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Mvp, Trap and Squirtle leave IM - Page 12

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DeadCell
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada256 Posts
July 24 2014 03:23 GMT
#221
Please don't retire MVP.. T.T
If it comes down to you or them, send flowers.
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
July 24 2014 05:05 GMT
#222
Someday when gaming gets large enough will see this less often, but until then it's just part of the landscape sadly. IM sure had a good run while it lasted that's for sure.
Twitter: @GoForNerski /// Youtube: Youtube.com/nerskisc
HeyImFinn
Profile Joined September 2011
United States250 Posts
July 24 2014 07:31 GMT
#223
I wonder what'll happen if/when OGN picks up Brood War again.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
July 24 2014 08:14 GMT
#224
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 24 2014 08:35 GMT
#225
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 24 2014 08:47 GMT
#226
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.


Pretty sure it him alluding to Tasteless casts when Mvp is involved, referring to him as the greatest RTS player of all time.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-24 08:56:40
July 24 2014 08:54 GMT
#227
whoaaaaaa. RIP IM, but to be fair, They kinda lost a bit of their essence when YoDa, First and LosirA went, then when NesTea left, Mvp was all that held me on...

I hope Nestea and Mvp can join the same team for old time sake.

On July 24 2014 17:47 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.


Pretty sure it him alluding to Tasteless casts when Mvp is involved, referring to him as the greatest RTS player of all time.


I think that was Innovation. The Bonjourno of all bonjournos.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
July 24 2014 09:04 GMT
#228
GL to IM in the future. Weird that they will most likey be leaving the scene, or at least be severly diminished!
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
July 24 2014 14:38 GMT
#229
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 24 2014 14:53 GMT
#230
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 24 2014 15:04 GMT
#231
On July 24 2014 23:53 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.


Mvp is no bonjwa, but you're wrong. Mvp won so much because he's fucking brilliant. Even today, I'd wager Mvp in terms of decisions is top-tier. The guy knows how to plan a series out.

It isn't Kespa that accounted for Mvp's drop in results. He was already withering away on a mechanical level long before they made the transition.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 24 2014 15:08 GMT
#232
On July 24 2014 23:53 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.

You know, nothing besides go 5-5 in semifinals across two premier tournaments against the best kespa players a few months to a year after the switch. And nearly win one of those tournaments. And, you know, he totally obliterated everyone at tournaments where there were no kespa players. -.-
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 24 2014 15:10 GMT
#233
Sad day....
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12680 Posts
July 24 2014 15:13 GMT
#234
On July 24 2014 23:53 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.

...lol
it's almost like you have no idea how much he innovated the matchups.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#235
On July 25 2014 00:08 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:53 Xiphos wrote:
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.

You know, nothing besides go 5-5 in semifinals across two premier tournaments against the best kespa players a few months to a year after the switch. And nearly win one of those tournaments. And, you know, he totally obliterated everyone at tournaments where there were no kespa players. -.-

Outside of all that I just hope he doesn't retire. I remember reading about him tell his story earlier on in SC2's life about how is family was poor, how he used to be very sick, and how SC2 really gave him a light in the darkness. I just hope that light hasn't been eclipsed, or if it has that he has a solid next step (then again this is MVP and the guy is tactically incredible).
User was warned for too many mimes.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
July 24 2014 15:49 GMT
#236
On July 24 2014 23:53 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 23:38 nimdil wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.

He's not far from that. He achieved more in SC2 than anyone so in a way he is like Flash. But there's no comparing these two players.


No he isn't "like" Flash. Mvp was the best Brood War player to ever switch to SC2 (at that time) so that's why he have won so many. But after Kespa players made the switch, Mvp hasn't done shit.

Mvp's decline is more likely due to wrist and neck condition than anything.

When it began, he couldn't clip his own nails since his hands had no strength, and it only got worse after that. I have no idea why he continues to play games rather than heal at that point.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 24 2014 17:13 GMT
#237
I truly believe Mvp would be the indiscutible bonwja of starcraft 2 had he had't had (is this a correct phrase? lol) wirst and neck problems. Come on, look at all the things he did with all the problems he had.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
cythaze
Profile Joined June 2011
830 Posts
July 24 2014 18:08 GMT
#238
As someone who was rooting for Mvp´s opponents in his most important matches (Nestea at blizzcon, Squirtle in gsl finals), so you could say i am a non-believer or whatever, I think what Mvp has done in SC2 is pretty close to the level of dominance of Flash.

I´d rather compare him to Boxer anyway as both were just matchup-defining, creative killer machines that could/should have won so many more titles.
Earthwings
Profile Joined July 2014
1 Post
July 24 2014 19:11 GMT
#239
Well this team still has the most GSL wins. And will continue to have the most GSL wins in a very very very
*inhale* very long time.
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
July 24 2014 19:18 GMT
#240
On July 24 2014 17:35 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2014 17:14 SuperFanBoy wrote:
MVP greatest RTS player of all time. MVP > Flash + Jaedong + insertwhoever


Aerm, no, he's far from that.


MVP is 6 time GSL finalist and 4 time winner and is the greatest RTS player of all time.
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