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WCS AM S2 2014 Ro32 Groups Announced - Page 3

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Radicalness
Profile Joined September 2011
United States271 Posts
May 13 2014 01:10 GMT
#41
On May 13 2014 09:18 nichan wrote:
this should be called WCS Korea code B


Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 01:32:35
May 13 2014 01:32 GMT
#42
On May 13 2014 10:10 Radicalness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:18 nichan wrote:
this should be called WCS Korea code B


Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.


"Could" is key word and it's not like Flash, TY, RorO, Curious and so on are B level Koreans. Or, at least it's bad to be a B-level Korean.

You never know how will HerO or Bomber perform, JD won't even pass Code A most likely, TaeJa has wrist issues and Polt is only one who might be lock for Code S in decent conditions from all 5.
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smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
May 13 2014 02:02 GMT
#43
Oh god poor HuK...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 13 2014 02:03 GMT
#44
On May 13 2014 11:02 smashlloyd20 wrote:
Oh god poor HuK...

Tough group but he has a really solid shot with PvP imo
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
May 13 2014 02:06 GMT
#45
On May 13 2014 10:10 Radicalness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 09:18 nichan wrote:
this should be called WCS Korea code B


Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.


I think he meant the overall skill level of 32 players is Code B but of course HerO/Taeja/polt/bomber/jd will reach code A
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 13 2014 02:30 GMT
#46
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 13 2014 02:31 GMT
#47
On May 13 2014 11:30 lichter wrote:
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls

not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 02:41:06
May 13 2014 02:32 GMT
#48
Wow these are all insane groups. Major looks like he can finally make it to the Ro16. Looking forward to running some LR's!

Edit: Also Suppy's group sparks major hope! Let's go Suppy!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 13 2014 02:37 GMT
#49
On May 13 2014 11:31 Shellshock wrote:
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On May 13 2014 11:30 lichter wrote:
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls

not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses


He can still redeem himself by cannon rushing HerO twice and making Olli cry
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Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 13 2014 02:44 GMT
#50
On May 13 2014 08:09 Shellshock wrote:
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On May 13 2014 08:07 nerpderp wrote:
Excite! I love WCS AM for the sheer variety and diversity. Of course WCS EU has many nations as well, but since they all pretty much play on the EU server, there isn't the same diversity in the metagame. What will happen in WCS AM is anyone's guess, and that makes it exciting!

it's a shame we weren't able to get an SEA player outside of Taiwan in this season. It seems like it's been a while since we've had like an Australian or New Zealand player in premier.



iaguz was so close T_T
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
May 13 2014 02:46 GMT
#51
Group E might seem like the hardest group but still ezpz for THE DONG. Jaedong to win this season!
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
May 13 2014 02:50 GMT
#52
A: Revival & Hero
B: Bomber & Masa
C: Violet & QXC
D: Taeja & Check
E: Jaedong & Hyun
F: Alicia & Illusion
G: Polt & Major
H: Suppy & Arthur
Beakyboo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States485 Posts
May 13 2014 03:07 GMT
#53
Nearly every group looks pretty fun. I for one am pumped.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 13 2014 03:33 GMT
#54
On May 13 2014 11:37 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 11:31 Shellshock wrote:
On May 13 2014 11:30 lichter wrote:
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls

not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses


He can still redeem himself by cannon rushing HerO twice and making Olli cry

I can live with that compromise if he also proxy gates HuK
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
May 13 2014 03:50 GMT
#55
Proxy 2gate in HuK's natural and Rotti calls it "teabagging his natural" like I suggested
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sjssh
Profile Joined September 2013
3 Posts
May 13 2014 04:18 GMT
#56
For Chinese Players, Group D Top:hard to advance. 20% possible Group E Jim: anything would happen in this group, if Jim can keep his PvZ status in 2013, he can easily advance(4-1 Hyun,2-0 Jaedong). 70% possible Group F Toodming: tooming's zvz is awesome, so he can eaisly defeat hendralist, in his group. Only Alicia and Illusion would be his challenge. 50% possible Group G Macsed & Courage. I think only one of both can advance, Major is not so strong to prevent the two Chinese players. But Polt is so strong for them. Group H Xigua. I don't think he can advance, if this year is 2011, he will advance without any doubt.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 13 2014 05:29 GMT
#57
wow huk........... ._.'
please for the competition's sake huk fighting!!!
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Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
May 13 2014 06:13 GMT
#58
Although I'm rooting for the Axiom players to advance, they are an interesting bunch. Each of them now has the potential to either trounce their tougher opponents on a good day (Heart managed to knock out Taeja some season prior) or succumb to weaker ones on a bad day (Ryung...). As a team, they're sturdy enough to be consistent, but getting a deep run alone reveals this individual variance. Of the three here, Alicia has the easiest chance to advance, while both Heart and Crank will face stiff competition from Jaedong, Hyun, Bomber and Nestea in particular, though Jim and Masa are no pushovers either. Toodming, Illusion and Hendralisk may not be semifinalist regulars, but even they may steal first and second.

Also rooting for the Watermelon Zerg, even if the odds are against him, just because the name's awesome!
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3489 Posts
May 13 2014 06:45 GMT
#59
I cheer for Sen and the Chinese team!
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
May 13 2014 07:08 GMT
#60
Group A: This is actually one of the tougher groups to call. While Revival did make it to the Top 4 last season, he did so going 1-2 in matches (and 5-5 in maps) against Protoss. Of course, the one Toss he actually beat was...Huk. And Huk himself beat HerO in the Round of 32 in the last season, increasing his head-to-head record against this Korean Protoss to 3-1 all time in matches and 7-3 in maps. And, of course, we also have Pigbaby, who can do almost anything, and was credited by Huk as the creator of one of the builds he used to win SHOUTCraft America Winter.

Aligulac sez:
+ Show Spoiler +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HerO 58.61% 31.11% 27.50% 21.81% 19.57%
Revival 54.59% 27.65% 26.94% 23.76% 21.66%
HuK 43.68% 20.82% 22.86% 27.09% 29.23%
Pigbaby 43.11% 20.41% 22.70% 27.35% 29.54%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group B: Age is just a number, they say. Well, the Koreans in this group had better hope so, since their average age is 27 and Masa is in some pretty great form right now. Unfortunately for "America Holds!", Bomber has swiftly made this region his home, clearing out Jaedong, the legendary Has, and twice against groupmate Crank. One of the greatest unanswered questions is how much longer the IM non-player Nestea can hang on. With a far from convincing performance in his Challenger series against Iaguz, his chances to beat Masa are slim, let alone Bomber. This group will inevitable come down to Crank and Masa, a battle of two incredibly scrappy, daring players.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bomber 85.72% 58.03% 27.69% 8.64% 5.65%
CranK 45.41% 16.57% 28.84% 31.09% 23.50%
MaSa 42.08% 15.64% 26.44% 28.52% 29.40%
NesTea 26.79% 9.76% 17.03% 31.76% 41.46%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group C: Oz is a player who's had a serious problem with being recognized for all of his efforts. The man was runner-up last season, and yet he's still not a consensus pick to beat the three Americans in his group. It may be attributed to the unorthodox road of players he made it to the finals through - Nestea, Nestea, Heart, Puck, Arthur, Revival. All the same, there's very little reason to believe Oz won't clear this group out with flying colors. The opening match between Violet and Puck has all the makings of a great battle - Puck, the PvZ specialist who beat Hyun in a season where nobody else was able to do the same, and Violet, who broke 2 powerful Protosses in Seed and Huk on his way to his 4th place finish at Lone Star Clash. One of the deciding factors, in my personal opinion, is that Violet has shown a weakness to unorthodox play (see: his Challenger series against Top from last season), which Puck isn't afraid to break out as needed. You may have noticed a lack of Qxc in this group discussion, and that's not by mistake. He's just such a difficult player to predict, as he can crush skulls one day and break his mouse on stage the next. He's a wildcard whose Challenger match wasn't even played, so his results are anybody's guess.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Oz 66.64% 36.82% 29.81% 19.00% 14.36%
viOLet 60.92% 31.04% 29.89% 23.13% 15.95%
puCK 49.07% 22.26% 26.81% 28.26% 22.68%
qxc 23.37% 9.88% 13.49% 29.62% 47.01%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group D: I'm sure that all the contenders here are grateful to be drawn into a three-player group, but that doesn't mean any of them should assume advancement will come easily. Taeja, as everybody knows, is unbeatable when he's ready, and I don't think a trip to Challenger is on the agenda for his extended farewell tour. He's easily the favorite to win the group, leaving the battle to be between rising North America star Neeb and on-again, off-again star Check. Now, with how little Check's primary league, the TeSL, has Terrans in it, one would figure Check's ZvT wouldn't be the most impressive. Well, one would be wrong, as Check won his spot in Challenger in a thrilling, decisive victory against Ryung, who then promptly turned around and beat eventual champion Life at Dreamhack Bucharest. A quick note regarding the 3-player group comment: Top, being predictably aggressive, never beats anyone in Premier. He's a non-factor, always has been.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
               Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
------------------------------------------------------------
TaeJa 75.02% 43.08% 31.94% 16.03% 8.95%
Check 54.55% 26.11% 28.44% 25.18% 20.27%
Top 51.61% 23.93% 27.68% 28.17% 20.22%
neeb 18.82% 6.88% 11.94% 30.62% 50.56%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group E: Oh, come on now. Are you serious with this group? Hyun, the defending champion. Heart, the master of upsets. Jaedong, coming off a championship at Lone Star Clash. And Jim, the mysterious Chinese man-crusher. Where to begin? Well, Jim has lost to both Heart and Jaedong in WCS America before. Hyun has impeccable ZvZ, his only real Achilles heel being a Zerg who doesn't play in this region anymore. Jaedong took down Heart in Texas in convincing fashion. But really, no matter what the results are, people won't be surprised, but they will be disappointed that 2 great players got knocked out so incredibly early.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
HyuN 72.74% 38.76% 33.98% 16.72% 10.54%
Jaedong 70.13% 38.62% 31.50% 17.50% 12.37%
Jim 29.61% 11.67% 17.94% 33.63% 36.76%
Heart 27.53% 10.95% 16.58% 32.15% 40.33%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group F: Illusion is at his best against Protoss these days, showing amazing timings against JYP, Minigun before him, and a white-hot Astrea before him. Against Zerg, he hasn't played much in recorded matches in a while, the one exception being a 2-0 of Suppy on his way to qualify for MLG Anaheim. How will he do against the mysterious Chinese mind-breaker Toodming? Well, it's hard to say. Toodming has played against non-Chinese Terrans at almost no point, beating Masa and Drunkenboi and losing to Heart. The group's clear favorite, Alicia is one of those players who makes casters abuse the word "solid". He can beat you on 1 base, he can beat you on 4 bases. What he can't do, though, is get sent out in this season of ATC, playing only 3 of his team's 44 games so far, scoring a win against Stardust and losses to Kane and the 4th player in this group, a white-hot Canadian Zerg by the name of Hendralisk. Hendralisk has shown to be in top form in all of his matchups, suddenly becoming the ace for Complexity-Dignitas, four-killing powerhouse Axiom, and clean sweeping the most talented woman to ever play the game to claim a spot in Premier. This is one of the groups that can either be a nail-biter or a blowout. Either way, the games will be incredibly good.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Alicia 67.56% 38.01% 29.54% 18.15% 14.30%
hendralisk 49.33% 23.84% 25.49% 25.69% 24.98%
TooDming 43.10% 21.06% 22.04% 26.72% 30.18%
Illusion 40.01% 17.09% 22.93% 29.44% 30.55%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group G: Wait, this doesn't look quite right. This isn't how a group with Major is supposed to work in WCS America. The formula is clear, and it's been followed to a T for 3 straight seasons. Major gets the Korean Terran as his first opponent, beats them handily, faces a Protoss in the Winners Match, gets smacked down, then rematches the Korean Terran again in the final decider match and loses, being knocked down to Challenger where he quickly fights his way right back. This isn't how it works. I blame ESL's group selection. The Protoss is supposed to be in the Winners Match, Major is supposed to be playing against Polt first (who he has beaten before, incidentally, at an IEM qualifier). This variation on the formula will be quite interesting. If I were to describe Macsed's PvT in a word, it would be "infrequent". Again, China doesn't have a lot in terms of Terrans, and that puts a real dent in the chances of Macsed and Courage, though the latter did manage to qualify this season through a 3-0 sweep of a retiring TheSTC. I don't have to say anything about Polt - barring another power outage in Georgia, the Winter Soldier is gonna be clearing out whoever the hell stands in his way.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
Polt 91.20% 64.65% 26.55% 5.86% 2.94%
MajOr 59.85% 22.01% 37.84% 26.01% 14.14%
MacSed 39.15% 9.80% 29.35% 43.62% 17.23%
Courage 9.80% 3.54% 6.26% 24.51% 65.69%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group H: The accidental top seed, Arthur, has the good fortune to have a single-race group, which should help him have some very special builds ready. And he'll need them plaing against Xigua, who not only gets to practice his ZvP with his in-house Invictus teammates, but has strong ZvP as it is, taking out HerO in the first round of last season. The other likely beneficiary of this Zerg-heavy group is Sen, whose ZvZ remains in top form, allowing him to make a strong comeback against Guitarcheese to retain his spot. He's also been pretty damn good against Zergs in the TeSL, beating Slam and Ian decisively in the playoffs. The player who probably will have the roughest time in this group is Suppy. He hasn't had a top-level Zerg opponent in a while, and his ZvZ is iffy with his NA counterparts. He does have 2 things going for him, though. He has experience with the Taiwanese, meaning he probably knows a thing or two about Sen, and he has access to the amazing brain trust known only as "Zerg chat". Will that be enough to push him through against this field? It's a tough call.

Aligulac sez: + Show Spoiler +
                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
Arthur 72.89% 42.46% 30.43% 15.77% 11.34%
Sen 58.40% 28.46% 29.94% 23.38% 18.22%
XiGua 34.83% 15.39% 19.45% 29.61% 35.55%
Suppy 33.88% 13.70% 20.18% 31.23% 34.89%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


(Note: Aligulac's percentage predictions are not always in correlation with their projected median outcome.)
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