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United States97276 Posts
Challenger ended today with qxc receiving a walkover victory against Minigun after Minigun failed to show up for the match on time. The admins were unable to get in contact with Minigun for today's matches and qxc was awarded the Premier League spot. The match had already been delayed from the 3rd play day of WCS AM Challenger as Minigun had just been discharged from the hospital. The groups were announced after the DQ.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_WCS_Season_2_America/Premier
Race Distribution: 11  / 12  / 9 
Country Distribution: 16  / 6  / 5  / 3  / 1  / 1 
Poll: Group of Death?E (265) 62% A (68) 16% B (41) 10% G (17) 4% None (13) 3% H (8) 2% C (6) 1% F (5) 1% D (4) 1% 427 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): A
(Vote): B
(Vote): C
(Vote): D
(Vote): E
(Vote): F
(Vote): G
(Vote): H
(Vote): None
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United States33175 Posts
it's a known fact that revival is universally revialed 
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wtf group E lol
and Polt, ez group vs foreigners
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12 Zerg, 11 Protoss, 9 Terran. Dat balance.
E probably is closest to a group of death though A and G are strong groups too.
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God, I'm so sad about Minigun. Hope he's okay. :C
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I hope Chad is okay  .
Group E is crazy for ro32.
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No Blizzcon for JD .
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Here is the fixed graphic:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hchTuxm.png)
Please use this instead, it fixes the revival typo, and the date typo.
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United States97276 Posts
Thanks the op graphic is fixed
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GOGO Huk, Masa and Hendralisk! Shame Scarlett couldn't make it or we could have the great Canadian lineup all in there.
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Go JaeDong! My heart says Jaedong (though Heart probably wants Heart).
For my own personal desires, I want Bomber or Polt to win it or make finals. I need more builds and tactics to copy for my own Terran laddering.
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Awesome groups! Polt getting a good draw to get him to RO16!
Can't wait for it to start!
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On May 13 2014 07:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
GOGO Huk, Masa and Hendralisk! Shame Scarlett couldn't make it or we could have the great Canadian lineup all in there.
Well, she was dropped out by another Canadian, You can't be too sad about 
Kicking off with Revival vs Hero... great
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Man Major aaaaaaaaalways gets a good korean terran in his groups. No group looks extremely deadly other than E and I think Hyun and JD are clear favorites there.
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Chinese players rekt. Tough groups for pretty much all of them.
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On May 13 2014 07:59 dyDrawer wrote:
Chinese players rekt. Tough groups for pretty much all of them.
Jim
2013 Season 1 WCS NA; not allowed to participate, MLG botched the qualifiers
2013 Season 2 WCS NA; 5th place
2013 Season 2 WCS NA Season finals; not allowed to participate due to VISA EU issues
2013 Season 3 WCS NA; knocked out by Hero and Heart in groups
2014 Season 1 WCS NA; stomped by Red Bull Sponsored Pro Gamer Choi Ji Sung in best of 5
2014 Season 2 WCS NA; in an all korean group with Heart, Hyun, and JAEDONG
hmmm
koreans just defending their territory...
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Excite! I love WCS AM for the sheer variety and diversity. Of course WCS EU has many nations as well, but since they all pretty much play on the EU server, there isn't the same diversity in the metagame. What will happen in WCS AM is anyone's guess, and that makes it exciting!
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someone make a poll with who advances!
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United States97276 Posts
On May 13 2014 08:07 nerpderp wrote:
Excite! I love WCS AM for the sheer variety and diversity. Of course WCS EU has many nations as well, but since they all pretty much play on the EU server, there isn't the same diversity in the metagame. What will happen in WCS AM is anyone's guess, and that makes it exciting!
it's a shame we weren't able to get an SEA player outside of Taiwan in this season. It seems like it's been a while since we've had like an Australian or New Zealand player in premier.
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Fixed another small problem in my original post, June 4th is a wednesday not a friday. That is all I promise haha!
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@waxangel, do you know on what servers the south americans team have to play? do the na teams always get to play on na vs them?
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On May 13 2014 08:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 08:07 nerpderp wrote:
Excite! I love WCS AM for the sheer variety and diversity. Of course WCS EU has many nations as well, but since they all pretty much play on the EU server, there isn't the same diversity in the metagame. What will happen in WCS AM is anyone's guess, and that makes it exciting! it's a shame we weren't able to get an SEA player outside of Taiwan in this season. It seems like it's been a while since we've had like an Australian or New Zealand player in premier.
I agree it would have been nice to get in an Aussie or Kiwi. I really think inexperience/pressure really cost Iaguz and PiG these last two seasons, as they were both up 2-0 and ended up losing overall. Also, Petraeus (arguably the strongest SEA player), missed out on qualifying to Challenger league both seasons by one game. Hopefully we'll get some SEA representation next season.
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well lets hope TI4 compendium makes so much money that they will think about playing the qualifier on LAN for TI5. It will just increase the quality of games. And as TI2 compendium payed for all the TI2 costs it...who knows.
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United States97276 Posts
On May 13 2014 08:27 pHaRSiDE wrote:
Fixed another small problem in my original post, June 4th is a wednesday not a friday. That is all I promise haha!
haha it's no problem. The most up to date graphic should now be in the OP
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Suppy will EZ his group. Foreign hope!
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Group A so strong, and Hendralisk and TooDming in the same group sucks. I can only see one of them making it out, and that's only if Illusion isn't on fire
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Those groups, holy shit.
HerO can actually drop out second time in a row in Ro32 as well as Jaedong. Will be sick :D
And Suppy can make it out.
On May 13 2014 08:33 tadL wrote:
well lets hope TI4 compendium makes so much money that they will think about playing the qualifier on LAN for TI5. It will just increase the quality of games. And as TI2 compendium payed for all the TI2 costs it...who knows.
TI3, there were no compendiums for TI2, 2012 wasn't as rich for DotA :D
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The Creator of the Universe will prevail.
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I think group C could definitely be a much closer match than people expect, but E is the group of death without a doubt.
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On May 13 2014 07:50 AKAvg wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 07:44 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
GOGO Huk, Masa and Hendralisk! Shame Scarlett couldn't make it or we could have the great Canadian lineup all in there. Well, she was dropped out by another Canadian, You can't be too sad about
I'm both very happy for Hendralisk and sad for Scarlett. It's the luck of the draw though.
That group E is gonna be a must watch. I quite excited for that.
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this should be called WCS Korea code B
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Wow WTF that group E is stupid stacked and on the other side we have a group G that is honestly almost laughable in comparison how is there such a difference imo between groups kinda weird and stupid
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Dude that group E... Will definitely be amazing to watch, but will be a heartbreaker too. I'm not a big fan of Jim, but seeing a player among Hyun, Jaedong and Heart go out in the ro32 will really feel strange.
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Second time in a row that CranK ends up in a group with Bomber, weird. Hoping that Hendralisk can make it out of his group though, he's been playing amazing lately if team leagues are anything to go by.
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Head picks:
Group A: HuK, HerO (torn between Revival and HuK)
Group B: Bomber, Crank (easy picks here)
Group C: Oz, viOLet (I want puCK to make it though...)
Group D: TaeJa, Neeb (Neeb has been rising rapidly)
Group E: HyuN, Jaedong (anything could happen here but I'll go with the favorites)
Group F: Alicia, Illusion (Is Illusion back??)
Group G: Polt, MacSed (sorry MajOr...)
Group H: Sen, Suppy (gogo Suppy)
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On May 13 2014 07:28 Waxangel wrote:it's a known fact that revival is universally revialed
but he's so handsome
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On May 13 2014 09:18 nichan wrote:
this should be called WCS Korea code B
Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 13 2014 10:10 Radicalness wrote:Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.
"Could" is key word and it's not like Flash, TY, RorO, Curious and so on are B level Koreans. Or, at least it's bad to be a B-level Korean.
You never know how will HerO or Bomber perform, JD won't even pass Code A most likely, TaeJa has wrist issues and Polt is only one who might be lock for Code S in decent conditions from all 5.
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United States97276 Posts
On May 13 2014 11:02 smashlloyd20 wrote:
Oh god poor HuK...
Tough group but he has a really solid shot with PvP imo
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On May 13 2014 10:10 Radicalness wrote:Because HerO, TaeJa, Polt, Bomber and Jaedong are all B level Koreans...Any one of those guys could still make a solid run in Code S.
I think he meant the overall skill level of 32 players is Code B but of course HerO/Taeja/polt/bomber/jd will reach code A
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls
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United States97276 Posts
On May 13 2014 11:30 lichter wrote:
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls
not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses
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Wow these are all insane groups. Major looks like he can finally make it to the Ro16. Looking forward to running some LR's!
Edit: Also Suppy's group sparks major hope! Let's go Suppy!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 13 2014 11:31 Shellshock wrote:not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses
He can still redeem himself by cannon rushing HerO twice and making Olli cry
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On May 13 2014 08:09 Shellshock wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 08:07 nerpderp wrote:
Excite! I love WCS AM for the sheer variety and diversity. Of course WCS EU has many nations as well, but since they all pretty much play on the EU server, there isn't the same diversity in the metagame. What will happen in WCS AM is anyone's guess, and that makes it exciting! it's a shame we weren't able to get an SEA player outside of Taiwan in this season. It seems like it's been a while since we've had like an Australian or New Zealand player in premier.
iaguz was so close T_T
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Group E might seem like the hardest group but still ezpz for THE DONG. Jaedong to win this season!
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A: Revival & Hero
B: Bomber & Masa
C: Violet & QXC
D: Taeja & Check
E: Jaedong & Hyun
F: Alicia & Illusion
G: Polt & Major
H: Suppy & Arthur
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Nearly every group looks pretty fun. I for one am pumped.
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United States97276 Posts
On May 13 2014 11:37 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2014 11:31 Shellshock wrote:On May 13 2014 11:30 lichter wrote:
Bigpaby wcs am s2 champ pls not after his series against Has was such a let down. I hope he loses He can still redeem himself by cannon rushing HerO twice and making Olli cry
I can live with that compromise if he also proxy gates HuK
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Proxy 2gate in HuK's natural and Rotti calls it "teabagging his natural" like I suggested
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For Chinese Players, Group D Top:hard to advance. 20% possible Group E Jim: anything would happen in this group, if Jim can keep his PvZ status in 2013, he can easily advance(4-1 Hyun,2-0 Jaedong). 70% possible Group F Toodming: tooming's zvz is awesome, so he can eaisly defeat hendralist, in his group. Only Alicia and Illusion would be his challenge. 50% possible Group G Macsed & Courage. I think only one of both can advance, Major is not so strong to prevent the two Chinese players. But Polt is so strong for them. Group H Xigua. I don't think he can advance, if this year is 2011, he will advance without any doubt.
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wow huk........... ._.'
please for the competition's sake huk fighting!!!
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Although I'm rooting for the Axiom players to advance, they are an interesting bunch. Each of them now has the potential to either trounce their tougher opponents on a good day (Heart managed to knock out Taeja some season prior) or succumb to weaker ones on a bad day (Ryung...). As a team, they're sturdy enough to be consistent, but getting a deep run alone reveals this individual variance. Of the three here, Alicia has the easiest chance to advance, while both Heart and Crank will face stiff competition from Jaedong, Hyun, Bomber and Nestea in particular, though Jim and Masa are no pushovers either. Toodming, Illusion and Hendralisk may not be semifinalist regulars, but even they may steal first and second.
Also rooting for the Watermelon Zerg, even if the odds are against him, just because the name's awesome!
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I cheer for Sen and the Chinese team!
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Group A: This is actually one of the tougher groups to call. While Revival did make it to the Top 4 last season, he did so going 1-2 in matches (and 5-5 in maps) against Protoss. Of course, the one Toss he actually beat was...Huk. And Huk himself beat HerO in the Round of 32 in the last season, increasing his head-to-head record against this Korean Protoss to 3-1 all time in matches and 7-3 in maps. And, of course, we also have Pigbaby, who can do almost anything, and was credited by Huk as the creator of one of the builds he used to win SHOUTCraft America Winter.
Aligulac sez:
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HerO 58.61% 31.11% 27.50% 21.81% 19.57%
Revival 54.59% 27.65% 26.94% 23.76% 21.66%
HuK 43.68% 20.82% 22.86% 27.09% 29.23%
Pigbaby 43.11% 20.41% 22.70% 27.35% 29.54%
Group B: Age is just a number, they say. Well, the Koreans in this group had better hope so, since their average age is 27 and Masa is in some pretty great form right now. Unfortunately for "America Holds!", Bomber has swiftly made this region his home, clearing out Jaedong, the legendary Has, and twice against groupmate Crank. One of the greatest unanswered questions is how much longer the IM non-player Nestea can hang on. With a far from convincing performance in his Challenger series against Iaguz, his chances to beat Masa are slim, let alone Bomber. This group will inevitable come down to Crank and Masa, a battle of two incredibly scrappy, daring players.
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Bomber 85.72% 58.03% 27.69% 8.64% 5.65%
CranK 45.41% 16.57% 28.84% 31.09% 23.50%
MaSa 42.08% 15.64% 26.44% 28.52% 29.40%
NesTea 26.79% 9.76% 17.03% 31.76% 41.46%
Group C: Oz is a player who's had a serious problem with being recognized for all of his efforts. The man was runner-up last season, and yet he's still not a consensus pick to beat the three Americans in his group. It may be attributed to the unorthodox road of players he made it to the finals through - Nestea, Nestea, Heart, Puck, Arthur, Revival. All the same, there's very little reason to believe Oz won't clear this group out with flying colors. The opening match between Violet and Puck has all the makings of a great battle - Puck, the PvZ specialist who beat Hyun in a season where nobody else was able to do the same, and Violet, who broke 2 powerful Protosses in Seed and Huk on his way to his 4th place finish at Lone Star Clash. One of the deciding factors, in my personal opinion, is that Violet has shown a weakness to unorthodox play (see: his Challenger series against Top from last season), which Puck isn't afraid to break out as needed. You may have noticed a lack of Qxc in this group discussion, and that's not by mistake. He's just such a difficult player to predict, as he can crush skulls one day and break his mouse on stage the next. He's a wildcard whose Challenger match wasn't even played, so his results are anybody's guess.
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Oz 66.64% 36.82% 29.81% 19.00% 14.36%
viOLet 60.92% 31.04% 29.89% 23.13% 15.95%
puCK 49.07% 22.26% 26.81% 28.26% 22.68%
qxc 23.37% 9.88% 13.49% 29.62% 47.01%
Group D: I'm sure that all the contenders here are grateful to be drawn into a three-player group, but that doesn't mean any of them should assume advancement will come easily. Taeja, as everybody knows, is unbeatable when he's ready, and I don't think a trip to Challenger is on the agenda for his extended farewell tour. He's easily the favorite to win the group, leaving the battle to be between rising North America star Neeb and on-again, off-again star Check. Now, with how little Check's primary league, the TeSL, has Terrans in it, one would figure Check's ZvT wouldn't be the most impressive. Well, one would be wrong, as Check won his spot in Challenger in a thrilling, decisive victory against Ryung, who then promptly turned around and beat eventual champion Life at Dreamhack Bucharest. A quick note regarding the 3-player group comment: Top, being predictably aggressive, never beats anyone in Premier. He's a non-factor, always has been.
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TaeJa 75.02% 43.08% 31.94% 16.03% 8.95%
Check 54.55% 26.11% 28.44% 25.18% 20.27%
Top 51.61% 23.93% 27.68% 28.17% 20.22%
neeb 18.82% 6.88% 11.94% 30.62% 50.56%
Group E: Oh, come on now. Are you serious with this group? Hyun, the defending champion. Heart, the master of upsets. Jaedong, coming off a championship at Lone Star Clash. And Jim, the mysterious Chinese man-crusher. Where to begin? Well, Jim has lost to both Heart and Jaedong in WCS America before. Hyun has impeccable ZvZ, his only real Achilles heel being a Zerg who doesn't play in this region anymore. Jaedong took down Heart in Texas in convincing fashion. But really, no matter what the results are, people won't be surprised, but they will be disappointed that 2 great players got knocked out so incredibly early.
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HyuN 72.74% 38.76% 33.98% 16.72% 10.54%
Jaedong 70.13% 38.62% 31.50% 17.50% 12.37%
Jim 29.61% 11.67% 17.94% 33.63% 36.76%
Heart 27.53% 10.95% 16.58% 32.15% 40.33%
Group F: Illusion is at his best against Protoss these days, showing amazing timings against JYP, Minigun before him, and a white-hot Astrea before him. Against Zerg, he hasn't played much in recorded matches in a while, the one exception being a 2-0 of Suppy on his way to qualify for MLG Anaheim. How will he do against the mysterious Chinese mind-breaker Toodming? Well, it's hard to say. Toodming has played against non-Chinese Terrans at almost no point, beating Masa and Drunkenboi and losing to Heart. The group's clear favorite, Alicia is one of those players who makes casters abuse the word "solid". He can beat you on 1 base, he can beat you on 4 bases. What he can't do, though, is get sent out in this season of ATC, playing only 3 of his team's 44 games so far, scoring a win against Stardust and losses to Kane and the 4th player in this group, a white-hot Canadian Zerg by the name of Hendralisk. Hendralisk has shown to be in top form in all of his matchups, suddenly becoming the ace for Complexity-Dignitas, four-killing powerhouse Axiom, and clean sweeping the most talented woman to ever play the game to claim a spot in Premier. This is one of the groups that can either be a nail-biter or a blowout. Either way, the games will be incredibly good.
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Alicia 67.56% 38.01% 29.54% 18.15% 14.30%
hendralisk 49.33% 23.84% 25.49% 25.69% 24.98%
TooDming 43.10% 21.06% 22.04% 26.72% 30.18%
Illusion 40.01% 17.09% 22.93% 29.44% 30.55%
Group G: Wait, this doesn't look quite right. This isn't how a group with Major is supposed to work in WCS America. The formula is clear, and it's been followed to a T for 3 straight seasons. Major gets the Korean Terran as his first opponent, beats them handily, faces a Protoss in the Winners Match, gets smacked down, then rematches the Korean Terran again in the final decider match and loses, being knocked down to Challenger where he quickly fights his way right back. This isn't how it works. I blame ESL's group selection. The Protoss is supposed to be in the Winners Match, Major is supposed to be playing against Polt first (who he has beaten before, incidentally, at an IEM qualifier). This variation on the formula will be quite interesting. If I were to describe Macsed's PvT in a word, it would be "infrequent". Again, China doesn't have a lot in terms of Terrans, and that puts a real dent in the chances of Macsed and Courage, though the latter did manage to qualify this season through a 3-0 sweep of a retiring TheSTC. I don't have to say anything about Polt - barring another power outage in Georgia, the Winter Soldier is gonna be clearing out whoever the hell stands in his way.
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Polt 91.20% 64.65% 26.55% 5.86% 2.94%
MajOr 59.85% 22.01% 37.84% 26.01% 14.14%
MacSed 39.15% 9.80% 29.35% 43.62% 17.23%
Courage 9.80% 3.54% 6.26% 24.51% 65.69%
Group H: The accidental top seed, Arthur, has the good fortune to have a single-race group, which should help him have some very special builds ready. And he'll need them plaing against Xigua, who not only gets to practice his ZvP with his in-house Invictus teammates, but has strong ZvP as it is, taking out HerO in the first round of last season. The other likely beneficiary of this Zerg-heavy group is Sen, whose ZvZ remains in top form, allowing him to make a strong comeback against Guitarcheese to retain his spot. He's also been pretty damn good against Zergs in the TeSL, beating Slam and Ian decisively in the playoffs. The player who probably will have the roughest time in this group is Suppy. He hasn't had a top-level Zerg opponent in a while, and his ZvZ is iffy with his NA counterparts. He does have 2 things going for him, though. He has experience with the Taiwanese, meaning he probably knows a thing or two about Sen, and he has access to the amazing brain trust known only as "Zerg chat". Will that be enough to push him through against this field? It's a tough call.
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Arthur 72.89% 42.46% 30.43% 15.77% 11.34%
Sen 58.40% 28.46% 29.94% 23.38% 18.22%
XiGua 34.83% 15.39% 19.45% 29.61% 35.55%
Suppy 33.88% 13.70% 20.18% 31.23% 34.89%
(Note: Aligulac's percentage predictions are not always in correlation with their projected median outcome.)
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Austria24417 Posts
Tough group for HerO but I believe! Just don't get super unlucky with PvP builds for once please TT
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going to siiiiick xD!!! go polt #merica
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Group E
HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~
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Head:
Group A:  hero, Revival
Group B:  Bomber, NesTea
Group C: viOLet,  Oz
Group D: TaeJa, Top
Group E: Jaedong, HyuN
Group F: Alicia, hendralisk
Group G: Polt, MacSed
Group H: Sen, Arthur
Heart:
Group A: hero, HuK
Group B: Bomber, NesTea
Group C: puCK, qxc
Group D: TaeJa, Top
Group E: Jaedong, Jim
Group F: hendralisk, Illusion
Group G: Polt, MajOr
Group H: Sen, Suppy
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awesome groups, all of them !
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Can somebody tell me who won season 1? I didn't see anything about a season 1 finals for WCS AM.
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On May 13 2014 23:43 SmackDiablo wrote:
Can somebody tell me who won season 1? I didn't see anything about a season 1 finals for WCS AM.
WCS AM was pretty much played immediately after EU every day of each tournament's bracket. After all 3 of the top Terrans were shockingly eliminated in the same round, Hyun went through Alicia and Oz to win himself the title.
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after jim made 5th place, they get sure to give him a to good group to advance xD
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They should really just call it WCS East Asian, out of 32 spots 24 of them (75%) are Korean, Chinese or Taiwanese.
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China6327 Posts
out of the 6 Chinese players only Toodming will advance I'm afraid.
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On May 14 2014 02:06 Drake wrote:
after jim made 5th place, they get sure to give him a to good group to advance xD
yes top 8 must be korean only
for WCS NA
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On May 14 2014 04:22 digmouse wrote:
out of the 6 Chinese players only Toodming will advance I'm afraid.
no faith in Macsed or Courage to beat Major? I agree Polt is the massive favorite in that group, but I would be surprised if Major took down Macsed.
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Damn dat group e, honestly the lineup looks pretty weak this season apart from e. most groups have 1-2 clear favorites
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Group E looks real tough, but the Dong is op.
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5 Americans, 3 Canadians, and 1 Mexican, NA better representation! Maybe we can break into double digits next season :D
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On May 14 2014 09:51 GohgamX wrote:
5 Americans, 3 Canadians, and 1 Mexican, NA better representation! Maybe we can break into double digits next season :D
Minigun is here in spirit!
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On May 14 2014 09:51 GohgamX wrote:
5 Americans, 3 Canadians, and 1 Mexican, NA better representation! Maybe we can break into double digits next season :D
ideally i would want a Canadian to win the whole thing but i would be satisfied with any foreigner making the top 8 this season kekeke
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NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAA ! I wanna see him play !
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Woot. I have a player that I like in every group!
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Awww. I was hoping to finally watch an all Korean Ro 16 in WCS AM.
To be honest, majority of Koreans in the tournament are in the twilight of their careers.
I doubt even crowd favorites like Jaedong, Polt, or HerO would make it to Code S this season.
Taeja could if his wrists are better and Bomber probably could.
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A month ago I would have said JD was pretty much fucked in this group. Now I actually feel pretty confident about his chances.
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