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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2014 19:41 GMT
#61
On March 13 2014 04:38 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:38 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:33 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:30 Zealously wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:29 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!


That's a really weak list in terms of premier event winnings.


You can't draw conclusions based on premier event winnings alone. Foreigner don't win premier events, but that doesn't mean that they are "weak". There are a dozen Korean players that haven't won anything either, but that makes them weak no more than not winning makes Naniwa or anyone on that list weak.


What I'm driving at is there really isn't a HuK, Idra, Jinro, Nani, Stephano etc to root for anymore, which sucks because it's boring to people without that story line.


People always say story line but I still have no idea what that means.

I root for aLive I am told that he is the opposite of a story line. So I guess a story line = Squirtle?


Squirtle is Kira. Too bad his schemes didn't work out.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 12 2014 19:41 GMT
#62
On March 13 2014 04:38 goxtisc wrote:
I don't like this, is like a soccer player, dunno, let's say Piqué (player frome Spain), he's not the best but he's good, he will never quit playing soccer, i find this decision chilsdish and inmature.

I'm pretty sure Gerard Piqué earns a little more money than NaNiwa (+ Shakira).
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 19:41 GMT
#63
On March 13 2014 04:38 goxtisc wrote:
I don't like this, is like a soccer player, dunno, let's say Piqué (player frome Spain), he's not the best but he's good, he will never quit playing soccer, i find this decision chilsdish and inmature.

I don't think it is childish and immature to try to find something to do that you actually enjoy...
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2014 19:41 GMT
#64
On March 13 2014 04:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:39 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:37 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:33 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:30 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:26 Plansix wrote:
Will be back. Nani's greatest enemy is himself. He has to go on a spirit quest to fight shadow Nani and regain his power.


I think you have the wrong game. This is SC2 not Final Fantasy 4.

Zelda 2? Dark Siders? Prince of Persia? I got game references for days on this one.


[image loading]

Naniwa go to the water temple and fight yourself.

Water temple confirmed worse than swarm hosts.


As an avid hater of the Water Temple I strongly disagree. Swarm Hosts are worse.


10 pool confirmed savior of ZvP.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 12 2014 19:42 GMT
#65
On March 13 2014 04:38 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:33 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:30 Zealously wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:29 BlitchizSC2 wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!


That's a really weak list in terms of premier event winnings.


You can't draw conclusions based on premier event winnings alone. Foreigner don't win premier events, but that doesn't mean that they are "weak". There are a dozen Korean players that haven't won anything either, but that makes them weak no more than not winning makes Naniwa or anyone on that list weak.


What I'm driving at is there really isn't a HuK, Idra, Jinro, Nani, Stephano etc to root for anymore, which sucks because it's boring to people without that story line.


People always say story line but I still have no idea what that means.


It means that players I don't like are inherently uninteresting because I don't like them
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 19:44:09
March 12 2014 19:42 GMT
#66
On March 13 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!

How can CatZ be in that list and not Scarlett ? o_o


Mostly because I thought Scarlett was inactive/stepping back for now?? Am I wrong? I mean, Scarlett is an amazing player, but I thought she wasn't going to be competing as seriously anymore.

EDIT: Also, I am a huge, unashamed CatZ fanboy
Penguinator
Profile Joined December 2010
United States837 Posts
March 12 2014 19:42 GMT
#67
Stephano... Idra... Naniwa... Foreigner hopes please stop leaving
Towelie.635
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 12 2014 19:44 GMT
#68
On March 13 2014 04:38 goxtisc wrote:
I don't like this, is like a soccer player, dunno, let's say Piqué (player frome Spain), he's not the best but he's good, he will never quit playing soccer, i find this decision chilsdish and inmature.


Piqué enjoys playing football. That's the difference, and a very important one. If your desire to win is outweighed by your dislike for the game you play, you can never succeed or grow as a player. You can't force the kind of passion required to improve at Naniwa's (or, well, I guess Piqué's) level unless you already have a substantial amount of passion for what you do. If Naniwa has none, then taking a break to regain that passion is necessary and the correct move to make.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 12 2014 19:44 GMT
#69
On March 13 2014 04:42 DinosaurJones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!

How can CatZ be in that list and not Scarlett ? o_o


Mostly because I thought Scarlett was inactive/stepping back for now?? Am I wrong? I mean, Scarlett is an amazing player, but I thought she wasn't going to be competing as seriously anymore.

Nope! She is going back to Korea and will be playing full time! Don't blame you for not knowing that though.
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On March 05 2014 22:03 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Hello everyone~ Just wanted to give you a quick update since I've been pretty quiet lately on twitter/etc

First; I wanted to apologize for my performance over the last couple months.. Since ASUS in december I haven't really been focused on my play, but I should be back to my usual self from here on..

I'm gonna be flying to Korea on the 22nd to stay there for awhile (5-6 months minimum); and after I'm settled I'll start streaming somewhat regularily (few times a week or more)

If any of you want to ask me something or just send me a message, you can PM me here on TL and I usually read&respond to everything

Don't have any LANs planned at the moment.. I'll play the qualifiers of MLG and for next season of IEM whenever that starts up; but this year I'll mainly be staying in Korea and streaming/etc

thats all~ thank you everyone for being awesome
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-12 19:44:46
March 12 2014 19:44 GMT
#70
On March 13 2014 04:42 DinosaurJones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!

How can CatZ be in that list and not Scarlett ? o_o


Mostly because I thought Scarlett was inactive/stepping back for now?? Am I wrong? I mean, Scarlett is an amazing player, but I thought she wasn't going to be competing as seriously anymore.


She's going to Korea. Not much reason to go there except to player Koreans or get hair advice from Wolf.
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TXRaunchy
Profile Joined June 2013
United States131 Posts
March 12 2014 19:45 GMT
#71
when you play to win and rage when you lose, you lose motivation.


play for fun. that's the point of the game.

Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 12 2014 19:45 GMT
#72
On March 13 2014 04:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:39 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:37 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:33 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:30 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:26 Plansix wrote:
Will be back. Nani's greatest enemy is himself. He has to go on a spirit quest to fight shadow Nani and regain his power.


I think you have the wrong game. This is SC2 not Final Fantasy 4.

Zelda 2? Dark Siders? Prince of Persia? I got game references for days on this one.


[image loading]

Naniwa go to the water temple and fight yourself.

Water temple confirmed worse than swarm hosts.


As an avid hater of the Water Temple I strongly disagree. Swarm Hosts are worse.

Lies. You can kill swarm hosts. The water temple still stands after you beat the boss. Taunting you. Nothing is worse than the water temple.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 12 2014 19:45 GMT
#73
On March 13 2014 04:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:37 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:33 Plansix wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:30 stuchiu wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:26 Plansix wrote:
Will be back. Nani's greatest enemy is himself. He has to go on a spirit quest to fight shadow Nani and regain his power.


I think you have the wrong game. This is SC2 not Final Fantasy 4.

Zelda 2? Dark Siders? Prince of Persia? I got game references for days on this one.


[image loading]

Naniwa go to the water temple and fight yourself.

Water temple confirmed worse than swarm hosts.

And now we know why naniwa lost his passion
Glorious SEA doto
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
March 12 2014 19:46 GMT
#74
Well then! I stand corrected.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
March 12 2014 19:46 GMT
#75
On March 13 2014 04:42 DinosaurJones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!

How can CatZ be in that list and not Scarlett ? o_o


Mostly because I thought Scarlett was inactive/stepping back for now?? Am I wrong? I mean, Scarlett is an amazing player, but I thought she wasn't going to be competing as seriously anymore.

EDIT: Also, I am a huge, unashamed CatZ fanboy

She's going to Korea in two weeks. And I don't think it's to eat bbq. :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
March 12 2014 19:47 GMT
#76
On March 13 2014 04:44 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:42 DinosaurJones wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:35 Boucot wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:25 DinosaurJones wrote:
He's a good player, but I'm not that upset about it. It's his choice, he can do what he wants.

In terms of foreign hope... well, Bunny and TLO are doing great right now. Snute too! And there are always a host of other decent foreigners who can step their game up when needed... Grubby, Suppy, CatZ, Xeno, Dayshi...

We will survive! And all the best to Nani!

How can CatZ be in that list and not Scarlett ? o_o


Mostly because I thought Scarlett was inactive/stepping back for now?? Am I wrong? I mean, Scarlett is an amazing player, but I thought she wasn't going to be competing as seriously anymore.


She's going to Korea. Not much reason to go there except to player Koreans or get hair advice from Wolf.

Would not blame her for a second if it was the latter
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 12 2014 19:47 GMT
#77
On March 13 2014 04:45 TXRaunchy wrote:
when you play to win and rage when you lose, you lose motivation.


play for fun. that's the point of the game.



Playing to win and raging when you lose does not mean you cannot have fun when you play. Playing and competing are different things. It's fine to hate losing like the plague when you're in a competitive setting as long as you enjoy playing when you're not. I would even say that doing everything not to lose is key in becoming the best, which has always been Naniwa's ultimate goal.
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DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
March 12 2014 19:47 GMT
#78
Wolf does know an awful lot about hair...
realityyy
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany50 Posts
March 12 2014 19:48 GMT
#79
Well, I can feel with him. Toss and Mech made me quit sc2 as well (master league). I don't even think Blizzard will fix this, the casual scene is what they are pointing at, and even though they state they care about esports, its still all about selling the game, not about keeping the game interesting for those who already bought it.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 12 2014 19:49 GMT
#80
On March 13 2014 04:47 DinosaurJones wrote:
Wolf does know an awful lot about hair...

Poll: Why is Scarlett going to Korea?

To ask Wolf Hair advice (100)
 
45%

Find Byun (73)
 
33%

Ask Moonglade why he isn't casting PL yet (42)
 
19%

To play sc2 (7)
 
3%

222 total votes

Your vote: Why is Scarlett going to Korea?

(Vote): To play sc2
(Vote): To ask Wolf Hair advice
(Vote): Find Byun
(Vote): Ask Moonglade why he isn't casting PL yet


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