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DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
February 08 2014 17:08 GMT
#221
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 08 2014 17:15 GMT
#222
On February 09 2014 02:08 DooMDash wrote:
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.


Why are there no foreign bonjwas? Seems like a design issue to me
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 17:16:55
February 08 2014 17:16 GMT
#223
On February 09 2014 02:15 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 02:08 DooMDash wrote:
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.


Why are there no foreign bonjwas? Seems like a design issue to me


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385876

Rise of the Protoss next??
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
February 08 2014 17:17 GMT
#224
On February 09 2014 02:16 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 02:15 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2014 02:08 DooMDash wrote:
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.


Why are there no foreign bonjwas? Seems like a design issue to me


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385876

Rise of the Protoss next??


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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 08 2014 17:18 GMT
#225
On February 09 2014 02:15 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 02:08 DooMDash wrote:
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.


Why are there no foreign bonjwas? Seems like a design issue to me

As if that would be the same...
I think he has a valid point
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Aquila-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
516 Posts
February 08 2014 17:19 GMT
#226
No maru award for beeing last terran standing in so many tournaments
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
February 08 2014 17:27 GMT
#227
On February 08 2014 20:43 Alex007 wrote:
Ahahaha, TaeJa as a player and a terran of the year... Poor iNnoVation xD TL Awards unbiased as always!
It's such a shame to call some guy the best player or the year, when he reached just a semifinal in just one season of the poorest and weakest region of WCS, performed worse then Bomber on the only season finals he reacned and lost his first match on Blizzcon...
Fanboys, fanboys everywhere.

It was really nice to read the whole staff, but some things are making this write-up to look so stupid =/


I agree that Taeja probably doesn't deserve those awards, but Innovation? He won ONE tournament and lost in the first round at Blizzcon. Maru had the best year of the three. OSL champ, semi finalist in season 3, semi finalist at Blizzcon. Taeja won more because he played for Liquid and got to travel everywhere, and I guess losing in the group stage of the first Hots GSL now let's you be a "Korean player", even though all your achievements came after. Maru earned those rewards not Innovation.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 17:30 GMT
#228
On February 09 2014 02:27 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 20:43 Alex007 wrote:
Ahahaha, TaeJa as a player and a terran of the year... Poor iNnoVation xD TL Awards unbiased as always!
It's such a shame to call some guy the best player or the year, when he reached just a semifinal in just one season of the poorest and weakest region of WCS, performed worse then Bomber on the only season finals he reacned and lost his first match on Blizzcon...
Fanboys, fanboys everywhere.

It was really nice to read the whole staff, but some things are making this write-up to look so stupid =/


I agree that Taeja probably doesn't deserve those awards, but Innovation? He won ONE tournament and lost in the first round at Blizzcon. Maru had the best year of the three. OSL champ, semi finalist in season 3, semi finalist at Blizzcon. Taeja won more because he played for Liquid and got to travel everywhere, and I guess losing in the group stage of the first Hots GSL now let's you be a "Korean player", even though all your achievements came after. Maru earned those rewards not Innovation.


Innovation dominated the scene from March to late August. Absolutely dominated. In that period, he never finished outside of top 4 in every single Premier tournament he entered.

He also won the triple Crown of team-leagues winning PL, GSTL and ATC
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
February 08 2014 17:41 GMT
#229
On February 09 2014 02:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 02:15 Zealously wrote:
On February 09 2014 02:08 DooMDash wrote:
Why are there no foreign terrans doing well? Seems like a design issue to me.


Why are there no foreign bonjwas? Seems like a design issue to me

As if that would be the same...
I think he has a valid point

No that is completely illogical, historically foreign terrans are super duper. Should we completely redesign the game because Thorzain went to school and Jinro retired?
smashlloyd20
Profile Joined October 2012
251 Posts
February 08 2014 17:45 GMT
#230
How did maru not win anything?
Storm-Giant
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain416 Posts
February 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#231
He also won the triple Crown of team-leagues winning PL, GSTL and ATC

And being not only the best of his team in all three Team-leagues, but also the #2, #1 and #1 in OVERALL performance.

Some people just weight more the NUMBER of tournaments won than the QUALITY of the tournaments a player participated, the overall performance and so on.

Also, for those who say TaeJa was the last Terran in the WoL GSL: Bogus was just behind him. Both of them made into Quarterfinals and just one map of difference between them (Bogus 2-3 vs Symbol, finalist of that GSL, while TaeJa 3-2 Soulkey and then 1-4 to RorO, the eventual champion). And in many tournaments both Inno and TaeJa participated and their results weren't that different: top 16 vs 3rd in MLG Winter, 1st vs 2nd on DH Bucharest, 1st vs 4th on DH winter.

Oh, and WCS circuit gives INnovation a big edge over TaeJa too. But I guess it's easier to say "5 gold medals, better than Mvp'11!" -.-
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-08 17:49:26
February 08 2014 17:48 GMT
#232
On February 09 2014 02:30 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2014 02:27 Wingblade wrote:
On February 08 2014 20:43 Alex007 wrote:
Ahahaha, TaeJa as a player and a terran of the year... Poor iNnoVation xD TL Awards unbiased as always!
It's such a shame to call some guy the best player or the year, when he reached just a semifinal in just one season of the poorest and weakest region of WCS, performed worse then Bomber on the only season finals he reacned and lost his first match on Blizzcon...
Fanboys, fanboys everywhere.

It was really nice to read the whole staff, but some things are making this write-up to look so stupid =/


I agree that Taeja probably doesn't deserve those awards, but Innovation? He won ONE tournament and lost in the first round at Blizzcon. Maru had the best year of the three. OSL champ, semi finalist in season 3, semi finalist at Blizzcon. Taeja won more because he played for Liquid and got to travel everywhere, and I guess losing in the group stage of the first Hots GSL now let's you be a "Korean player", even though all your achievements came after. Maru earned those rewards not Innovation.


Innovation dominated the scene from March to late August. Absolutely dominated. In that period, he never finished outside of top 4 in every single Premier tournament he entered.

He also won the triple Crown of team-leagues winning PL, GSTL and ATC

ya Innovation dominated hard. I remember that he was favoured against everyone and had a ridiculous TvZ record. His TvT was his only problematic matchup but he could win due to multitasking. He was also one of the only terran at the end of WoL who was making RO8(or was it RO4?) from what I recall. Winning PL, GSTL and ATC also should give him a lot more points imo. I dunno, Taeja being terran of the year still seems pretty bias to me.

Also, just read the drama part. The community got blamed for what were broken promises. Disappointing that TL would write something like that but I guess since they had a role to play with EG, it's not hard to see why it was written as such.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
February 08 2014 17:52 GMT
#233
Addressed the worst drama section:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442976#drama
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 08 2014 17:56 GMT
#234
On February 09 2014 02:52 Waxangel wrote:
Addressed the worst drama section:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442976#drama


Thank you for doing that. Really appreciate you taking action here.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 08 2014 17:57 GMT
#235
I still don't know what the drama part is about
AdministratorBreak the chains
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
February 08 2014 17:58 GMT
#236
Nice write up from all the writers of tl who contributed very awesome.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
February 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#237
Inno best terran and player for me 4ever!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#238
On February 09 2014 02:59 GumBa wrote:
Inno best terran and player for me 4ever!


Aren't you forgetting the one and only BBYONGJWA?
AdministratorBreak the chains
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#239
On February 09 2014 02:52 Waxangel wrote:
Addressed the worst drama section:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442976#drama

Good change imo. You're right, the previous part did have an edgy tone which is what probably pissed other members off(and shifting the blame even if it wasn't serious).
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 08 2014 18:02 GMT
#240
On February 09 2014 02:27 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 20:43 Alex007 wrote:
Ahahaha, TaeJa as a player and a terran of the year... Poor iNnoVation xD TL Awards unbiased as always!
It's such a shame to call some guy the best player or the year, when he reached just a semifinal in just one season of the poorest and weakest region of WCS, performed worse then Bomber on the only season finals he reacned and lost his first match on Blizzcon...
Fanboys, fanboys everywhere.

It was really nice to read the whole staff, but some things are making this write-up to look so stupid =/


I agree that Taeja probably doesn't deserve those awards, but Innovation? He won ONE tournament and lost in the first round at Blizzcon. Maru had the best year of the three. OSL champ, semi finalist in season 3, semi finalist at Blizzcon. Taeja won more because he played for Liquid and got to travel everywhere, and I guess losing in the group stage of the first Hots GSL now let's you be a "Korean player", even though all your achievements came after. Maru earned those rewards not Innovation.

Bomber was a semifinalist in WCS KR season 2, won the season 2 finals (something Maru never did), and was also a semifinalist at Blizzcon. Not trying to say Maru doesn't deserve to be in the conversation, but I don't think Bomber should be ignored
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