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MajOr won't forfeit WCS Ro16 and this thread was terrible…

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TmzZ666
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland144 Posts
June 04 2014 19:59 GMT
#301
On June 05 2014 04:58 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 04:55 Rho_ wrote:
On June 05 2014 04:52 johnbongham wrote:
Can we get just ONE foreign terran who doesnt completely suck as a player or as a person? PLEASE. Thank you.


QXC?

Happy, Bunny, Kas, Dayshi, LucifroN in his prime, ThorZaIN in his prime...


oh sorry i thought this is wcs am thread.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16055 Posts
June 04 2014 19:59 GMT
#302
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote:
Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked.

Sorry for the confusion



GG NO RE

LOL.

Glad that's all figured out.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#303
On June 05 2014 04:59 TmzZ666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 04:58 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2014 04:55 Rho_ wrote:
On June 05 2014 04:52 johnbongham wrote:
Can we get just ONE foreign terran who doesnt completely suck as a player or as a person? PLEASE. Thank you.


QXC?

Happy, Bunny, Kas, Dayshi, LucifroN in his prime, ThorZaIN in his prime...


oh sorry i thought this is wcs am thread.

On June 05 2014 04:52 johnbongham wrote:
Can we get just ONE foreign terran who doesnt completely suck as a player or as a person? PLEASE. Thank you.

JabuSeika
Profile Joined February 2014
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 20:03:59
June 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#304
On June 05 2014 04:51 Kennigit wrote:
Looks like there was some confusion on both the Admin side and on Major's. The WCS player travel policy states that Latin American countries have up to 1000$ travel stipend. So that will cover Juan. Our US guys are working with him now to get travel booked.

Sorry for the confusion



I missed your post among all the drama.

Thanks for clarifying this, and good luck to MajOr.

On June 05 2014 04:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:

Also lol at the only reason this happened being that MajOr jumped the gun, didn't read the documentation and freaked out on Twitter after an admin made a mistake.

#ESPAHTS


Someone jumped the gun, but someone also provided MajOr with wrong information.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
June 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#305
ROFL THAT TITLE CHANGE.
B-rye88
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada168 Posts
June 04 2014 20:01 GMT
#306
- WCS is almost assuredly included in marketing & promotions expense on Blizzard P&L.
- WCS, from an annual P&L standpoint, almost assuredly is a net loss project

From a marketing standpoint, it is unlikely that WCS would favourably compare to other marketing tools in terms of ROI from a narrow point of view such as looking at additional revenue from HOTS / LOTV sales.

What is DOES do is allow Blizzard to retain market share and image in a potentially high-growth area, that being e-sports. There is no telling what the future holds in store for this niche, and continually positioning themselves as a supporter and provider of e-sports content in it's fledgling state may (or may not) pay huge dividends in the future.

It's a qualitatively wise business move that may or may not transition into a quantifiable return later on.

Plus, they are an organization of people who live and breathe games; there is no question that they also have some altruistic motive towards giving their consumers a venue to play and celebrate the game they developed.
ProBot
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada170 Posts
June 04 2014 20:02 GMT
#307
On June 05 2014 04:53 JohnChoi wrote:
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On June 05 2014 04:47 ProBot wrote:
On June 05 2014 02:01 digmouse wrote:
On June 05 2014 01:55 sharkie wrote:
Sorry, but this just sucks by blizzard...
you cant just say all NA players get 500 and all non NA get 1k - thats unprofessional

I am sure there are places in NA where it costs more than 500 to go to LA...

God damn it paying more for ppl flying from the other globe is "unprofessional"? There is a common sense called "estimated cost" when running business and doing cost plans. Paying 1000$ for Korea and China is not enough and 500$ for Mexico is more than enough. In the end Koreans and Chinese end up paying more out of their/their team's own.

http://www.orbitz.com/flights/from-Mexico_City-to-Los_Angeles.o30682.d4309/
http://flights.expedia.com/flights-from-mexico-city-to-los-angeles-mex-to-lax/
Just see those numbers yourselves jesus.


You do realize the prices listed aren't after tax, airport fee's and are 1 way ....... Don't try and chastise someone using shit information. Just makes you look like a dumbass.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/451890-major-to-forfeit-wcs-ro16-participation?page=3#57
lol


:D I'm not disagreeing that it's not possible to get flights within $500 .... dude just used shit examples.
KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
June 04 2014 20:02 GMT
#308
MajOr, fuck, grow a pair dude.
Jinro, Polt, Bomber, ForGG, MajOr, Flash, Maru. Terran Fighting...
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18355 Posts
June 04 2014 20:03 GMT
#309
so major was actually the one who put an end to this useless discussion between TB and major

props to major, he is the smarter man!
ECA.BruTATroN
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States282 Posts
June 04 2014 20:03 GMT
#310
This just occupied an hour of work for me The TB and Major comments are very amusing. And i used to be a Major fan but now i see why he is team less and can't afford a trip to the biggest tournament of his career.
http://www.twitch.tv/brutatron
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#311
cool
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 20:05:20
June 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#312
hmm did Major outburst on twitter actually cause the WCS admin to realize mistake that it is in fact $1000 to Latin America players?
ProxyKite
Profile Joined July 2011
United States40 Posts
June 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#313
If MajOr was one of the best players in the world, he probably wouldn't be whining about such a small fee if he has a high chance of making it to the finals. And even then, the flight prices as shown by this generous thread has debunked the $500+ myth. Acting like you deserve more makes you look unprofessional. Best of luck to you mate. I used to be fan, but now you've opened my eyes.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 04 2014 20:04 GMT
#314
On June 05 2014 05:03 sharkie wrote:
so major was actually the one who put an end to this useless discussion between TB and major

props to major, he is the smarter man!

Boring, I wanted a 20 page slapfight extravaganza.
Glorious SEA doto
Prime Directive
Profile Joined December 2011
United States186 Posts
June 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#315
So we got some drama and MajOr lost a bunch of fans. Fun thread indeed.
ROOTdrewbie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1392 Posts
June 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#316
On June 05 2014 04:59 TmzZ666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2014 04:58 Xoronius wrote:
On June 05 2014 04:55 Rho_ wrote:
On June 05 2014 04:52 johnbongham wrote:
Can we get just ONE foreign terran who doesnt completely suck as a player or as a person? PLEASE. Thank you.


QXC?

Happy, Bunny, Kas, Dayshi, LucifroN in his prime, ThorZaIN in his prime...


oh sorry i thought this is wcs am thread.

neeb / qxc / masa / illusion / select /
www.root-gaming.com
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-04 20:08:20
June 04 2014 20:05 GMT
#317
Nevermind, didn't read the whole conversation.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
June 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#318
btw the whole argument of koreans getting 1000$ is so invalid, it's 1.5k to fly from korea to LA lol, they still have to spend more money from their pocket than anybody from south america
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
June 04 2014 20:06 GMT
#319
On June 05 2014 02:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On June 05 2014 02:45 shid0x wrote:
Wouldn't a real soft region block be 1000 dollars for players on the american continent and 500 dollars for asians ?
Blizzard logic never stops amazing me.


Blizzards logic is that punishing the better players and their teams is a bad idea.

I tend to agree with them. There is no point in slamming the gate after the horses have long since bolted. Americans are not good enough to compete en-masse in WCS NA as it currently stands and those that did earn their spots should not be punished for that. A proper NA league should be established for NA players but good luck finding anyone willing to run it. The viewership isn't there and the players keep forfeiting whenever one of us tries to set something like that up, so wtf. The prevailing opinion is that it's a lost cause and it's hard to disagree with that right now.

Show nested quote +
And to be quite honest, if the system allows Korean players to qualify, the system shouldn't screw them over on travel costs right after. Think how much money a team like Axiom or Liquid would spend to send their players to WCS AM without this help.


Flight costs last year were upwards of $15,000 for WCS America alone. To call it crippling would be an understatement.

Like my friend used to say, in the end it's the airlines who wins x). On principle I don't like paying flights, living closer to the tournament should give you financial advantage and you can tak the money and put it into the prize pool. Other than that it makes sense because tournament winnings travel slowly and this is a buffer for the players. In this case I suspect he didn't RTFM, although changes like that mid year are a bit annoying.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
shrewm
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany38 Posts
June 04 2014 20:07 GMT
#320
On June 05 2014 05:01 DinosaurJones wrote:
ROFL THAT TITLE CHANGE.

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