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Letter from KeSPA - Please take care of Proleague - Page 4

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GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
December 29 2013 16:52 GMT
#61
On December 29 2013 23:41 lichter wrote:
#FREETERRY

If Kespa shop opens I am going to buy a lot


I know. I've been dying for a KT Jacket.
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Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 29 2013 16:56 GMT
#62
On December 30 2013 01:40 HeavenResign wrote:
How are HD passes for this season working? I couldn't find any info on it from the other TL threads. I bought the $5 HD pass last year without much of a thought, if it's a similar price I'd definitely buy.

EDIT: Sorry to drag this off-topic, I meant this to be about supporting PL. The twitch channel says I'm still subscribed but iirc last year was a one time payment and I haven't been charged again?


The subs from last year still stand, but there is nothing special for them - basically everything is free now.
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HeavenResign
Profile Joined April 2011
United States702 Posts
December 29 2013 16:57 GMT
#63
On December 30 2013 01:56 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 01:40 HeavenResign wrote:
How are HD passes for this season working? I couldn't find any info on it from the other TL threads. I bought the $5 HD pass last year without much of a thought, if it's a similar price I'd definitely buy.

EDIT: Sorry to drag this off-topic, I meant this to be about supporting PL. The twitch channel says I'm still subscribed but iirc last year was a one time payment and I haven't been charged again?


The subs from last year still stand, but there is nothing special for them - basically everything is free now.


Hmm alright. Is there anything foreigners can do to support PL then? I watch VODs but if I'm not getting any ads since I'm subscribed from last year I'm not sure how that helps then haha.

Thank you!
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 17:09:04
December 29 2013 17:07 GMT
#64
On December 30 2013 01:52 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 23:41 lichter wrote:
#FREETERRY

If Kespa shop opens I am going to buy a lot


I know. I've been dying for a KT Jacket.


GIEV KT JACKET PLZ

Considering how the sales of Ronaldo's Real Madrid shirt got them enough money to cover his transfer costs I'm amazed it's so hard to get some damn eSports clothing.

We have TL doing it and some other teams but for the Korean teams it's so hard to get any merchandise. I really think they're dropping the ball here. Besides income it's one of the best "free" marketing when people are walking around in eSports jackets or something like that considering you're actually selling the stuff.
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Aiomon
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada39 Posts
December 29 2013 17:25 GMT
#65
I am excited. If yesterday showed us anything, I think this season will be one of the best!
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
December 29 2013 17:29 GMT
#66
go go KESPA.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
ftjust
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden43 Posts
December 29 2013 17:32 GMT
#67
i feel lika kespa is desperate and the whole organization to me feels like its a few people who are trying to make alot of money

corruption
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 29 2013 17:32 GMT
#68
They should really renew the sub, I'd gladly pay 5 or 10 bucks again to support them.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
OblivionMage
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada377 Posts
December 29 2013 17:48 GMT
#69
On December 30 2013 02:32 ftjust wrote:
i feel lika kespa is desperate and the whole organization to me feels like its a few people who are trying to make alot of money

corruption


They're trying to keep a league alive for a game that has a <1% marketshare (with no signs of it growing in popularity) and you think 'corruption' is the problem? Sure.
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
December 29 2013 17:57 GMT
#70
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 29 2013 17:59 GMT
#71
I dunno but actually that season opening went beyond my expectations. Im talking about the crowd in the first place (and also production). So hyped and so sincerely involved (Kal appearanse/his play/celebration etc). And overall. Gives me hope!
Less is more.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 29 2013 18:01 GMT
#72
On December 30 2013 02:57 Estancia wrote:
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.


Business-wise, SpoTV and GOM needs to partner up to broadcast GSL on SpoTV in order to reach a larger audience.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
December 29 2013 18:06 GMT
#73
On December 30 2013 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 02:57 Estancia wrote:
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.


Business-wise, SpoTV and GOM needs to partner up to broadcast GSL on SpoTV in order to reach a larger audience.


Best would be eSF and KeSPA joining forces.

Startale and the rest of eSF teams join Proleague. Proleague is run by SpoTV, broadcasted by SpoTV, casted by casters from GomTV for both English and Korean (I watched the Korean stream and seems like they don't like the new korean casters due to inexperience). GomTV runs GSL, SpoTV helps broadcast it within Korea, through both youtube, Korean websites and streaming sites like afreeca and naver, and also through TV.
Also, SpoTV running their own individual league once in a while will also help korean scene a lot more.

The only problem is I see very small chance of this happening.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
December 29 2013 18:13 GMT
#74
Appreciate the translation. I'm very excited for SPL this year
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 29 2013 18:16 GMT
#75
On December 30 2013 03:06 Estancia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On December 30 2013 02:57 Estancia wrote:
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.


Business-wise, SpoTV and GOM needs to partner up to broadcast GSL on SpoTV in order to reach a larger audience.


Best would be eSF and KeSPA joining forces.

Startale and the rest of eSF teams join Proleague. Proleague is run by SpoTV, broadcasted by SpoTV, casted by casters from GomTV for both English and Korean (I watched the Korean stream and seems like they don't like the new korean casters due to inexperience). GomTV runs GSL, SpoTV helps broadcast it within Korea, through both youtube, Korean websites and streaming sites like afreeca and naver, and also through TV.
Also, SpoTV running their own individual league once in a while will also help korean scene a lot more.

The only problem is I see very small chance of this happening.

They are former MBC guys + Canata. And they already did last year of SC2 Proleague. Lack of experience is the last thing you can say abou them.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 29 2013 18:20 GMT
#76
Ultimately if you truly believe that sc2 is an awesome game, you shouldnt be worried at all. If a game is good enough, fans will show up.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Estancia
Profile Joined July 2011
Korea (South)335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 18:21:21
December 29 2013 18:21 GMT
#77
On December 30 2013 03:16 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 03:06 Estancia wrote:
On December 30 2013 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On December 30 2013 02:57 Estancia wrote:
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.


Business-wise, SpoTV and GOM needs to partner up to broadcast GSL on SpoTV in order to reach a larger audience.


Best would be eSF and KeSPA joining forces.

Startale and the rest of eSF teams join Proleague. Proleague is run by SpoTV, broadcasted by SpoTV, casted by casters from GomTV for both English and Korean (I watched the Korean stream and seems like they don't like the new korean casters due to inexperience). GomTV runs GSL, SpoTV helps broadcast it within Korea, through both youtube, Korean websites and streaming sites like afreeca and naver, and also through TV.
Also, SpoTV running their own individual league once in a while will also help korean scene a lot more.

The only problem is I see very small chance of this happening.

They are former MBC guys + Canata. And they already did last year of SC2 Proleague. Lack of experience is the last thing you can say abou them.


Idk there were plenty of complaints on the korean stream that the commentary sucked though.
Zprit
Profile Joined July 2013
92 Posts
December 29 2013 18:30 GMT
#78
It did seem quite ... honest but couldn't that be a cultural thing, always being humble and things like that which isn't something you see very often in the western countries.

On December 30 2013 02:48 OblivionMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 02:32 ftjust wrote:
i feel lika kespa is desperate and the whole organization to me feels like its a few people who are trying to make alot of money

corruption


They're trying to keep a league alive for a game that has a <1% marketshare (with no signs of it growing in popularity) and you think 'corruption' is the problem? Sure.


Source? I love seeing numers like this
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 29 2013 18:30 GMT
#79
On December 30 2013 03:20 Xiphos wrote:
Ultimately if you truly believe that sc2 is an awesome game, you shouldnt be worried at all. If a game is good enough, fans will show up.

Is this another one of your passive aggressive shots at SC2? Most businesses don't make decisions based off of faith and putting out a press release explaining the delay of proleague isn't a bad thing. Thanks to this letter, I caught a couple games this morning while cleaning up the house.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 18:32:15
December 29 2013 18:32 GMT
#80
On December 30 2013 03:21 Estancia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 03:16 Ammanas wrote:
On December 30 2013 03:06 Estancia wrote:
On December 30 2013 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On December 30 2013 02:57 Estancia wrote:
I personally feel that watching the channel itself is already supporting the proleague. I think the view plays a major role in getting sponsorships and ads.
But of course we would want to pay extra to support the proleague. Maybe they should accept donations or sell merchandises? I'm very sure selling team jackets can earn lots of money, especially if they manage to handle overseas transaction and ship them overseas.

Also, I feel that proleague is basically the last life line for Korea SCII scene now. GSL itself isn't really going to cut it. Even better if SpoTV makes their own individual league, which will help korean scene further.
Also to mention that SpoTV also has its own TV station unlike GomTV, and that itself might help a lot in drawing in old and new fans in alike.


Business-wise, SpoTV and GOM needs to partner up to broadcast GSL on SpoTV in order to reach a larger audience.


Best would be eSF and KeSPA joining forces.

Startale and the rest of eSF teams join Proleague. Proleague is run by SpoTV, broadcasted by SpoTV, casted by casters from GomTV for both English and Korean (I watched the Korean stream and seems like they don't like the new korean casters due to inexperience). GomTV runs GSL, SpoTV helps broadcast it within Korea, through both youtube, Korean websites and streaming sites like afreeca and naver, and also through TV.
Also, SpoTV running their own individual league once in a while will also help korean scene a lot more.

The only problem is I see very small chance of this happening.

They are former MBC guys + Canata. And they already did last year of SC2 Proleague. Lack of experience is the last thing you can say abou them.


Idk there were plenty of complaints on the korean stream that the commentary sucked though.


If the Korean fans are anything like the foreign fans when it comes to appreciation of casting, I don't think it matters who's casting because some people will hate it anyway
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