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dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
December 13 2013 13:54 GMT
#41
Welcome back, brother!
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
TLWINDRUNNER
Profile Joined November 2013
36 Posts
December 13 2013 13:54 GMT
#42
Awe-inspiring commitment! #Foreigners
WINDRUNNER*
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 13 2013 13:58 GMT
#43
On December 13 2013 22:16 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.

People read the OP, but we don't believe him. He just figured out that Protoss wasn't as ez pz as he thought in all the match ups and switched back.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
December 13 2013 14:04 GMT
#44
Nice to see you come back to terran Sjow!

For someone like me that watches more streams than play watching your terran stream is awesome.

Don't take this in the wrong way but you being a "slow" player makes it really easy to follow you from your POV and learn.

RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
December 13 2013 14:10 GMT
#45
On December 13 2013 22:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:16 Faust852 wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.

People read the OP, but we don't believe him. He just figured out that Protoss wasn't as ez pz as he thought in all the match ups and switched back.


Because making up your own truth about someone on the internet is always better than listening to the person in question. TL.net in a nutshell.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 13 2013 14:11 GMT
#46
Saw that coming from a mile away. :D
Off-season = best season
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
December 13 2013 14:15 GMT
#47
I don't know why you refuse to working on mechanics. I really don't know.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 13 2013 14:16 GMT
#48
On December 13 2013 23:10 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:58 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:16 Faust852 wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.

People read the OP, but we don't believe him. He just figured out that Protoss wasn't as ez pz as he thought in all the match ups and switched back.


Because making up your own truth about someone on the internet is always better than listening to the person in question. TL.net in a nutshell.

It's not true, it's opinion. My opinion is Sjow got to the point where he would have to learn how to play Protoss for real and decided to back out. He didn't reach his goal and saw that it was a lot harder them he thought it was going to be. I won't believe Avilo either when he comes out with his excuse either.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
MidnightZL
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden203 Posts
December 13 2013 14:21 GMT
#49
SjoW, you will always be a Terran to me ;D You can never change that ;P It felt strange every time i watched your stream and you played Protoss But nice that you've tried to go for it imo, hope you not quitting the game anytime soon. We need good Terrans around like you here in Sweden, it's only Protoss here it seems.
- I'm fairly certain YOLO is just Carpe Diem for stupid people - Jack Black
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 14:24:26
December 13 2013 14:23 GMT
#50
On December 13 2013 23:10 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 22:58 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:16 Faust852 wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.

People read the OP, but we don't believe him. He just figured out that Protoss wasn't as ez pz as he thought in all the match ups and switched back.


Because making up your own truth about someone on the internet is always better than listening to the person in question. TL.net in a nutshell.


Your argument would have merit if not for the fact that SjoW is biased as hell, and made absolutely no attempt to hide it. I mean this entire thing came out of that bias. Part of the point of it was to try and "prove" this bias right.

If he'd plateaud and just couldn't progress then he'd weaken the position of Terran whining about how OP Protoss is. Doing it this way means said Terrans get to keep complaining about it whilst SjoW changes back to Terran because Protoss isn't as easy as he thought.


Truth is that only SjoW knows really why he switched back. But it is also true that there is literally no reason to trust what he says that reason is because he's here with an agenda.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
December 13 2013 14:25 GMT
#51
Not surprised PvP deterred you, that mu is a nightmare to learn.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
December 13 2013 14:27 GMT
#52
Glad to have ya back Sjow.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 13 2013 14:28 GMT
#53
Also, last time I checked he still doesn't use map hot keys. I don't know how he expects to do well against any high level player that uses them.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
drifteR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States8 Posts
December 13 2013 14:28 GMT
#54
I find it amusing how the polar opposite of #hardworkingprotoss is #quitterprotoss.
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
December 13 2013 14:31 GMT
#55
I really enjoyed watching you play protoss. Might as well at least stick it out to gm. Maybe next month zerg? haha wishful thinking. GL with mech.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
December 13 2013 14:34 GMT
#56
You could racepick like MorroW did, couldn't you?

Anyway, I think you have quit too fast. PvP is in my opinion the matchup that shows the versatility of the player the most, because sometimes it is very reliant on control and management, but there is also a huge amount of actual strategy in it. It is probably, with ZvZ the matchup that is easiest to lose because of just a slightly bad read on your oponent, but that is just the point of strategy - you have to be better than the other guy in thinking what exactly should you do know. If you consider this, it is natural that it's not easy to learn. In PvT and PvZ, you have some basic layout how you want to play the game and the ball is more often in your court that it isn't on what comes next, as the oponent is required to build his unit composition around yours, not the other way round. But in PvP, you have to always consider what your oponent does and what he will do - if you are one step behind, you lose and the ability to do this consistenly requires a long practice.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
December 13 2013 14:37 GMT
#57
On December 13 2013 22:26 Liquid`Ret wrote:
SjoW, I will have to show you soon I can get Terran GM in less than 2 weeks.

reasons :

imba


Oh shit it's on :D. But do an interview with Hotbid first!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
December 13 2013 14:38 GMT
#58
On December 13 2013 23:28 Plansix wrote:
Also, last time I checked he still doesn't use map hot keys. I don't know how he expects to do well against any high level player that uses them.

He obviously doesn't need them as Protoss
¯\_(シ)_/¯
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
December 13 2013 14:39 GMT
#59
On December 13 2013 23:23 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 23:10 RaZorwire wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:58 Plansix wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:16 Faust852 wrote:
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.

People read the OP, but we don't believe him. He just figured out that Protoss wasn't as ez pz as he thought in all the match ups and switched back.


Because making up your own truth about someone on the internet is always better than listening to the person in question. TL.net in a nutshell.


Your argument would have merit if not for the fact that SjoW is biased as hell, and made absolutely no attempt to hide it. I mean this entire thing came out of that bias. Part of the point of it was to try and "prove" this bias right.

If he'd plateaud and just couldn't progress then he'd weaken the position of Terran whining about how OP Protoss is. Doing it this way means said Terrans get to keep complaining about it whilst SjoW changes back to Terran because Protoss isn't as easy as he thought.


Truth is that only SjoW knows really why he switched back. But it is also true that there is literally no reason to trust what he says that reason is because he's here with an agenda.


Meh. Everyone is this thread is biased, so your post is kind of pointless. I have more reason to trust Sjow when it comes to the matter of his own motivations and actions than I have to trust anyone else in here. Using your logic, you could justify mistrusting virtually everyone in the community in virtually any situation, since more or less everyone has an agenda in most discussions.

I'm not saying everyone are always truthful about their motivations and that there can never be a reason to mistrust people, but unless you have something more tangible to go on than "he is biased so obviously he's lying", you havn't proven anything. Pointing out that someone is biased does not equal proving that they are lying. A rather simple concept that a lot of people on TL have massive problems grasping, for some reason.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 13 2013 14:40 GMT
#60
And he's back to the light! Welcome Back sjow
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