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NaNiwa to take an indefinite break from StarCraft - Page 7

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Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
March 12 2014 20:10 GMT
#121
Never been a big fan of his, for a few reasons, but I sympathize with him here, and he's hardly alone in his sense of frustration and disenchantment.

He might come back but I strongly doubt it. Not much of a future as an SC2 pro gamer past a certain age and there are far better things to do if the fiery passion isn't there.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 12 2014 20:12 GMT
#122
FUCK
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 20:12 GMT
#123
On March 13 2014 05:07 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:56 ElMeanYo wrote:
I can't stand this guy. He's being paid good money to play a freaking game and bring eyeballs to his teams sponsors.

If I suddenly one day told my boss I i wasn't working anymore until 'i got my motivation back', not only would I not have a job the next day, but my professional reputation would be on thin ice.

Naniwa get your lazy ass out there and back to work.


Congratulations on not understanding how sports work.


I understand perfectly how sports contracts work. I can't abide these spoiled brats who sign for millions and coast along with minimal effort. Even if injured a player should NOT be paid IMO, all the more motivation for them to rehab and get back in shape.

But Nani doesn't have an injury excuse. He's just raking in his teams money. No streaming, likely to get bounced in first round of IEM. I'm sure his team feels as though they've gotten their moneys worth. /sarcasm

"Even if injured a player should NOT be paid IMO, all the more motivation for them to rehab and get back in shape." This is beyond stupid for a number of reasons but not really something that needs to be discussed here.

Naniwa also just decided to quit and not accept a new contract from his team so he isn't going to be raking in any more money. I'm sure EGAlliance is happy with what Naniwa did while on their team.
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 12 2014 20:12 GMT
#124
On March 13 2014 05:09 Darkhorse wrote:
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On March 13 2014 05:07 sharkie wrote:
this will cost IEM a few viewers

On the contrary I think "Come see Naniwa's last SC2 event!" will be a viewership draw. However it is likely he goes out really early which will hurt viewer counts.

Which is dumb, with so many amazing players there, but sadly true
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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 20:13:43
March 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#125
just sell yourself out and be a streamer.


you will get many views because you are a top foreigner.. and you may enjoy interacting with viewers and gain a passion for the game again
WhX
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany778 Posts
March 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#126
Might be bad for the "foreigner" scene, but I don't really care about this. He was a pretty good player from time to time though.
Return and play the game, otherwise stay away from it. It's as simple as that. I wonder if he sets his eyes on another game or considers taking on work/study.

Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
March 12 2014 20:14 GMT
#127
Do not like Naniwa at all, because i don´t like his bad manner. Hes one of the most skilled foreigners and its sad to loose one of those, but just from the perspective of his behaviour i am not sad about it.
Hope he finds his way and maybe comes back.
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I_love_sharkpeople
Profile Joined October 2013
United States253 Posts
March 12 2014 20:14 GMT
#128
Unfortunate. Seems kind of odd that he chooses to retire when the game is "broken" in a way that favors toss as much as it does.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2014 20:14 GMT
#129
On March 13 2014 05:02 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On March 13 2014 04:59 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:56 DinosaurJones wrote:
I never got the hate for the Water Temple, I actually liked it O.o

The Fire Temple was my least favorite...

You monster...


How dare you insult the beauty of the Fire Temple.

Fire temple is great because all the solutions are "hit with hammer." The water temple is the devil.

Nani will be back. He can beat shadow NANI.
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trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
March 12 2014 20:15 GMT
#130
I wonder what he is doing instead of SC2 then. Is he just chillin for now or does he play any other games? go to school maybe like thorzain?
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McBrungus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States265 Posts
March 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#131
Well, if he's taking a break I can respect that, but I'll be super bummed if he quits. He's never been close to my favorite player but I've always respected his ability.
So I says to Mabel, I says...
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
March 12 2014 20:16 GMT
#132
Naniwa does not like free units? Shame on him!
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HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#133
SC 2 is dead to me. ALl my favorites players who had a shot at beating Koreans are leaving. I
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
March 12 2014 20:17 GMT
#134
On March 13 2014 05:07 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:56 ElMeanYo wrote:
I can't stand this guy. He's being paid good money to play a freaking game and bring eyeballs to his teams sponsors.

If I suddenly one day told my boss I i wasn't working anymore until 'i got my motivation back', not only would I not have a job the next day, but my professional reputation would be on thin ice.

Naniwa get your lazy ass out there and back to work.


Congratulations on not understanding how sports work.


I understand perfectly how sports contracts work. I can't abide these spoiled brats who sign for millions and coast along with minimal effort. Even if injured a player should NOT be paid IMO, all the more motivation for them to rehab and get back in shape.

But Nani doesn't have an injury excuse. He's just raking in his teams money. No streaming, likely to get bounced in first round of IEM. I'm sure his team feels as though they've gotten their moneys worth. /sarcasm


You do understand most athletes are paid for their advertising value, and not so much for their performance, right? Besides, there is no comparing sports athletes to e-sports "athletes", as the two industries are worlds apart.

At the end of the day, it's a game. If he doesn't enjoy it, he should feel free to stop. It's not a career, it's not a life-long contract nor is it a commitment, it's simply entertainment brought to a professional level. If he were a caster it would be different, as that is an actual job which does come with responsibilities, but in the end, if you don't enjoy something, you should be free to rid yourself of it if you can afford it, even it if is a job.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 20:20:03
March 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#135
On March 13 2014 05:07 ElMeanYo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 05:00 Zealously wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:56 ElMeanYo wrote:
I can't stand this guy. He's being paid good money to play a freaking game and bring eyeballs to his teams sponsors.

If I suddenly one day told my boss I i wasn't working anymore until 'i got my motivation back', not only would I not have a job the next day, but my professional reputation would be on thin ice.

Naniwa get your lazy ass out there and back to work.


Congratulations on not understanding how sports work.


I understand perfectly how sports contracts work. I can't abide these spoiled brats who sign for millions and coast along with minimal effort. Even if injured a player should NOT be paid IMO, all the more motivation for them to rehab and get back in shape.

But Nani doesn't have an injury excuse. He's just raking in his teams money. No streaming, likely to get bounced in first round of IEM. I'm sure his team feels as though they've gotten their moneys worth. /sarcasm


You would do well to presume less.

On March 13 2014 03:28 Naniwa wrote:
my team gave me a great contract, its not about money for those who wonder. i am taking a break untill i get motivation back but if that doesnt happen then ofcourse i wont continue. i just dont like the game anymore and i feel like blizzard will take a super long time to fix it. i am tired of complaining about it so instead i just choose this instead


A few things to note:

  • Nani most certainly did not sign "for millions", and the idea that there are salaries in the millions in Starcraft is ridiculous.
  • You assume that Nani just up and left saying "I won't work any more", but you have no way of knowing what went down behind closed doors. Besides, the above post seems to indicate that Alliance is fine with Naniwa's decision, or they would not have agreed to the terms.
  • You can pay a player billions, but the player isn't actually passionate enough to dedicate everything to performing and improving, there is nothing money alone can do. You may think that Naniwa could just "get off his lazy ass and get back to work", and he could, but he would not perform. Few can under such conditions, and a player like Naniwa, notorious for being emotional? Never.


Of course, you can say what you want about Naniwa and contracts and sports and whatever you think you may be an authority on, but I'm reasonably confident that Naniwa would not quit (even temporarily) unless there is no motivation for him to muster. He wants to perform, and if he knows he can't then he won't play. It's likely that Alliance and Naniwa are on the same page on this matter, or he would have left Alliance first.

The idea that injured athletes shouldn't be paid is beyond ridiculous, though. If you're not being paid well, how do you suppose they will pay for treatment? Pull money out of their kneecaps?
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Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#136
On March 13 2014 05:12 Dodgin wrote:
FUCK

Your signature is suddenly more relevant than ever before. D:
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#137
This makes me sad.

I hope NaNiwa thrashes people at IEM, wins the tournament and uses all that dirty esports money to return to Korea and play in the GSL!
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 12 2014 20:19 GMT
#138
I love how people think that Naniwa gets paid a lot

SC2 community has a rampant lack of understanding of what money goes where in this scene.
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Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
March 12 2014 20:19 GMT
#139
As much as I don't like him, he is a very important part in the SC2 scene. Hope he find enjoyment soon enough and comes back even stronger.
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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
March 12 2014 20:20 GMT
#140
On March 13 2014 05:15 trada wrote:
I wonder what he is doing instead of SC2 then. Is he just chillin for now or does he play any other games? go to school maybe like thorzain?


Interesting question... hearing him talk about his early gaming career does put a question mark around what grades he has. As far as I understood he more or less dropped everything to pursue gaming.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
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