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Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 25 2014 23:18 GMT
#21
Wow that Vortix micro. crazy stuff
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 25 2014 23:27 GMT
#22
On March 26 2014 07:27 Shellshock wrote:
Vortix so good right now especially in ZvT! Just because it's being posted everywhere else
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Holy fucking shit, where's your god now?!?
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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
March 25 2014 23:32 GMT
#23
Vortix is on fire =D
"Right on" - Morrow
pajoondies
Profile Joined February 2014
United States316 Posts
March 25 2014 23:38 GMT
#24
wow that gif of his micro on the extractor is just amazing, vortix is the freaking man and HE'S NOT BM yusssssss for the foreign scene
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 25 2014 23:44 GMT
#25
MMA! MMA! MMA! MMA!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 25 2014 23:50 GMT
#26
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?
Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
March 25 2014 23:56 GMT
#27
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
March 25 2014 23:59 GMT
#28
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
March 26 2014 00:00 GMT
#29
So surprised that MMA did it. Hopefully he plays better in the Ro8

Sad for Mvp
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 00:08:27
March 26 2014 00:08 GMT
#30
Vortix looking really strong now, cool to see Rooting for him to make it into top 16 at the global WCS finals.
@Munck
Ai.Cola
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany236 Posts
March 26 2014 00:19 GMT
#31
How long does it usually take for the vods to be uploaded?
check out my stream: http://www.own3d.tv/live/103247/Alien-Invasion_Cola HotS Terran, Grandmaster
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
March 26 2014 00:20 GMT
#32
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 00:28:35
March 26 2014 00:28 GMT
#33
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there


Two of last year's 3 EU champions are washed up already? That was fast.

Edit: of course the 3rd one went and retired lol.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 26 2014 00:28 GMT
#34
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.


He's the first foreigner to win a Korean-heavy tournament in like a billion years.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 26 2014 00:31 GMT
#35
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.

So salty. My god, I can feel it on my skin, its like swimming in the ocean.

Votix did great today and shows some impressive play, no matter what you say Debbie Downer.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 26 2014 00:49 GMT
#36
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.
I realise this won't convince a small mind, but watching the games, vortix's play was pretty spectacular. Those petty tricks are very fun to watch and impressive indeed, but weren't the reason he won. And referring to patchzergs, surely you must be trolling.
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
March 26 2014 00:51 GMT
#37
On March 26 2014 09:28 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.


He's the first foreigner to win a Korean-heavy tournament in like a billion years.



hes won the vasacast tourney that had 6 / 32 koreans. what is this "Korean-heavy" that you speak of? again, race/nationality dividing. keep proving my point
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
March 26 2014 00:53 GMT
#38
On March 26 2014 09:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.

So salty. My god, I can feel it on my skin, its like swimming in the ocean.

Votix did great today and shows some impressive play, no matter what you say Debbie Downer.


actually u guys are the ones that are salty. I never said he did bad. just that hes not the GREATEST FOREIGNER NOW- BOW DOWN. cmon son do you read
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
March 26 2014 00:54 GMT
#39
On March 26 2014 09:51 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:28 Popkiller wrote:
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.


He's the first foreigner to win a Korean-heavy tournament in like a billion years.



hes won the vasacast tourney that had 6 / 32 koreans. what is this "Korean-heavy" that you speak of? again, race/nationality dividing. keep proving my point


he beat some good ones!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-26 01:06:52
March 26 2014 00:58 GMT
#40
On March 26 2014 09:53 DaftFunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 09:31 Plansix wrote:
On March 26 2014 09:20 DaftFunk wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:59 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:56 Komentaja wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:50 Waise wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:13 DaftFunk wrote:
I guess somehow beating a washed up terran is enough to have ppl throw out "best foreigner" labels here and there

vortix was considered a really strong foreigner throughout 2013 and just beat two koreans 4-0 live in ro16. scarlett hasn't shown any really incredible results recently and naniwa is retiring. plus, vortix's play overall and his micro looked stellar in the games, regardless of the form of MMA and MVP.

not sure why you would make this post other than to be pointlessly negative about something that excites people. some problem with hype for watching a great foreigner play a great round?

Excellent post. Some people just really like crapping on foreigners and/or people in general. It's silly.

yep. and don't get me wrong, he can disagree that vortix is the best foreigner and disagree that vortix's play today was impressive. anyone can post any opinion. but daftfunk's post came off as very bitter and spiteful, which is something i see a lot from naysayers in discussions about "foreign hopes." his post could have easily said "good result for vortix, but i'm personally skeptical about how strong he is" or something constructive. no need to crap on people's joy.

even if vortix retired tomorrow, those 4 games were still a blast to watch!

Because ur memory only lasts a few weeks and every time a new tourney a foreigner does well in, he's considered the new best foreigner. And u are only excited that "a foreigner" did so impressive today, not "a strong player". Pretty much divides everyone by race/ nationality now and isn't about skill anymore, but what country u are from. IMO, it isn't the greatest accomplishment getting out of a group stage. Maybe we can save the best foreigner crap until after the semis or somewhere near it. Again, beating Mvp doesn't make someone the greatest, he's lost to other foreigners before and vortix was always known as a patch zerg in 2013 did u just conveniently forget that or just not accept that really was his nickname? No where in here are ppl saying " wow mma is amazing is he back to top form???," just "omg vortix is greatest foreigner look at that drone mine dodge trick he stole from Snute omgomg" and I never mentioned Scarlett or naniwa but he isn't anywhere near accomplished as them.

So salty. My god, I can feel it on my skin, its like swimming in the ocean.

Votix did great today and shows some impressive play, no matter what you say Debbie Downer.


actually u guys are the ones that are salty. I never said he did bad. just that hes not the GREATEST FOREIGNER NOW- BOW DOWN. cmon son do you read

Check yourself and your facts. "Best foreigner" was followed by a "?" when it was brought up. And then one guy said he was "He has been the best foreigner for quite a while imo :"D" In my opinion", followed by a smiley face! Its like one step above "I think he is totally awesome and super keen!"

Then you drank a big old glass of salty-hateraid and started calling MVP washed up and here we are. I hope you're happy!
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