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If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year.
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On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year.
Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport.
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On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport.
I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal.
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On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal.
Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability.
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On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability.
They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses.
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On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses.
Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing.
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On January 29 2014 09:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses. Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing.
I think he is right, no?
You get something from your country, but i don't think you get price money for winning there
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On January 29 2014 09:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses. Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing.
Don't be so condescending and get off your high horse. That stupid pen icon does not make you intelligent, nor well read, nor even close to being right. There have been countless olympians who have sacrificed everything for just that gold medal. No monetary reward. Just glory is sufficient.
Edit. I see you are from the USA. You don't even know your own history. Now get the fuck out of here before you make a bigger fool of yourself.
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That is AWESOME.
That is exactly what SC2 needs. I am serious.
We need drama, we need action, we need change. SC2 is SPORTS, we don't need any more children shows, it needs to be ROUGH and HARD.
Good we have some people in sc2 business left who understand this. 
As for the losers - they have a paid vacation, no expenses on their side. That is more than enough.
Let's hope it will be one of the hottest tournaments ever!
ESL and IEM ftw!
Also predicting Taeja winning and Jaedong as runner-up. But maybe Jaedong can do it, depending on his nerves.
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On January 29 2014 10:00 donkeykong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses. Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing. Don't be so condescending and get off your high horse. That stupid pen icon does not make you intelligent, nor well read, nor even close to being right. There have been countless olympians who have sacrificed everything for just that gold medal. No monetary reward. Just glory is sufficient.
Don't be so proud of yourself since your analogy isn't so smart either. Besides gold medals, there're guess what silver medals and bronze medals. If olympics paid winner $100K and nothing to other players I'm sure many people will have a problem with that.
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well they already succeeded with the marketing / getting attention for the tournament, 46 pages..
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On January 29 2014 10:07 imrusty269 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:00 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses. Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing. Don't be so condescending and get off your high horse. That stupid pen icon does not make you intelligent, nor well read, nor even close to being right. There have been countless olympians who have sacrificed everything for just that gold medal. No monetary reward. Just glory is sufficient. Don't be so proud of yourself since your analogy isn't so smart either. Besides gold medals, there're guess what silver medals and bronze medals. If olympics paid winner $100K and nothing to other players I'm sure many people will have a problem with that.
A fake silver medal and a geniune bronze medal. They all get nothing. Not a single $1. How old are you people who are arguing against this point? I guess not old enough to remember the amateur days. Look in the dictionary what amateur means and come back to me. Now go sit in the ignorant corner.
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On January 29 2014 10:25 donkeykong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:07 imrusty269 wrote:On January 29 2014 10:00 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:34 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability. They do not get paid a single $1. All they get is a fake gold medal for spending their whole lives practising and sacrificing for. It is called glory. If you want to call it a farm system, I can also call them team houses. Okay dude. Your vast knowledge of international sports is clearly showing. Don't be so condescending and get off your high horse. That stupid pen icon does not make you intelligent, nor well read, nor even close to being right. There have been countless olympians who have sacrificed everything for just that gold medal. No monetary reward. Just glory is sufficient. Don't be so proud of yourself since your analogy isn't so smart either. Besides gold medals, there're guess what silver medals and bronze medals. If olympics paid winner $100K and nothing to other players I'm sure many people will have a problem with that. A fake silver medal and a geniune bronze medal. They all get nothing. Not a single $1. How old are you people who are arguing against this point? I guess not old enough to remember the amateur days. Look in the dictionary what amateur means and come back to me. Now go sit in the ignorant corner.
Point is you failed to provide a popular sport event that payout only to the winner. The Olympics doesn't pay anybody at all, hence it is not a counter example. GG.
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On January 29 2014 10:07 Caladan wrote:That is AWESOME. That is exactly what SC2 needs. I am serious. We need drama, we need action, we need change. SC2 is SPORTS, we don't need any more children shows, it needs to be ROUGH and HARD. Good we have some people in sc2 business left who understand this. As for the losers - they have a paid vacation, no expenses on their side. That is more than enough. Let's hope it will be one of the hottest tournaments ever! ESL and IEM ftw! Also predicting Taeja winning and Jaedong as runner-up. But maybe Jaedong can do it, depending on his nerves.
I like you, I agree TaeJa needs more money! ;D
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On January 29 2014 11:08 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:07 Caladan wrote:That is AWESOME. That is exactly what SC2 needs. I am serious. We need drama, we need action, we need change. SC2 is SPORTS, we don't need any more children shows, it needs to be ROUGH and HARD. Good we have some people in sc2 business left who understand this. As for the losers - they have a paid vacation, no expenses on their side. That is more than enough. Let's hope it will be one of the hottest tournaments ever! ESL and IEM ftw! Also predicting Taeja winning and Jaedong as runner-up. But maybe Jaedong can do it, depending on his nerves. I like you, I agree TaeJa needs more money! ;D
but predicting TaeJa to beat Jaedong seems a little farfetched. http://aligulac.com/results/search/?search=&after=&before=&players=jaedong
taeja&event=&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&op=Search
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Whatever they want. So I support. All or nothing. So sexy
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A marketing tactic to benefit the producers of the event more than anyone else AND it discourages growth in SC player base.
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there is nothing wrong with that.
that will make every match and series more exciting than ever, you loose 1 series and you are out with 0 penny.
that will make the players works harder to deserve their money and not just shows off to get eliminated in round of 16 and go back home with 5k$.
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On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal.
I'm not sure what everyone is arguing here, but the Olympics is an event. Something people do every 4 years while playing their sport professionally in the meantime. You can be a moron about this if you want and name crap like intramural soccer, but we're not talking about amateur sports with regards to e-sports.
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On January 29 2014 09:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:24 donkeykong wrote:On January 29 2014 09:20 chaos021 wrote:On January 29 2014 08:13 shabby wrote:
If you don't play to win, then whats the point anyway, tbh. In most other individual sports 99% of the participants are basically losers, and most have real jobs on the side to be able to support themselves/their family. They do it because they think its fun/they can/they want to become the great or whatever. The Winter Olympics start in 10 days, and the vast majority there will do nothing but show up and lose. Don't see them complaining. Getting there is an achievement in itself.
Don't shit in IEM for trying out something new. Be super thankful that they throw $100k at SC2 in addition to all the other tournaments they run through the year. Name one individual sport that doesn't pay out beyond the winner, and I'll show you a dead/dying sport. I can name many. It is called the Olympics. You spend 15 years of your life and you get a fake gold medal. Almost every sport in the Olympics has multiple events and a farm system that provides financial stability.
That may be true for the flagship sports but I would say there are good number of sports that aren't inherently solvent on their own but regardless it isn't really relevant to the topic at hand.
I think its kind of an interesting move. Will make for high drama and I will certainly watch because of it.
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