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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 15 2014 18:02 GMT
#5361
Tournament started. All come watch. Link to stream is on the right
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
March 15 2014 18:27 GMT
#5362
Tournament has started:

http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv

brackets:

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Starbow_ladder_cup_1/Event_1
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
March 15 2014 18:42 GMT
#5363
I never signed up for that tournament
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 15 2014 19:12 GMT
#5364
On March 16 2014 03:42 Foxxan wrote:
I never signed up for that tournament


Thats too bad, i would have liked to steal some builds if you were playing Terran lol.

On a side note, im sorry for the poor showing, my plan was to wake up early, eat breakfast, warm up games, and get in there and kick some ass. Instead, i had trouble sleeping, slept 1 or 2 hours, and could not get out of bed when my alarm went off. Instead, i woke 1.5 hours late for the tourny, rolled out of bed and played my match, which i lost horribly, i was really not prepared. Was going to be hard enough beating Teddybear with practice, but i had no chance in my state, hes a really strong player and pwnd me. Im very unhappy with myself, i worked all week to get to this point, and i let it slip passed me. Anyways, sorry to everyone involved, sorry to Teddybear who probably had to wait a long time, and sorry i screwed up. Take care all. gg gl.
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
March 15 2014 19:24 GMT
#5365
On March 16 2014 04:12 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:42 Foxxan wrote:
I never signed up for that tournament


Thats too bad, i would have liked to steal some builds if you were playing Terran lol.

On a side note, im sorry for the poor showing, my plan was to wake up early, eat breakfast, warm up games, and get in there and kick some ass. Instead, i had trouble sleeping, slept 1 or 2 hours, and could not get out of bed when my alarm went off. Instead, i woke 1.5 hours late for the tourny, rolled out of bed and played my match, which i lost horribly, i was really not prepared. Was going to be hard enough beating Teddybear with practice, but i had no chance in my state, hes a really strong player and pwnd me. Im very unhappy with myself, i worked all week to get to this point, and i let it slip passed me. Anyways, sorry to everyone involved, sorry to Teddybear who probably had to wait a long time, and sorry i screwed up. Take care all. gg gl.

You let us down! Nobody lets us down!
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
coZy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States65 Posts
March 15 2014 19:53 GMT
#5366
On March 16 2014 04:24 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 04:12 rebuffering wrote:
On March 16 2014 03:42 Foxxan wrote:
I never signed up for that tournament


Thats too bad, i would have liked to steal some builds if you were playing Terran lol.

On a side note, im sorry for the poor showing, my plan was to wake up early, eat breakfast, warm up games, and get in there and kick some ass. Instead, i had trouble sleeping, slept 1 or 2 hours, and could not get out of bed when my alarm went off. Instead, i woke 1.5 hours late for the tourny, rolled out of bed and played my match, which i lost horribly, i was really not prepared. Was going to be hard enough beating Teddybear with practice, but i had no chance in my state, hes a really strong player and pwnd me. Im very unhappy with myself, i worked all week to get to this point, and i let it slip passed me. Anyways, sorry to everyone involved, sorry to Teddybear who probably had to wait a long time, and sorry i screwed up. Take care all. gg gl.

You let us down! Nobody lets us down!

Sarcasm doesn't work very well on the internet..Anyway, sorry for your bad showing, Rebuff. Keep at your practice, dude.
Balthazar
Profile Joined February 2011
United States277 Posts
March 15 2014 19:57 GMT
#5367
On March 16 2014 04:12 rebuffering wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 03:42 Foxxan wrote:
I never signed up for that tournament


Thats too bad, i would have liked to steal some builds if you were playing Terran lol.

On a side note, im sorry for the poor showing, my plan was to wake up early, eat breakfast, warm up games, and get in there and kick some ass. Instead, i had trouble sleeping, slept 1 or 2 hours, and could not get out of bed when my alarm went off. Instead, i woke 1.5 hours late for the tourny, rolled out of bed and played my match, which i lost horribly, i was really not prepared. Was going to be hard enough beating Teddybear with practice, but i had no chance in my state, hes a really strong player and pwnd me. Im very unhappy with myself, i worked all week to get to this point, and i let it slip passed me. Anyways, sorry to everyone involved, sorry to Teddybear who probably had to wait a long time, and sorry i screwed up. Take care all. gg gl.


Don't worry, that's not quite as embarrassing as losing to 6 vultures in under 10 minutes like I did.

There's always next time!
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
March 15 2014 21:43 GMT
#5368
NasD NOOO!!!
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
Schnullerbacke13
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1199 Posts
March 15 2014 22:10 GMT
#5369
+1 for this. made me login in to tl after ~1 year :-)
21 is half the truth
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
March 15 2014 22:53 GMT
#5370
so zerg officially op now?
aka Kalevi
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 15 2014 22:55 GMT
#5371
On March 10 2014 01:04 Xiphias wrote:
(Edit: Removed the google doc and just added the interesting statistics here)

Global ladder win rates:

TvZ:
- Terran 49,5 %
- Zerg 50,5 %

PvT:
- Terran 50,3 %
- Protoss 49,7 %

ZvP
- Zerg 56,8 %
- Protoss 43,2 %

Seems good so far. ZvP seems a tad alarming but remember that there are not too many matches to base this on (around 2,5k i think or more). I would wait some more weeks to see if ZvP stabilizes before shouting "IMBA" too loud.


Seems ok considering how BW ZvP winrates would peak at 60% even post-Bisu revolution. Have there been any changes since the 10th? (either patches or a drop in winrate)
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 15 2014 22:58 GMT
#5372
On March 16 2014 07:53 404AlphaSquad wrote:
so zerg officially op now?

Well NasD basically let Redbandit win with that stupid scv pull...
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 23:01:04
March 15 2014 23:00 GMT
#5373
On March 16 2014 07:55 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 01:04 Xiphias wrote:
(Edit: Removed the google doc and just added the interesting statistics here)

Global ladder win rates:

TvZ:
- Terran 49,5 %
- Zerg 50,5 %

PvT:
- Terran 50,3 %
- Protoss 49,7 %

ZvP
- Zerg 56,8 %
- Protoss 43,2 %

Seems good so far. ZvP seems a tad alarming but remember that there are not too many matches to base this on (around 2,5k i think or more). I would wait some more weeks to see if ZvP stabilizes before shouting "IMBA" too loud.


Seems ok considering how BW ZvP winrates would peak at 60% even post-Bisu revolution. Have there been any changes since the 10th? (either patches or a drop in winrate)

OK........
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
March 15 2014 23:00 GMT
#5374
--- Nuked ---
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 23:04:00
March 15 2014 23:01 GMT
#5375
On March 16 2014 08:00 bearhug wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 07:55 Cheren wrote:
On March 10 2014 01:04 Xiphias wrote:
(Edit: Removed the google doc and just added the interesting statistics here)

Global ladder win rates:

TvZ:
- Terran 49,5 %
- Zerg 50,5 %

PvT:
- Terran 50,3 %
- Protoss 49,7 %

ZvP
- Zerg 56,8 %
- Protoss 43,2 %

Seems good so far. ZvP seems a tad alarming but remember that there are not too many matches to base this on (around 2,5k i think or more). I would wait some more weeks to see if ZvP stabilizes before shouting "IMBA" too loud.


Seems ok considering how BW ZvP winrates would peak at 60% even post-Bisu revolution. Have there been any changes since the 10th? (either patches or a drop in winrate)


OK? LOL. GSL PvT is like 54%, looks quite OK to you? Yet there are only one Terran in Ro8.
just like you play vs bronze players and got 50% win ratio....


I mean it's based on BW ZvP which at times had even more extreme winrates, my point is they're making progress.

[image loading]

It was heavily variable but it doesn't seem to stray too far from the game it's based on.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 23:04:21
March 15 2014 23:02 GMT
#5376
On March 16 2014 08:00 Laertes wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/20ifw0/fed_up_with_sc2_after_iem_rifkin_casting_starbow/


LOL. Nice timing ads.
Anyway, gg SC2. Starbow is the future.
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
March 15 2014 23:03 GMT
#5377
On March 16 2014 08:01 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:00 bearhug wrote:
On March 16 2014 07:55 Cheren wrote:
On March 10 2014 01:04 Xiphias wrote:
(Edit: Removed the google doc and just added the interesting statistics here)

Global ladder win rates:

TvZ:
- Terran 49,5 %
- Zerg 50,5 %

PvT:
- Terran 50,3 %
- Protoss 49,7 %

ZvP
- Zerg 56,8 %
- Protoss 43,2 %

Seems good so far. ZvP seems a tad alarming but remember that there are not too many matches to base this on (around 2,5k i think or more). I would wait some more weeks to see if ZvP stabilizes before shouting "IMBA" too loud.


Seems ok considering how BW ZvP winrates would peak at 60% even post-Bisu revolution. Have there been any changes since the 10th? (either patches or a drop in winrate)


OK? LOL. GSL PvT is like 54%, looks quite OK to you? Yet there are only one Terran in Ro8.
just like you play vs bronze players and got 50% win ratio....


I mean it's based on BW ZvP which at times had even more extreme winrates, my point is they're making progress.

I apologize. I edited my post. Thought I was in the IEM thread....
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
March 15 2014 23:11 GMT
#5378
On March 16 2014 07:55 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2014 01:04 Xiphias wrote:
(Edit: Removed the google doc and just added the interesting statistics here)

Global ladder win rates:

TvZ:
- Terran 49,5 %
- Zerg 50,5 %

PvT:
- Terran 50,3 %
- Protoss 49,7 %

ZvP
- Zerg 56,8 %
- Protoss 43,2 %

Seems good so far. ZvP seems a tad alarming but remember that there are not too many matches to base this on (around 2,5k i think or more). I would wait some more weeks to see if ZvP stabilizes before shouting "IMBA" too loud.


Seems ok considering how BW ZvP winrates would peak at 60% even post-Bisu revolution. Have there been any changes since the 10th? (either patches or a drop in winrate)


These win/rates can easily be explained by simply looking at the quality of zerg players and compared to the quality of protoss players (based on SC2-ranks). Obviously when sample size is small, the quality of the player pool has a high influence on win/rates, and thus these statistics are borderline useless.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
March 15 2014 23:13 GMT
#5379
On March 16 2014 08:00 Laertes wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/20ifw0/fed_up_with_sc2_after_iem_rifkin_casting_starbow/

Ugh, that sort of sentiment is just really annoying to me. We all have to do our part to get Starbow accepted as a friendly alternative to Starcraft II that has a part to play in the general ecosystem of Starcraft related things.

What we shouldn't do is be divisive, it provokes posts like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/20ifw0/fed_up_with_sc2_after_iem_rifkin_casting_starbow/cg3j7n5
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
zawk9
Profile Joined March 2011
United States427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 23:43:08
March 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#5380
On March 16 2014 08:13 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 08:00 Laertes wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/20ifw0/fed_up_with_sc2_after_iem_rifkin_casting_starbow/

Ugh, that sort of sentiment is just really annoying to me. We all have to do our part to get Starbow accepted as a friendly alternative to Starcraft II that has a part to play in the general ecosystem of Starcraft related things.

What we shouldn't do is be divisive, it provokes posts like this: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/20ifw0/fed_up_with_sc2_after_iem_rifkin_casting_starbow/cg3j7n5


I agree. Being aggressive like that will just further isolate and marginalize the community and its just a sentiment I don't share.
there's a bug in the new patch where the other player keeps killing all my dudes.. please nerf this
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