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Top 50 streamers in June 2014

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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
July 01 2014 19:16 GMT
#1
Welcome this month's edition of the top 50 streamers list.

Due to ongoing exams, this month's edition is somewhat brief and hastily done. My apologies in advance for any errors or mistakes that find their way in here.

However, there's some good news, too! Finally, there is proper azubu.tv integration. Rejoice! That means that a lot of big names are back in the lists. Assuming they've got enough viewers, that is.

Table of contents
  • Huh? What's this?
  • Top 50 streamers in June 2014
    • Sorted by avg. viewer
    • Sorted by avg. viewer * hours streamed
    • Stray observations and musings
  • The big picture
  • WCS/GSL
  • Proleague
  • Older entries


Huh? What's this?

For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data (viewers, game, events, etc.) from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (those that you can in the sidebar to your right) and use that data to produce the pretty tables and graphs you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, streams of people playing games of Starcraft 2) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So, for instance when CatZ is streaming Dota2, it will not be taken into account.

The data I gather is then turned into the tables you see below. One is sorted by the average viewers, the other is sorted by the average viewers times the hours streamed. The latter table favors those that stream a lot, while the former table favors popular streamers regardless of how much they stream. Either ranking has its advantages and disadvantages, and thus I present both.

For either table, I have a minimum required stream time of 5 hours to be included in the list.

The list


Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below.
The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.

Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.

Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:

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(HTML version here)


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(HTML version here)


Stray observations and musings

  • Stephano has the most average viewers. What else is new?
  • And Winter is the number one in the viewers*hours category again as well. However, this marks the first month in a long time in which his rise in viewership has finally stopped. He also streamed considerably less last month, but since Destiny also streamed less, he remains #1. For now.
  • Speaking of which, in last month's thread there was some discussion about viewbotting, including accusations against Winter. He said that he was viewbotted by others a few times (gaining +1000 viewers for a few hours), but never initiated it. A cursory glance at my data supported his claim of isolated, brief incidents, but of course that does not prove anything. Anyhow, the reason I'm mentioning this is because I found some peculiar numbers while compiling this month's list. Some streamers who usually average <50 viewers suddenly got far more viewers than that for a few hours on the 6th. Up to 70.000 more, to be precise. Just like that, 70.000 viewers within 30 minutes, and then 2 hours later they were back to 50. A very blatant sign of viewbotting, and more than likely not initiated by the streamers themselves. I had to purge those numbers from the database or those streamers would've "made" it to this month's list. So, yes, viewbotting is very real, and while I can easily detect and deal with blatant cases like these, the more subtle cases will go unnoticed by me. There's nothing I can do about that, unfortunately.
  • As mentioned above, azubu.tv numbers are finally part of my database. That's good. As we can see, the azubu.tv streamers barely made an impact on the list. That's bad. Maybe their viewership will come closer to twitch's over time.
  • If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.


The big picture


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(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)

Note that these are player streams only.

Player stream viewers are down again a bit. Big events like Dreamhack, MLG and HomestoryCup most likely played a big role in that.

Overall stream views


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(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)


This graph does not include MLG!

I said I would most likely retire this graph once MLG shows up, and I still plan on doing that. However, I've included it this time just to show that, even despite MLG not being part of the graph (due to unavailable viewer numbers), overall SC2 viewer numbers have gone up in the last month. With MLG, we can assume that the bar would be a good bit larger still. We're not dead yet!

WCS/GSL


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The WCS numbers have been bigger once, but they're still not all that bad.

Proleague & ATC


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That's all for this month. Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!

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iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 01 2014 19:26 GMT
#2
I streamed so little this month 3 weeks abroad for gigs will do that. Hope to improve in July!
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
July 01 2014 19:35 GMT
#3
MMA needs to stream moar <3, though the rarity arguably boosts the viewer count.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 19:46:29
July 01 2014 19:46 GMT
#4
Just a small correction, Kas is on Cascade now not Empire
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
WinterStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2012
United States109 Posts
July 01 2014 21:28 GMT
#5
ty conti!!, have several sources with info would like to corroborate in the long term about viewers and everythingi alike
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
July 02 2014 21:07 GMT
#6
Gratz to Lowko for finally hitting top 50!
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
July 02 2014 21:12 GMT
#7
Also Revival is on CM Storm, not EG.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
July 02 2014 21:19 GMT
#8
On July 02 2014 04:46 AWalker9 wrote:
Just a small correction, Kas is on Cascade now not Empire

On July 03 2014 06:12 R1CH wrote:
Also Revival is on CM Storm, not EG.

Thank you both, fixed for next time.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
July 02 2014 21:25 GMT
#9
Good job as always putting all this numbers for us.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 02 2014 21:30 GMT
#10
Guessed that player stream viewership would take a hit this month due to a few big weekend events plus the continuation of WCS. Not surprise, although still a little disappointed about how underrated some amazing players are when it comes to viewership
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 21:33:23
July 02 2014 21:31 GMT
#11
So few top level koreans streaming, I'm glad we have Supernova now!

Would be nice to see what streaming platform the different streamers are using.

Keep up the good work, it's appreciated!

edit: Also big props to Neuroswarm, streaming 366 hours with 37 average viewers. Will check the stream out for sure!
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Androxide
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada340 Posts
July 02 2014 21:31 GMT
#12
Clarity Gaming disbanded so KilleR no longer plays for them
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bosshd
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
Belgium72 Posts
July 02 2014 21:33 GMT
#13
ok guys if i go online next time all follow me bosshd is my twitch gogo <3
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
July 02 2014 21:35 GMT
#14
Very low numbers for individual streamers.
I am not good with quotes
Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
July 02 2014 22:00 GMT
#15
I can't watch Demu anymore because he streams when I'm sleeping now
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Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
July 02 2014 22:02 GMT
#16
wow the viewer numbers are getting lower and lower
i wish we would have more shows like unfiltered or meta
and btw am i the only one who misses the show "The Pulse" .. it was just awesome
Is this real Life? No, it's StartaleLife!!!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
July 03 2014 00:20 GMT
#17
On July 03 2014 07:02 Rikudou wrote:
wow the viewer numbers are getting lower and lower
i wish we would have more shows like unfiltered or meta
and btw am i the only one who misses the show "The Pulse" .. it was just awesome


A show about sc2 strategies or about the scene/tournament results ?
http://twitch.tv/desrowfighting http://twitter.com/desrowfighting http://facebook.com/desrowfighting
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 01:10:45
July 03 2014 01:09 GMT
#18
Sad to these these numbers when a year to two years ago top streamers had 6k+ viewers average. Had people like IdrA and stephano pulling in 9-10k average.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 03 2014 01:37 GMT
#19
On July 03 2014 09:20 desRow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 07:02 Rikudou wrote:
wow the viewer numbers are getting lower and lower
i wish we would have more shows like unfiltered or meta
and btw am i the only one who misses the show "The Pulse" .. it was just awesome


A show about sc2 strategies or about the scene/tournament results ?


I do tournament recaps after big weekends where I talk about the tournament and recommend VODs that I found to be entertaining. My channel is quite small, but I still get decent views (compared to my regular content. That to me suggests that the niche is there for someone to really step up into this and talk about tournament results and suggest awesome replays.

Get at it desRow! And let me know if you want someone to chat with when you do it =P
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
July 03 2014 02:55 GMT
#20
Come on guys. Proleague is the best format in Pro Starcraft IMO, but fans seem to prefer the individual leagues by a wide margin. I blame Blizzard. They only promote WCS. They should be putting thier muscle into promoting teams and team competition. That's how to keep fans invested long term. Players/games come and go. Teams stick around.
dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
July 03 2014 03:48 GMT
#21
I like the young players coming up. Keep working hard Winter, hopefully parlay this into some tournament success? Also, sorry, I'm sure everyone cooler than me knows, but what was the reason for Grubby's absence? Sabbatical?
"The only way to grow E-Sports is to tell the truth." -Richard Lewis
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
July 03 2014 10:03 GMT
#22
dang neuroswarm going hard stilllllll
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 03 2014 14:17 GMT
#23
On July 03 2014 11:55 sc2isnotdying wrote:
Come on guys. Proleague is the best format in Pro Starcraft IMO, but fans seem to prefer the individual leagues by a wide margin. I blame Blizzard. They only promote WCS. They should be putting thier muscle into promoting teams and team competition. That's how to keep fans invested long term. Players/games come and go. Teams stick around.

There was the biggest issue during WoL time, basically no reasonable teamleague. thats why many many people are still not awared enough that teamleagues are great in sc2. About viewers: How many people can watch during work? Proleagues is always ~11AM in EU.

What are individual leagues?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
AxCranK
Profile Joined October 2011
United States51 Posts
July 03 2014 14:27 GMT
#24
86 hours :O
ProgamerHello
klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
July 03 2014 19:48 GMT
#25
Whatever happened to ATC? Are the finals happening any time soon?
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
July 03 2014 20:12 GMT
#26
On July 04 2014 04:48 klipik12 wrote:
Whatever happened to ATC? Are the finals happening any time soon?

End of this month is the offline final. We will see some online matches before.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
July 03 2014 20:25 GMT
#27
I like that the Top 5 streamers (avg viewer * hours played) are all Teamless.
i_imperator
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Ireland94 Posts
July 04 2014 13:55 GMT
#28
We had a couple of people come back last month, It was great seeing some people come back to streaming such as demuslim and MMA, the MMA streams were great to watch! And remember Demuslim didnt have access to streaming for quite a while this year.
myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
July 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#29
Kas is playing for Cascade not Empire anymore
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 04 2014 14:32 GMT
#30
Is sc2 the Blizzard game with the less viewers on players stream overall ?
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
July 04 2014 22:35 GMT
#31
Destiny rekt by winter.
When is the showmatch scheduled?
England will fight to the last American
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 04 2014 22:36 GMT
#32
On July 04 2014 23:32 Noocta wrote:
Is sc2 the Blizzard game with the less viewers on players stream overall ?


WoW, Diablo, and SC2 all pale in comparison to Hearthstone, but I think SC2 is the most consistently healthy numbers-wise of those three.
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Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
July 07 2014 16:52 GMT
#33
On July 05 2014 07:36 Holytornados wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2014 23:32 Noocta wrote:
Is sc2 the Blizzard game with the less viewers on players stream overall ?


WoW, Diablo, and SC2 all pale in comparison to Hearthstone, but I think SC2 is the most consistently healthy numbers-wise of those three.


really? Hearthstone blows SC2 out of the water...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46405 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-08 01:44:26
July 08 2014 01:42 GMT
#34
On July 08 2014 01:52 Eggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2014 07:36 Holytornados wrote:
On July 04 2014 23:32 Noocta wrote:
Is sc2 the Blizzard game with the less viewers on players stream overall ?


WoW, Diablo, and SC2 all pale in comparison to Hearthstone, but I think SC2 is the most consistently healthy numbers-wise of those three.


really? Hearthstone blows SC2 out of the water...


Either I'm misreading what he wrote or you are o.O
WoW, Diablo, and SC2 are "those three"...

Anyways, thanks for the usual data, Conti Great stuff as always ^^
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
July 08 2014 02:37 GMT
#35
I really wonder how guys like Protech and PainUser can afford to exist.
I respect their choices but I have no idea how they manage to make ends meet.

I must say that I am impressed!
Their respective fanbases must be very loyal
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46405 Posts
July 08 2014 15:15 GMT
#36
I'd imagine that streaming isn't their only source of income, and instead is a supplement to another, better-paying job. That being said, I don't know how much money they make streaming (or doing anything else), nor do I know their financial situations. I've just heard from many top streamers in the community that streaming is usually not a financially stable source of income on its own.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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