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On July 29 2014 12:58 vult wrote:
Sad to hear, but Prime isn't exactly making things happen. Tt doesn't seem like it gets much market share increases from Prime and their influence, and maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money.
I hope this isn't the end of Prime. Iconic team, and in the wake of IM's demise, will be a huge blow to the Korean scene, even if they aren't really performing up to snuff. Prime spawned a lot of great players and has given chances to many young up-and-coming players as well. Let's hope they can get back on their feet and find some stability.
A contract is a contract. Unless there is something Prime didn't fulfill contractually, Tt can't just not pay based on their feelings because they think the team is 'undeserving'.
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United States1302 Posts
On July 29 2014 12:34 lichter wrote:
It's that time of the year again
lawl kespa jail cell xD xD xD
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On July 29 2014 13:46 EJK wrote:lawl kespa jail cell xD xD xD
WHERE IS BYUN?!
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Honestly though when is the last time you saw a Prime player using any TT equipment?
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 29 2014 13:58 Whiplash wrote:
Honestly though when is the last time you saw a Prime player using any TT equipment?
None of the players like to actually use the TT equipment. The equipment is pretty bad.
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I was thinking of getting a Prime Keyboard because they looked cool. Fuck all that now
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 29 2014 14:03 tomastaz wrote:
I was thinking of getting a Prime Keyboard because they looked cool. Fuck all that now
Saving e-sports 1 keyboard at a time 
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On July 29 2014 13:59 Chuddinater wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 13:58 Whiplash wrote:
Honestly though when is the last time you saw a Prime player using any TT equipment? None of the players like to actually use the TT equipment. The equipment is pretty bad.
Yeah, they seem to get terrible reviews on their equipment, most people only buy their stuff because of Artosis or teams like Prime. I hope Prime gets what they are owed.
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What is exacly TT esports? I mean this company isn't that big to simply do thing like that.. It could not be nail to the coffin for Prime, but TTe getting some bad rep right there... Also I can understand this step if the equipment is one big piece of garbage =)) l2make keyboards plz
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 29 2014 14:44 Pharaphobia wrote:
What is exacly TT esports? I mean this company isn't that big to simply do thing like that.. It could not be nail to the coffin for Prime, but TTe getting some bad rep right there... Also I can understand this step if the equipment is one big piece of garbage =)) l2make keyboards plz
From what I have heard they have done this before to other teams. The best way to help is to either email or tweet at them and tell them how you feel on the situation. Also don't buy their products and have others stop buying from them as well.
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United States1302 Posts
On July 29 2014 13:52 geokilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 13:46 EJK wrote:On July 29 2014 12:34 lichter wrote:
It's that time of the year again lawl kespa jail cell xD xD xD WHERE IS BYUN?!
ya! He used to stream a lot, did he retire?
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Speaking of broken promises from TTesports, did the Artosis keyboard ever come out? It seemed like it was being "designed" forever
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On July 29 2014 13:38 iS.zemotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 12:58 vult wrote:
Sad to hear, but Prime isn't exactly making things happen. Tt doesn't seem like it gets much market share increases from Prime and their influence, and maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money.
I hope this isn't the end of Prime. Iconic team, and in the wake of IM's demise, will be a huge blow to the Korean scene, even if they aren't really performing up to snuff. Prime spawned a lot of great players and has given chances to many young up-and-coming players as well. Let's hope they can get back on their feet and find some stability. A contract is a contract. Unless there is something Prime didn't fulfill contractually, Tt can't just not pay based on their feelings because they think the team is 'undeserving'.
If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money.
Also since the amount was not specified/highlighted, it is logical to assume it is a paltry sum. All this announcement does is put out how desperate Prime is for money, they should of just continued privately.
On July 29 2014 15:10 Holdenintherye wrote:
Speaking of broken promises from TTesports, did the Artosis keyboard ever come out? It seemed like it was being "designed" forever
Most likely scrapped. Probably a good business decision though (especially now)
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 29 2014 15:19 Agh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 13:38 iS.zemotion wrote:On July 29 2014 12:58 vult wrote:
Sad to hear, but Prime isn't exactly making things happen. Tt doesn't seem like it gets much market share increases from Prime and their influence, and maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money.
I hope this isn't the end of Prime. Iconic team, and in the wake of IM's demise, will be a huge blow to the Korean scene, even if they aren't really performing up to snuff. Prime spawned a lot of great players and has given chances to many young up-and-coming players as well. Let's hope they can get back on their feet and find some stability. A contract is a contract. Unless there is something Prime didn't fulfill contractually, Tt can't just not pay based on their feelings because they think the team is 'undeserving'. If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money. Also since the amount was not specified/highlighted, it is logical to assume it is a paltry sum. All this announcement does is put out how desperate Prime is for money, they should of just continued privately. Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 15:10 Holdenintherye wrote:
Speaking of broken promises from TTesports, did the Artosis keyboard ever come out? It seemed like it was being "designed" forever Most likely scrapped. Probably a good business decision though (especially now)
It was being handled privately for some time. No part of the contract stated anything regarding content being created by Prime independently. Prime did everything they were asked to and the decision to not pay is because someone at TT esports did not continue to do his job. TT esports employees messed up and Prime is getting punished.
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On July 29 2014 15:19 Agh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 13:38 iS.zemotion wrote:On July 29 2014 12:58 vult wrote:
Sad to hear, but Prime isn't exactly making things happen. Tt doesn't seem like it gets much market share increases from Prime and their influence, and maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money.
I hope this isn't the end of Prime. Iconic team, and in the wake of IM's demise, will be a huge blow to the Korean scene, even if they aren't really performing up to snuff. Prime spawned a lot of great players and has given chances to many young up-and-coming players as well. Let's hope they can get back on their feet and find some stability. A contract is a contract. Unless there is something Prime didn't fulfill contractually, Tt can't just not pay based on their feelings because they think the team is 'undeserving'. If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money. Also since the amount was not specified/highlighted, it is logical to assume it is a paltry sum. All this announcement does is put out how desperate Prime is for money, they should of just continued privately.
I was responding to vult's comment of "maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money." Not jumping to sides. If Prime didn't fulfill whatever part of their agreement, then of course it's their breach. A contract goes both ways.
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On July 29 2014 16:04 iS.zemotion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 15:19 Agh wrote:On July 29 2014 13:38 iS.zemotion wrote:On July 29 2014 12:58 vult wrote:
Sad to hear, but Prime isn't exactly making things happen. Tt doesn't seem like it gets much market share increases from Prime and their influence, and maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money.
I hope this isn't the end of Prime. Iconic team, and in the wake of IM's demise, will be a huge blow to the Korean scene, even if they aren't really performing up to snuff. Prime spawned a lot of great players and has given chances to many young up-and-coming players as well. Let's hope they can get back on their feet and find some stability. A contract is a contract. Unless there is something Prime didn't fulfill contractually, Tt can't just not pay based on their feelings because they think the team is 'undeserving'. If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money. Also since the amount was not specified/highlighted, it is logical to assume it is a paltry sum. All this announcement does is put out how desperate Prime is for money, they should of just continued privately. I was responding to vult's comment of "maybe they think that Prime is undeserving of endorsement money." Not jumping to sides. If Prime didn't fulfill whatever part of their agreement, then of course it's their breach. A contract goes both ways.
I know exactly what you were responding to. There is no reason to be defensive.
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Belgica34432 Posts
Please Kespa, lay down the law
Or I will
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Well, Dont know the full story so I wont take sides, but I do belive eSports is a rather delicate bussiness and very few companies are fully aware of what they are actually sponsoring.
The ads and visibility very rarely translate into increased sales as you need your team/player to be constantly visible in order to even show your products.
Note that while we can all guess that a company has enought cash to easy sponsor a team or even 5, the guy who gave the Idea in the first place has to bring results, or they will shut it themselves just to not lose their job.
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On July 29 2014 15:19 Agh wrote:
If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money.
if this is true then prime is being kinda dishonest by saying "agreed upon money has been withheld" b/c obviously if there is a contract provision to revoke the money you cant call it "agreed upon money".... so either they are getting fucked or they are just starting a shady business feud to stir up drama and support in the scene...
no idea which one, could be either as far as im concerned, thats how things seem to go in e sports
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Korea (South)169 Posts
On July 29 2014 16:34 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2014 15:19 Agh wrote:
If only people didn't read something and immediately jump on the side of it without taking into consideration the other side. Most likely some content creation quota wasn't upheld so they decided to revoke the money. if this is true then prime is being kinda dishonest by saying "agreed upon money has been withheld" b/c obviously if there is a contract provision to revoke the money you cant call it "agreed upon money".... so either they are getting fucked or they are just starting a shady business feud to stir up drama and support in the scene... no idea which one, could be either as far as im concerned, thats how things seem to go in e sports
Have read through the contract and spoken with TT esports directly. There is nothing in the contract that states a content quota. Prime has done nothing to violate the contract and TT esports just doesn't want to pay them money.
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