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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 01 2014 15:08 GMT
#321
I would like to hear Simon's side of the story. However the question remains, if he is even willing to tell the truth.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
PeopleWhoAnnoyYou
Profile Joined November 2012
58 Posts
January 01 2014 15:09 GMT
#322
On January 01 2014 21:45 teddyoojo wrote:
you know what makes me mad? Quantic STILL exists after Proving its shady as fuck again and again


Well it looks like the community will bail out Quantic on this one with all their donations to Hyun. Truly a sad thing to see.

This community is so blinded by their desire to help Hyun and "do the right thing" that they are actually doing the opposite.

Stop donating and bailing Quantic out people. This is beyond insane. We have to pursue Quantic and get some answers from Simon.
stefantheterran
Profile Joined December 2013
Austria61 Posts
January 01 2014 15:11 GMT
#323
Holy fuck.. I'm speechless... who the fuck would/could do this and live with himself? I thought that we were past this kind of bullshit happening but I guess there are plenty of assholes in "business" still.. stealing money from players who earned it, despicable
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 01 2014 15:11 GMT
#324
On January 02 2014 00:07 Tabashi wrote:
I sent an e-mail to all the sponsors of Quantic Gaming. I hope someone finds that Simon dude and make him pay! In some countries they would chop off his hands if he'd be found guilty of theft...

Unless HyuN can somehow sell each of them for $11,500, that would not be of much use.
stefantheterran
Profile Joined December 2013
Austria61 Posts
January 01 2014 15:16 GMT
#325
Lets help Hyun smile in the mean time: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439725

But Simon still needs to pay in more ways than one!
Fasy
Profile Joined August 2012
Italy13 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 15:19:36
January 01 2014 15:19 GMT
#326
On January 02 2014 00:11 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:07 Tabashi wrote:
I sent an e-mail to all the sponsors of Quantic Gaming. I hope someone finds that Simon dude and make him pay! In some countries they would chop off his hands if he'd be found guilty of theft...

Unless HyuN can somehow sell each of them for $11,500, that would not be of much use.


maybe some cannibal rich dude is gonna buy them
126Q;A1
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden517 Posts
January 01 2014 15:34 GMT
#327
On January 01 2014 23:55 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Let's hear Simon's side before we jump to conclusions.

If HyuN's story is true on the salient points, the story is quite damning.


I too wish people wouldn't be so quick to bring out the pitchforks, but there we are. The sensationalist thread title doesn't exactly help.
jaedong: "I play Counter-Strike and that is the only game I like to follow [...] my favorite team is WeMade FOX but I also like SK and fnatic."
rafaliusz
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland482 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 15:39:32
January 01 2014 15:36 GMT
#328
On January 02 2014 00:11 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:07 Tabashi wrote:
I sent an e-mail to all the sponsors of Quantic Gaming. I hope someone finds that Simon dude and make him pay! In some countries they would chop off his hands if he'd be found guilty of theft...

Unless HyuN can somehow sell each of them for $11,500, that would not be of much use.

What a stupid post. Ever heard of "ubi culpa est, ibi poena subesse debet"?
Cutting hands off is a very adequate punishment.
PeopleWhoAnnoyYou
Profile Joined November 2012
58 Posts
January 01 2014 15:43 GMT
#329
On January 02 2014 00:34 126Q;A1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 23:55 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Let's hear Simon's side before we jump to conclusions.

If HyuN's story is true on the salient points, the story is quite damning.


I too wish people wouldn't be so quick to bring out the pitchforks, but there we are. The sensationalist thread title doesn't exactly help.


Lol......This has to be a joke post. Quantic Simon/Sambuca is a known scumbag. What more does he have to say? He's pulled so many scams over the years in multiple games. You really think this case is any different? Why do you think he went into hiding? Your mentality only hurts the community and Hyun.
ZealotMaster
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom15 Posts
January 01 2014 15:44 GMT
#330
Hello

Massive SC2/esports fan. I am also a litigation lawyer at a "Magic Circle" firm, specialising in international/cross-border disputes. Happy to take a look at options (for free) if the relevant person drops me a line privately.

Cheers
Tom.806@SEA and EU (GM Protoss)
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 01 2014 15:46 GMT
#331
You're owed $23000?
That's okay Hyun, you play zerg. You'll make more.

Okay, kidding.
I hope Hyun gets his money.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 01 2014 15:46 GMT
#332
On January 02 2014 00:36 rafaliusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:11 TheDwf wrote:
On January 02 2014 00:07 Tabashi wrote:
I sent an e-mail to all the sponsors of Quantic Gaming. I hope someone finds that Simon dude and make him pay! In some countries they would chop off his hands if he'd be found guilty of theft...

Unless HyuN can somehow sell each of them for $11,500, that would not be of much use.

What a stupid post. Ever heard of "ubi culpa est, ibi poena subesse debet"?
Cutting hands off is a very adequate punishment.

Maybe by medieval standards, but last I heard we're in 2014 now.
dehydrogenaza
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland122 Posts
January 01 2014 15:49 GMT
#333
On January 02 2014 00:03 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 23:58 dehydrogenaza wrote:
Lol I love how the consensus of this thread seems to be "poor HyuN, no point in even trying to get his 23k$ back".

Real life story: in my 3rd world country of Poland, my mom was scammed for fucking 600 PLN (<200 USD) on Allegro (Polish equivalent of eBay). She sued the scumbag, got her money back, never had to pay anything (the seller had to). But HyuN should just forget about his 23k, move to another team and be scammed again.

Canada must be a horrible place to live.

There is a small but notable difference between your case and Hyun's. For one we do not know on what terms those 23k got to Simon in the first place.


Of course there is a huge difference, but assuming that the story presented in this thread is true, there is NO WAY IN HELL that Simon would get away with that money, as long as HyuN doesn't give up (which this thread seems to suggest). And assuming that Canada is not barbaric.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
January 01 2014 15:50 GMT
#334
no wonder majority of the world takes esport seriously.

hideous creatures like Simon are unfortunately a common appearance in esports.
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Aurex
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada115 Posts
January 01 2014 15:52 GMT
#335
By canadian law he needs to claim anything over 1000 and pay taxes on anything transferred over 10k so i can see WHY he was doing things the way he was with the x amount of 950 payments, that doesnt mean i think its right.
Neo7
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 15:54:21
January 01 2014 15:52 GMT
#336
On January 02 2014 00:43 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:34 126Q;A1 wrote:
On January 01 2014 23:55 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Let's hear Simon's side before we jump to conclusions.

If HyuN's story is true on the salient points, the story is quite damning.


I too wish people wouldn't be so quick to bring out the pitchforks, but there we are. The sensationalist thread title doesn't exactly help.


Lol......This has to be a joke post. Quantic Simon/Sambuca is a known scumbag. What more does he have to say? He's pulled so many scams over the years in multiple games. You really think this case is any different? Why do you think he went into hiding? Your mentality only hurts the community and Hyun.


Be that as it may, everyone deserves an opportunity to explain themselves. Prejudice on a serious accusation before all testimony is presented is actually a very negative quality to have as a community member anywhere.
It takes an idiot to do cool things.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 15:57:46
January 01 2014 15:53 GMT
#337
On January 02 2014 00:50 esdf wrote:
no wonder majority of the world takes esport seriously.

hideous creatures like Simon are unfortunately a common appearance in esports.


And everywhere else. I've been cheated out of a (albeit almost insignificantly small in comparison to this) sum of money by a previous swimming team, and I know many other athletes have similar stories. It's just that in major sports, a large number of trustworthy and (for the most part) professionally run teams have emerged because there has been more time (and incentive) for them to do so. Esports is still a new thing and it's not particularly strange that a lot of would-be businessmen jumped on the train hoping it would lead to easy money and now jump shit because that wasn't the case.

On January 02 2014 00:52 Neo7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:43 PeopleWhoAnnoyYou wrote:
On January 02 2014 00:34 126Q;A1 wrote:
On January 01 2014 23:55 Emperor_Earth wrote:
Let's hear Simon's side before we jump to conclusions.

If HyuN's story is true on the salient points, the story is quite damning.


I too wish people wouldn't be so quick to bring out the pitchforks, but there we are. The sensationalist thread title doesn't exactly help.


Lol......This has to be a joke post. Quantic Simon/Sambuca is a known scumbag. What more does he have to say? He's pulled so many scams over the years in multiple games. You really think this case is any different? Why do you think he went into hiding? Your mentality only hurts the community and Hyun.


Be that as it may, everyone deserves an opportunity to explain themselves. Prejudice on a serious accusation before all testimony is presented is actually a very negative quality to have as a community member anywhere.


If I were accused of essentially stealing over twenty thousand dollars, I'd be very quick to get on the internet and explain the situation. Since Simon is yet to do so (and hasn't for months), and bearing the fact that Simon has proven himself untrustworthy and unprofessional in the past, this is one of those cases where we can be pretty sure what the "victim" is saying is the truth.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
January 01 2014 15:57 GMT
#338
On January 02 2014 00:44 ZealotMaster wrote:
Hello

Massive SC2/esports fan. I am also a litigation lawyer at a "Magic Circle" firm, specialising in international/cross-border disputes. Happy to take a look at options (for free) if the relevant person drops me a line privately.

Cheers

That's a mighty fine offer, I hope it gets read by the right persons
Best of luck to Hyun, it's a shame we seem to have so many shady people in eSports.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
January 01 2014 15:57 GMT
#339
On January 02 2014 00:36 rafaliusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 00:11 TheDwf wrote:
On January 02 2014 00:07 Tabashi wrote:
I sent an e-mail to all the sponsors of Quantic Gaming. I hope someone finds that Simon dude and make him pay! In some countries they would chop off his hands if he'd be found guilty of theft...

Unless HyuN can somehow sell each of them for $11,500, that would not be of much use.

What a stupid post. Ever heard of "ubi culpa est, ibi poena subesse debet"?
Cutting hands off is a very adequate punishment.

What a stupid post. Ever heard of "we are in a civilized era and we don't cut off hands anymore" ?
Bogeyman
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden307 Posts
January 01 2014 16:15 GMT
#340
Holy fucking shit!
This Simon guy seems like a complete piece of shit.

I don't use twitter, but you who do should give him a piece of your mind:
https://twitter.com/QuanticSamBuca

Obviously no death threats and stupid shit like that, but he needs to understand you just don't treat people like this. He's either extremely selfish, a misanthrope or lacks any and all empathy. Or all of it.

I keep getting surprised by how incredibly callous people can be, but I guess I shouldn't be. Psychopaths and megalomaniacs always seem to find their way to the top, abusing the trust of everyone around them. So here's a big FUCK OFF to all of them, with a special mention to Simon Boudreault.
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