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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:30 sharkie wrote: It may sound crazy but this might actually be the reason I did not miss PL at all... Whaddya mean, jaedong bandwagon fanboy slapfights were fun but you gotta have variety on your bandwagon slapfights, bisu is gone and stork is down for the count so it's just flash. | ||
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esdf
Croatia736 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:09 Zealously wrote: I don't have any concrete sources so if you have any I'd love to see them. I just can't (don't want to) believe that Yoda and First would both leave IM, as good as they are, with no other team interested in picking them up, to play WCS EU. It's all guesses to some extent at this point. I posted earlier: On December 23 2013 18:15 ZAiNs wrote: Secret info: I played against First on ladder in Europe, and Yoda was laddering too. WCS EU confirmed? On December 23 2013 18:28 ZAiNs wrote: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4234852/1/First/ http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4064798/1/yoda/ They both seem to be having internet stability issues and are leaving some games instantly. I didn't think it would be the real First until I saw that it was a new account and he was laddering the same time as an account called Yoda. Patience also is unsurprisingly playing in WCS Europe. You can see they both started laddering a few days ago. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:56 ZAiNs wrote: I posted earlier: You can see they both started laddering a few days ago. Oh I knew that part, we just don't know what the situation is with them and IM, do we? | ||
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monsta
172 Posts
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:10 Grumbels wrote: I'd easily bet for Flash to do better this season than Maru. Haven't people been beating the Flash drum since last year? And yet he is totally invisible. I guess he won a few games in pro league but his team didn't even win the PL. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On December 24 2013 06:09 redviper wrote: Haven't people been beating the Flash drum since last year? And yet he is totally invisible. I guess he won a few games in pro league but his team didn't even win the PL. Won the most games in proleague...I dont like flash that much but give him the respect he's earned | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:10 BisuDagger wrote: He's like 15 and he's wiping the floor right now. His middling performances came with WOL. He is a top HoTS terran and Flash is still trying to be single player on Brutal. Haha, that's a bit of an understatement of Flash's skill. He may not be a top 5 Terran right now, but he's certainly still extremely good, especially in Proleague. Top 10 Terran imo, 15 at absolute worst. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On December 24 2013 06:12 LongShot27 wrote: Won the most games in proleague...I dont like flash that much but give him the respect he's earned But he didn't win anything. Winning games means nothing. Particularly if its only in PL. Winning tournaments deserves respect. Even Jaedong has now won something. | ||
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On December 24 2013 06:09 redviper wrote: Haven't people been beating the Flash drum since last year? And yet he is totally invisible. I guess he won a few games in pro league but his team didn't even win the PL. Put any other player in Flash' position on that awful KT team and tell me they win PL. They dont even have a zerg player worth mentioning Also no Bisu  | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 24 2013 06:14 redviper wrote: But he didn't win anything. Winning games means nothing. Particularly if its only in PL. Winning tournaments deserves respect. Even Jaedong has now won something. Well that's just wrong. Winning tournaments isn't all that matters. I'd go as far as to say that winning games in impressive fashion (a la mid-2013 Innovation) is more impressive and does more for a player's reputation than "just" winning tournaments. Flash deserves respect for his Proleague performance, no doubt. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 24 2013 06:19 Grumbels wrote: Why does Flash have so many anti-fans? In SC2, what you refer to as "Flash anti-fans" are known as "Sensible human beings" | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On December 24 2013 05:06 Grumbels wrote: I'm just saying that you shouldn't overrate Maru and sOs based on recent performances, given that they spent a lot of time flying around the world having their play styles exposed instead of practicing, while players like Flash and TY didn't have a chance to showcase their skills. Actually this is just wrong. If you look at the tournaments, they attended, Maru has not a single tournament showing outside of WCS. Flash and sOs both attendet the WCS tournaments as well as IEM NY and DH Bucharest. This is the starting point, so as you can see, Flash and sOs are the ones travelling more than Maru. Now lets look at the differences, that came from their performances: -Both Maru and sOs outperform Flash during WCS Korea, which is the only reason, why they attend Season finals/Blizzcon -At DH, sOs makes top 6, qualifying for DH Winter. Flash loses to DIMAGA, YugiOh and MMA and gets eliminated in the group stages. So again, the only reason, that sOs attends the tourney and Flash does´nt, is because sOs outperformed Flash. - Finally, sOs received a seed for RB Battlegrounds, because he won Blizzcon, a tournament, Flash could´nt qualify for. So as you see, Flash had the same chance to show his talent as sOs did and even more than Maru. They just out-performed him at nearly every single tournament, they attended (The exception being WCS Kor season 2, were sOs got knocked out early, but WCS Korea S3, IEM and DH did go in sOs favor) On December 24 2013 05:06 Grumbels wrote: Maru does well for three months after three years of middling performances and people think he's better than Flash? This sentence confuses me. If I would say " Maru does well for three months after three years of middling performances and people think he's better than Inca/RainBOw?", people would laugh at me, but both, Inca and RainBOw are actually former GSL finalists, while Flash did´nt make the quarterfinal once. So, speaking in facts again: Maru is doing well since June. That is six months, not three. In this time, he made 5 WCS Korea/WCS Season Finals/Blizzcon/GSL HotSixcup semifinals.Flash could´nt make a WCS/GSL semi-final in his entire SC2 career. The "three years of middling performances" were, when he was 13, 14 and close to 15. Do you expect a 13-yo to dominate the scene? Probably not. The question should´nt be "people think Maru is better Flash?", it should be "People doubt that?". | ||
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Ziggles
United States3 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 24 2013 07:02 RaiKageRyu wrote: Holy crap Prime actually had 11 players? Most of them look like they probably come pretty cheap based on name value but yeah it was more than I thought they had. Hopefully the rookies can show some good games. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On December 24 2013 07:02 RaiKageRyu wrote: Holy crap Prime actually had 11 players? They have secret ninja recruiters posing as middle-schoolers all over korea | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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