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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 23 2013 22:18 GMT
#301
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 23 2013 22:22 GMT
#302
Just for fun Aligulac rates the teams in proleague format as
1. Jin Air Green Wings
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom T1
4. Incredible Miracle
5. Samsung Galaxy
6. KT Rolster
7. MVP
8. Prime
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 23 2013 22:23 GMT
#303
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/

I think byul could hold up and in the preparation heavy proleague it could be of benefit to MVP. Nestea and the new terran are probably going to be over their head for a while.
Glorious SEA doto
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
December 23 2013 22:26 GMT
#304
Look I don't care about the lineups but I am very disappointed on these name changes. All the new names are a downgrade from the previous ones except maybe Armani.

But man will I miss Bong


At least I hope there are some WACKY name changes during the season.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 23 2013 22:28 GMT
#305
On December 24 2013 07:26 Epamynondas wrote:
Look I don't care about the lineups but I am very disappointed on these name changes. All the new names are a downgrade from the previous ones except maybe Armani.

But man will I miss Bong


At least I hope there are some WACKY name changes during the season.


It's Korea. You can pretty much bet on it.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
December 23 2013 22:29 GMT
#306
every team is so stacked ....
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 22:29:37
December 23 2013 22:29 GMT
#307
On December 24 2013 07:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:26 Epamynondas wrote:
Look I don't care about the lineups but I am very disappointed on these name changes. All the new names are a downgrade from the previous ones except maybe Armani.

But man will I miss Bong


At least I hope there are some WACKY name changes during the season.


It's Korea. You can pretty much bet on it.

Monster > NAKSEO never forget
On December 24 2013 07:29 jax1492 wrote:
every team is so stacked ....

Prime pls
Glorious SEA doto
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
December 23 2013 22:31 GMT
#308
The wait for FPL is giving me panic attack.

will monk refund my xanax ?
RIP MKP
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
December 23 2013 22:36 GMT
#309
On December 24 2013 07:23 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/

I think byul could hold up and in the preparation heavy proleague it could be of benefit to MVP. Nestea and the new terran are probably going to be over their head for a while.


Hm yeah maybe there is hope, but in general all the ex esf teams look rather mediocre (with prime totally fucked at this point)
It feels like most of the top players are on "real kespa teams" or foreign teams these days Oo
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 23 2013 22:41 GMT
#310
On December 24 2013 06:14 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 06:12 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 24 2013 06:09 redviper wrote:
On December 24 2013 05:10 Grumbels wrote:
On December 24 2013 05:07 Zealously wrote:
I don't think we think that Maru is better than Flash, I'm pretty sure we know he is.

I'd easily bet for Flash to do better this season than Maru.


Haven't people been beating the Flash drum since last year? And yet he is totally invisible. I guess he won a few games in pro league but his team didn't even win the PL.


Won the most games in proleague...I dont like flash that much but give him the respect he's earned


But he didn't win anything. Winning games means nothing. Particularly if its only in PL. Winning tournaments deserves respect. Even Jaedong has now won something.

JD gets flown all over the world to play in foreign tournaments and plays in easy WCS NA. Flash had to deal with a Parting Life Innovation RO16 group while Jaedong got 2-0d by theognis in the first round of WCS NA Challenger and dropped a game to Drunkenboi.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
December 23 2013 22:42 GMT
#311
On December 24 2013 07:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:23 Fusilero wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/

I think byul could hold up and in the preparation heavy proleague it could be of benefit to MVP. Nestea and the new terran are probably going to be over their head for a while.


Hm yeah maybe there is hope, but in general all the ex esf teams look rather mediocre (with prime totally fucked at this point)
It feels like most of the top players are on "real kespa teams" or foreign teams these days Oo


Startale confirmed foreign team
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 22:44:35
December 23 2013 22:43 GMT
#312
On December 24 2013 07:42 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:23 Fusilero wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/

I think byul could hold up and in the preparation heavy proleague it could be of benefit to MVP. Nestea and the new terran are probably going to be over their head for a while.


Hm yeah maybe there is hope, but in general all the ex esf teams look rather mediocre (with prime totally fucked at this point)
It feels like most of the top players are on "real kespa teams" or foreign teams these days Oo


Startale confirmed foreign team


I said MOST of the top players, startale has bomber, i give you that

edit: and life ^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
December 23 2013 22:44 GMT
#313
On December 24 2013 07:22 Shellshock wrote:
Just for fun Aligulac rates the teams in proleague format as
1. Jin Air Green Wings
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom T1
4. Incredible Miracle
5. Samsung Galaxy
6. KT Rolster
7. MVP
8. Prime

I recall certain article on TL that was posted prior to last proleague season and had similar ratings (tl-eg on #1) :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18725 Posts
December 23 2013 22:50 GMT
#314
On December 24 2013 07:41 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 06:14 redviper wrote:
On December 24 2013 06:12 LongShot27 wrote:
On December 24 2013 06:09 redviper wrote:
On December 24 2013 05:10 Grumbels wrote:
On December 24 2013 05:07 Zealously wrote:
I don't think we think that Maru is better than Flash, I'm pretty sure we know he is.

I'd easily bet for Flash to do better this season than Maru.


Haven't people been beating the Flash drum since last year? And yet he is totally invisible. I guess he won a few games in pro league but his team didn't even win the PL.


Won the most games in proleague...I dont like flash that much but give him the respect he's earned


But he didn't win anything. Winning games means nothing. Particularly if its only in PL. Winning tournaments deserves respect. Even Jaedong has now won something.

JD gets flown all over the world to play in foreign tournaments and plays in easy WCS NA. Flash had to deal with a Parting Life Innovation RO16 group while Jaedong got 2-0d by theognis in the first round of WCS NA Challenger and dropped a game to Drunkenboi.


Jaedong was looking for his motivation which he found. Flash chose the easy way with the high salary and taken care of team house.
Give JD props for trying out something new.
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
December 23 2013 22:53 GMT
#315
On December 24 2013 07:44 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:22 Shellshock wrote:
Just for fun Aligulac rates the teams in proleague format as
1. Jin Air Green Wings
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom T1
4. Incredible Miracle
5. Samsung Galaxy
6. KT Rolster
7. MVP
8. Prime

I recall certain article on TL that was posted prior to last proleague season and had similar ratings (tl-eg on #1) :D

We don't talk about EGTL.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 23 2013 22:57 GMT
#316
On December 24 2013 07:53 Epamynondas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:44 esdf wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:22 Shellshock wrote:
Just for fun Aligulac rates the teams in proleague format as
1. Jin Air Green Wings
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom T1
4. Incredible Miracle
5. Samsung Galaxy
6. KT Rolster
7. MVP
8. Prime

I recall certain article on TL that was posted prior to last proleague season and had similar ratings (tl-eg on #1) :D

We don't talk about EGTL.


Unleashed a monster.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 23 2013 23:04 GMT
#317
On December 24 2013 07:44 esdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:22 Shellshock wrote:
Just for fun Aligulac rates the teams in proleague format as
1. Jin Air Green Wings
2. CJ Entus
3. SK Telecom T1
4. Incredible Miracle
5. Samsung Galaxy
6. KT Rolster
7. MVP
8. Prime

I recall certain article on TL that was posted prior to last proleague season and had similar ratings (tl-eg on #1) :D

Personally I don't think Jin Air will win it all but they are a KeSPA team so they will probably be pretty proleague focused so I think they will still do fairly well with their roster.
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
December 23 2013 23:13 GMT
#318
I need my FPL!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 23 2013 23:36 GMT
#319
On December 24 2013 07:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2013 07:42 Zealously wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:36 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:23 Fusilero wrote:
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/

I think byul could hold up and in the preparation heavy proleague it could be of benefit to MVP. Nestea and the new terran are probably going to be over their head for a while.


Hm yeah maybe there is hope, but in general all the ex esf teams look rather mediocre (with prime totally fucked at this point)
It feels like most of the top players are on "real kespa teams" or foreign teams these days Oo


Startale confirmed foreign team


I said MOST of the top players, startale has bomber, i give you that

edit: and life ^^

Your edit just saved you from death by Zealously.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 23 2013 23:39 GMT
#320
On December 24 2013 07:18 The_Red_Viper wrote:
If you have to play each race once IM has a pretty bad lineup, will be tough for them :/


not really bad, but it may be hard to break the playoffs now.

Byul really isn't getting enough credit and we still don't quite know how good UngNim is. I'd wager Mvp is probably still good in TvT (yay for mech!) and to snipe every now and then too.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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