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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 13 2013 12:39 GMT
#21
Haha, PvP more frustrating than TvP apparently. Welcome back, we need more terrans in GM
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
December 13 2013 12:39 GMT
#22
Zerg next? :D
Freelancer veteran
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 13 2013 12:55 GMT
#23
Will be interesting to see how you feel about TvP now that you've seen both sides of the matchup (although not at the same level).
Flash | Mvp
VeTerrAn1
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland39 Posts
December 13 2013 13:06 GMT
#24
Conclusion:
The reason why he stopped trying is that 50% of the GM ladder are Protoss, so u have to play a lot PvP ^^ damn what a ironie ... haha protoss is IMBA in TvP, i think this is obvious for nearly everyone with a brain, and Protoss is broken in PvP, coinflip matchup? ... so blizzard its time to change something with brotosses

sjow's winrates were:

50% vs Zerg
75% vs Terran
50% vs Protoss

i think ^^

btw: for the very bright input from "Tosster": he was top master after 3 days or so he made huge improvements, and on GM Level all races are hard to play, but protoss has the advantage, only because of the fact that there are 45-50% Tosses in GM over all regions ...





User was temp banned for this post.
synd
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria586 Posts
December 13 2013 13:10 GMT
#25
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 13 2013 13:16 GMT
#26
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.

I think you are really stupid because you can't read the OP.
Candino
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation26 Posts
December 13 2013 13:23 GMT
#27
What a shame sjow.
More GG, more skill!!!
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
December 13 2013 13:25 GMT
#28
I think raceswitching in SC2 is really hard and takes a long time. This comes from the races being even more different to each other than in BW. You are playing at a completely different rhythm with each race and have to focus on completely different things. So I´m not surprised, that you give up on it, if you don´t want to take a several months long adaptation phase.
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:27:16
December 13 2013 13:26 GMT
#29
SjoW, I will have to show you soon I can get Terran GM in less than 2 weeks.

reasons :

imba
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Damian_SC2
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany8 Posts
December 13 2013 13:27 GMT
#30
On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.


so why tl mods dont ban this....?
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
December 13 2013 13:28 GMT
#31
Welcome back, man. Looking forward to seeing you play Terran too.

On December 13 2013 22:10 synd wrote:
wow, toss such ez, like really ez money.
13 days later = switching back to Terran.
lel

Sup, SjoW.
Please trash talk some more the successful toss players who practice more than you.


Please do the rest of us a favour and learn to read the OP before responding.


dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
December 13 2013 13:30 GMT
#32
A true terran cannot deny his allegiance to the terran brotherhood -- it was foolish to even try...
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10056 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:37:18
December 13 2013 13:31 GMT
#33
was getting owned by rotterdam the final nail in the coffin? denied by rotterdog oo?
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Tosster
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland299 Posts
December 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#34
On December 13 2013 21:24 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 21:23 Fliparoni wrote:
On December 13 2013 21:17 Tosster wrote:
You wouldn't make it, sorry Sjow. Not so "imba" eh?


If you'd bothered to truly read his post you'd know that it was mostly because of the PvP matchup that he's ending his Protoss experiment. His opinions on the other matchups remain unchanged.


Why would you bother explaining something so someone who is clearly missing his brain..

User was temp banned for this post.


Yeah, because you're believing in what someone wrote, without thinking... perfect brainiac example I would borrow you a bit, but you'd love intelligence too much.

User was temp banned for this post.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:37:13
December 13 2013 13:36 GMT
#35
On December 13 2013 21:55 Ctesias wrote:
Will be interesting to see how you feel about TvP now that you've seen both sides of the matchup (although not at the same level).

He didn't really see much of PvT, he blink all-inned most of the games, unless he changed it up the last few days.

On December 13 2013 22:31 TT1 wrote:
was getting owned by rotterdam the nail in the coffin? denied by rotterdog oo?
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This is one of the worst Yugioh cards ever .
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
December 13 2013 13:37 GMT
#36
On December 13 2013 22:26 Liquid`Ret wrote:
SjoW, I will have to show you soon I can get Terran GM in less than 2 weeks.

reasons :

imba

Please do.
And stream!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
QoYoTe
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden11 Posts
December 13 2013 13:37 GMT
#37
It was not fun Sjow, finally over.
"We have to get out of here! Nao!"
Darrkhan
Profile Joined February 2012
Finland1236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:46:39
December 13 2013 13:46 GMT
#38
Why are people getting banned for trash talking protoss but not getting banned when they trash talk SjoW? And why isn't SjoW getting banned when all other protoss haters are?

Too many questions.

GL SjoW I like you better as terran
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 13 2013 13:49 GMT
#39
Ah too bad, it was fun to watch his stream. He learned quickly and improved very fast, obviously he's an intelligent player. Only thing he consistently was poor at was macro, floating mass resources pretty quickly. I think the queuing from Terran might outweigh other advantages Protoss give him, but perhaps he just needed some more time to think about warping in every cycle and/or making other stuff. Regardless, I'm sad he stopped ;(! Good luck with Terran again anyways~!
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 13:53:28
December 13 2013 13:50 GMT
#40
THE SJOW MUST GO ON~~~!!!

We really need to be able to choose which matchups we want to play. Playing TvZ, ZvP, PvT would be a dream.
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