EPTMajOr won't forfeit WCS Ro16 and this thread was terrible…
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johnbongham
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote: Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked. Oh my goodness thank the lord we might see this actually cool off. | ||
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JohnChoi
1773 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:47 ProBot wrote: You do realize the prices listed aren't after tax, airport fee's and are 1 way ....... Don't try and chastise someone using shit information. Just makes you look like a dumbass. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451890-major-to-forfeit-wcs-ro16-participation?page=3#57 lol  | ||
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SirPinky
United States525 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:42 TotalBiscuit wrote: And now the reality. Mike Morhaime really loves Starcraft, even if SC2 is the red-headed stepchild of Blizzard (ie. the game that isn't making them any money). He as CEO, has the clout to make WCS happen. Where the expense is written off doesn't matter. Calling something a "marketing expense" does not magically make it cost no dollars, nor does it guarantee a profit. WCS is of course just a fraction of Blizzards total outgoing costs. The CEO has to answer to the board of directors and the shareholders. And from a business perspective, there is a difference between donations and marketing: Marketing needs to have justification, risk management and projected ROI. Donations, however, do not. They are typically made to inflate public image and written off differently from a tax perspective. "The reality" is being CEO does not remove accountability to people that have equity in a company. Sorry but "liking" something does not mean you can section out millions of dollars on a budget pro forma basis without good reason. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:50 TotalBiscuit wrote: They "made" money on SC2. They're certainly not making it now. WCS is costing them a lot of money, development of LoTV is costing them a lot of money and HotS sales have declined since the games' been out for over a year. WCS is almost certainly in the red and always will be. More so than LCS for Riot, who at least have a way of constantly getting money out of their players since it's a F2P game with microtransactions. Even if I wanted to give Blizzard more money, there's no actual way to do it right now with SC2. Makes sense. I'm always baffled why Blizzard does so little to add extra monetization initiatives to SC2. For WoW they seem to do that just fine. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:45 mikumegurine wrote: WCS itself no profit but doesnt WCS = SC2 viewers, players, more potential customers of LotV? not to mention keeping the Blizzard name brand out there So what happens when LotV is released? There is no monetary incentive in the long run for Blizzard to give Sc2 more than token support. No way in hell that the sales of LotV will compensate for what they've spent on WCS so far. They have no viable ways to monetize the product past LotV, and even that will probably barely cover that year's WCS, it that. Sc2 is a passion project, not a healthy marketing tool. If all they wanted to do was keep their brand name out there, they could mass produce cell phone games with no depth or creative integrity, They actually like the games they make, even if myself and many others sometimes(often) disagree vehemently about aspects of them. More credit to them for it. | ||
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DjKniteX
United States244 Posts
Just deduct out of the prize. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16124 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:52 Thalandros wrote: Blizzcon is all about hype, revealing, and promotion. promotion promotion promotion. How many times have they revealed (and got us excited about) GIGANTIC things? Game expansions (MoP if I remember correctly being the last one) A lot of HearthStone stuff, Heart of the Swarm stuff and entire games like Heroes of the Storm. Seriously. Blizzcon is a big goldmine in terms of promotion and getting their products in the spotlight. There are much less expensive ways of promoting their games and putting out news about upcoming stuff than Blizzcon. Have you ever actually been to Blizzcon? It's MASSIVE! It must cost them a fucking fortune to do it. Promotional Goldmine or not, they don't need to go as all out as they do every year. They do that for the fanbase, it's hard to really argue otherwise once you've actually been there. | ||
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JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
I know this is MajOr, he's been around. But what message does this send to all the other would-be-MajOr's, up and comer players from latin america. "Sorry we can give these koreans $1000, and but you only get $500 because you're actually from the region." (even if that region includes both of the american continents. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote: Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked. Sorry for the confusion  dawwww you should have waited a few hours stating this, this thread is epic. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote: Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked. Sorry for the confusion | ||
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Rho_
United States971 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:52 johnbongham wrote: Can we get just ONE foreign terran who doesnt completely suck as a player or as a person? PLEASE. Thank you. QXC? | ||
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TmzZ666
Poland144 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:54 JabuSeika wrote: I expected Blizzard to support NA players a bit more in an NA tournament. I know this is MajOr, he's been around. But what message does this send to all the other would-be-MajOr's, up and comer players from latin america. "Sorry we can give these koreans $1000, and but you only get $500 because you're actually from the region." (even if that region includes both of the american continents. +1 and yes you did it or should i say we did it | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote: Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked. Sorry for the confusion I almost regret he didn't forfeit... Now he even win 500$ for bitching and being a dick toward everyone. | ||
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PDizzle
Denmark1754 Posts
lol | ||
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URLateral
275 Posts
Bunny is by far the best foriegn terran | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:54 JabuSeika wrote: I expected Blizzard to support NA players a bit more in an NA tournament. I know this is MajOr, he's been around. But what message does this send to all the other would-be-MajOr's, up and comer players from latin america. "Sorry we can give these koreans $1000, and but you only get $500 because you're actually from the region." (even if that region includes both of the american continents. This is not free money they are being given. They get their travel paid, up to a certain amount. Flying within America costs far less than flying from Korea to America. This is not bonus cash you get, it is a plane ticket that has a limit on how expensive it can be because that's common sense. Also lol at the only reason this happened being that MajOr jumped the gun, didn't read the documentation and freaked out on Twitter after an admin made a mistake. #ESPAHTS | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
Markus is a nice guy too. | ||
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McRatyn
Poland901 Posts
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote: Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked. Sorry for the confusion Facepalm moment, someone was not aware of the rules before crying on social media, and maybe someone doesn't have the ruleset distribution well in place. I'm glad I had fun while it lasted thanks TL | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
Happy, Bunny, Kas, Dayshi, LucifroN in his prime, ThorZaIN in his prime... | ||
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