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Azelja
Japan762 Posts
On December 03 2013 23:18 Pirfiktshon wrote: Yea, the Terran players want him to succeed in doing this and the protoss players want him to fall flat on his face LOLOL so everyone has their reasons to watch Pretty much this  I bet if I drank the twitch chat for the session yesterday would have been highly entertaining. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9447 Posts
On December 03 2013 22:40 Lochland wrote: He's not at top master level. He was around mid-master (the position in the division is meaningless, you should consider his points). And from there to top 50 gm the journey is VERY long, expecially considering he have no clue about builds in PvP/PvZ and his mechanics can't carry him (since they are quite bad). He's a very smart guy and that helps a bit, but still it will be very hard to get top50. My prediction is : he will achieve GM in a month but not top50. It seems resonable.. Yeh I agree with that prediction. Low-mid GM is most realistic. | ||
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Marke
Sweden279 Posts
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VeTerrAn1
Switzerland39 Posts
good job, and beat Thorzain twice, but lost in the end 3-2 ... but i don't know what i should think about this, a pro switch race and barely can beat a long time pro with Terran (Thorzain)?? | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
I remember him saying "I would be Code S already if I was terran", then he switched to terran and made code S lol | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On December 04 2013 00:54 VeTerrAn1 wrote: SjoW after 5 hours at top of master league in NA ^^ good job, and beat Thorzain twice, but lost in the end 3-2 ... but i don't know what i should think about this, a pro switch race and barely can beat a long time pro with Terran (Thorzain)?? Not being funny but I'm pretty sure someone in Bronze league could have beaten Thorzain in that game 3 given how it went... Game 2 was slightly different, but Thorzain was still pretty greedy with the third CC. Bit of a weird game though, you get them sometimes. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:09 -Celestial- wrote: Not being funny but I'm pretty sure someone in Bronze league could have beaten Thorzain in that game 3 given how it went... Game 2 was slightly different, but Thorzain was still pretty greedy with the third CC. Bit of a weird game though, you get them sometimes. He had 4 cc right? 2 at the natural and 2 at the mainbase. + he did double upgrates | ||
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
On December 04 2013 00:58 ffadicted wrote: This reminds me of when Byun switched from Toss to Terran cuz he thought Terran was super OP. I remember him saying "I would be Code S already if I was terran", then he switched to terran and made code S lol And then Terran got nerfs and Byun hasn't been seen in a scene much. At least not in WCS. But hey, let's keep implying Terran is OP. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:30 plogamer wrote: And then Terran got nerfs and Byun hasn't been seen in a scene much. At least not in WCS. But hey, let's keep implying Terran is OP. Nobody denies that at time when ByuN switched Terran could be considered *kinda* OP. Not now though. Or ever in 2012. | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 03 2013 21:29 Green_25 wrote: The game is balanced at the highest levels noones denying that. PvT is a 55% last month. This is basically worse than in 1/1/1 domination period. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46208 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:34 keglu wrote: PvT is a 55% last month. This is basically worse than in 1/1/1 domination period. Nothing is worse than the 1/1/1 domination period, or GomTvTvTvTvT... | ||
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Vicissitude
Sweden28 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:24 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: He had 4 cc right? 2 at the natural and 2 at the mainbase. + he did double upgrates I was only half watching so I might have missed the fourth, I distinctly remember the third and thinking he was being pretty brave with trying that against a likely all-inning Protoss. Ye gods, and people are taking that seriously? X-D On December 04 2013 01:32 lolfail9001 wrote: Nobody denies that at time when ByuN switched Terran could be considered *kinda* OP. Not now though. Or ever in 2012. Plenty of people did and still do. I believe the argument was "they're just better!" which is a wonderful hand wave that's been used for years by a number of Terrans. Most recently at the start of Heart of the Swarm before things started getting nerfed. And I shudder to think of what you think truly imbalanced is if 62.5% of GSL Code S being Teran is only "kinda OP". ;P On December 04 2013 01:34 keglu wrote: PvT is a 55% last month. This is basically worse than in 1/1/1 domination period. Actually I'm pretty sure the 1/1/1 era had WAY higher Terran winrates than a mere 55%. Especially considering 55% is only borderline for there being a balance issue (i.e. has to be higher than that for it to even be considered as a potential problem). | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nothing is worse than the 1/1/1 domination period, or GomTvTvTvTvT... It's worse in terms of winrates. Your opinion does not change that. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:30 plogamer wrote: And then Terran got nerfs and Byun hasn't been seen in a scene much. At least not in WCS. But hey, let's keep implying Terran is OP. It's all about timelines and I don't think he was implying Terran is OP atm. He's talking about one moment in time. On December 04 2013 01:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nothing is worse than the 1/1/1 domination period, or GomTvTvTvTvT... It wasn't pretty to watch, that's for sure. | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On December 04 2013 02:07 -Celestial- wrote: I was only half watching so I might have missed the fourth, I distinctly remember the third and thinking he was being pretty brave with trying that against a likely all-inning Protoss. Ye gods, and people are taking that seriously? X-D Plenty of people did and still do. I believe the argument was "they're just better!" which is a wonderful hand wave that's been used for years by a number of Terrans. Most recently at the start of Heart of the Swarm before things started getting nerfed. And I shudder to think of what you think truly imbalanced is if 62.5% of GSL Code S being Teran is only "kinda OP". ;P Actually I'm pretty sure the 1/1/1 era had WAY higher Terran winrates than a mere 55%. Especially considering 55% is only borderline for there being a balance issue (i.e. has to be higher than that for it to even be considered as a potential problem). http://aligulac.com/reports/ Outside of march 2013 last time TvP was below 45% - November 2010. Im pretty sure 1/1/1 was later. | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 04 2013 01:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Nothing is worse than the 1/1/1 domination period, or GomTvTvTvTvT... During that time, everything just went poorly for Protoss. The top Protoss MC was slumping and had fallen to Code B, you had all these vP monsters running around, Bomber, Polt, MKP, and Coca (100% winrate vs. Protoss in 2011 GSL matches). Zergs had a tough time too, as you had these vZ monsters in Mvp, MMA and Nestea (cannibalizing the swarm). | ||
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Lochland
Italy26 Posts
On December 04 2013 00:36 Marke wrote: he has gm toss coach that tells him what builds to use and Sjow is smart. im sure he will be Gm in few days. and 50 in 1 week. Then he's not listening his coach (Runa?) since 90% of the build he's doing doesen't make that much sense... And top50 in a week ? Lol :D | ||
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scypio
Poland2127 Posts
"emp" - says Sjow. | ||
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