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The results were... interesting. For more serious interviews, make sure to check out our talks with sOs and PartinG!!
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TLNerd
Albania26 Posts
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keiko
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:48 KeikO wrote: anyone knows how tall parting is? 179cm/5'10 | ||
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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... | ||
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
When MC said "This is my last tournament" without immediately following it up with "in 2013," I was so sad  | ||
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kisoso
Bulgaria105 Posts
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Rescawen
Finland1028 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... it seems it is a big brother and small brother relationship, due to the amount of travelling together they have had. | ||
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jeri
Germany335 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2084 Posts
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sceroh
Belgium182 Posts
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... There is a an old somewhere of Killer gently patting Jaedong's head after a game. It was endearing and deeply disturbing all at once. Then again, the modern male ideal in the west is not very amenable to displays of affections between men, Korea just has a different culture. | ||
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GrimZeRo
United States113 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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umade
Sweden172 Posts
http://i.imgur.com/4GXuhcF.gif | ||
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Holdenintherye
Canada1441 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Who the fuck cares. | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Maybe they are just goofing around...? | ||
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lystier
China877 Posts
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Brycycle330
United States1 Post
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... You're "disturbed" by different cultural norms? Quite a strong word in my opinion. Try to be more open-minded. | ||
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ShoCkSC2
Germany340 Posts
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quebecman77
Canada133 Posts
You guys know if he got mental problem ? He also holds the hand all the time... That's very disturbing and destroy in my mind my view of ''parting'' By reading the interview he does .... Was thinking he was like really amazing full of confidence.... wow.... edit : please tell me that was a joke and he not like that in real life ? User was warned for this post | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... It's very weird in our western eyes, but in many asian cultures it is quite normal for male (platonic) friends to hold hands and even cuddle. | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Does "in no western country" mean, from your experience in all western countries? I don't think it is that weired unless there are serious homophobia problems around where you look. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... If seeing two men holding hands is "disturbing" to you, you might have a problem with homophobia. | ||
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quebecman77
Canada133 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:23 ACrow wrote: It's very weird in our western eyes, but in many asian cultures it is quite normal for male (platonic) friends to hold hands and even cuddle. Strange, you know if Asian got a bigger % of gay males and they are more accepting over there ? | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rCdJs.gif) | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
But I guess asians have shame associated that we in the west think is really strange. Is MC retiring? I saw the video earlier, and I didn't notice him telling anything about that. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:22 quebecman77 wrote: ....... Parting wtf dude, keep the head up ....MC make fun of him the time here....he looks like an autistic kid... You guys know if he got mental problem ? He also holds the hand all the time... That's very disturbing and destroy in my mind my view of ''parting'' By reading the interview he does .... Was thinking he was like really amazing full of confidence.... wow.... edit : please tell me that was a joke and he not like that in real life ? I am certain Parting will be crushed to learn that quebecman77 has now irrevocably changed his opinion on him. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:03 umade wrote: How about the last seconds after he fake slaps Parting? oh smix.. http://i.imgur.com/4GXuhcF.gif dat Smix face | ||
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Uncultured
United States1340 Posts
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ottosec
505 Posts
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... "Disturbing". Get out of here... | ||
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GWdeathscythe
Brazil1091 Posts
Btw.. that slap in the final + smix face lol. | ||
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habibe
Canada43 Posts
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... what?? yeah, totally disturbing :D what are you talking about... | ||
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quebecman77
Canada133 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:31 Squat wrote: I am certain Parting will be crushed to learn that quebecman77 has now irrevocably changed his opinion on him. Can edit my post fast maybe so he will not know ?? I'm kinda sad he will feel that way too but I'm honest... Guess he doesn't know I'm who anyway so that's okay,dont worry about him kind men !! | ||
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Zenith_Zaephyr
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This is exist not only in Korea but even the middle east, north africa, etc... There is a difference between sexual behavior and friendly behavior, that obviously is difficult to understand in the western world. Anyway, how is it that this is what people talk about. Isn't it more interesting to see that MC, even he shows a lot of confidence on stage, is in fact humble. And to see Parting goofing around gives him a cute aspect (cuz the soul train gives him a brutal aspect ha ha...) Nice video. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:59 Zenith_Zaephyr wrote: Anyway, how is it that this is what people talk about. Isn't it more interesting to see that MC, even he shows a lot of confidence on stage, is in fact humble. And to see Parting goofing around gives him a cute aspect (cuz the soul train gives him a brutal aspect ha ha...) Absolutely, MC seems to have a great attitude concerning his matches, despite all the cocky on-stage behavior. | ||
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CutTheEnemy
Canada373 Posts
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Moka
Canada942 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Open your mind and your eyes please, you're not the center of the world. And nice video :D | ||
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habibe
Canada43 Posts
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quidditch
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vidium
Romania222 Posts
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
actually, this is even more cool seeing it after the results.. pretty awesome. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:56 quebecman77 wrote: Can edit my post fast maybe so he will not know ?? I'm kinda sad he will feel that way too but I'm honest... Guess he doesn't know I'm who anyway so that's okay,dont worry about him kind men !! Parting is known to take these things quite personally, I think it would be a good idea on your part to get in touch with his team and ask to speak with him, so you can explain the situation. Since you both seem to possess a equally staggering mastery of the english language, I am confident he will understand. | ||
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
Me and one of my best mates cuddle and hold hands and hug and spoon while sleeping without us being gay. It's guy love between two guys. | ||
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GL999et1000
France229 Posts
MC looks like PartinG's big brother. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
MC looks genuinely pissed at Parting for being a douche loll. | ||
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Juicy Orange
Canada133 Posts
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FoShao
United States256 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Oddball28
Denmark2121 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2084 Posts
On November 26 2013 03:54 nkr wrote: Someone once said the reason the korean males act like that is because being homosexual is so unimaginable in their culture (which I guess is bad). It can't be misunderstood like in other places. I honestly don't think it's unimaginable, considering there is gay clubs in korea. Instead you could put it as simple as possible and say they're just comfortable with eachother nothing else. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On November 26 2013 04:28 Zealously wrote: I don't get people. They complain when Koreans "show no emotion" but are disturbed/frightened/unpleasantly surprised when they do show emotion in a way they're not comfortable with because of some silly and outdated social standard. If you found this video disturbing in any way, aside from the fact that the interview wasn't at least twice as long, please get over yourself. If someone's ignorant enough to buy into the robot Koreans stereotype, then it's unsurprising that they'd also have issues accepting cultural differences as well. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On November 26 2013 04:28 Zealously wrote: I don't get people. They complain when Koreans "show no emotion" but are disturbed/frightened/unpleasantly surprised when they do show emotion in a way they're not comfortable with because of some silly and outdated social standard. If you found this video disturbing in any way, aside from the fact that the interview wasn't at least twice as long, please get over yourself. Unfortunately the guy who posted his homophobic/dumb comment managed to get it in on the first page, so a lot of people are focused on that. Otherwise, I think it's a relatively small minority of people on here who find Korean affection "disturbing" (implying homosexual behavior and negative connotation). The irony of that poster is that most of us are aware that people who express critical feelings towards male affection (non-sexual) & homosexuals tend to harbor closeted homosexual feelings themselves. Being an asshole about such trivial things really just "outs" these people to the entire internet. Haha. The irony. | ||
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QzYSc2
Netherlands281 Posts
i can only guess insecurities, social expectances and ego-trippin alpha males trying to prove themselves in the western world , are the main factor for people to be disgusted by it. those are things something i don't see in asian culture as often. | ||
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GulpyBlinkeyes
United States1449 Posts
winner's | ||
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
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Demonized83
Italy5 Posts
Really guys, make a deal with your sexuality, cause you're surely have some homophobia problem...or maybe you're some really tough hairy asskicker dudes. We surely don't want to bother you... | ||
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Artunit
Philippines399 Posts
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AmuseD
Netherlands133 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
That being said; I love the video :D:D! | ||
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sigm
192 Posts
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Angelavenger
United States59 Posts
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izmatic
United States104 Posts
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zajeBEASTY
Poland40 Posts
and yeah definately they were just "guffing" around. | ||
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XinAn
129 Posts
I think PartinG is just being familiar and fidgety, you can see him picking at his own fingers too and MC's a friend and his fingers are right there. I do the exact same to my cousin's hand or my best friend's hands and no one ever bats an eyelash because I'm a girl. PartinG is just being human. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... And they are not from a Western Country, so what's the point of your "observation"? | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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EatThePath
United States3943 Posts
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TUski
United States1258 Posts
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19231 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... I want to have Synd's back a little because I think you guys are targeting him pretty hard. If you grow up in a place where such actions aren't seen between to people it's going to catch you off guard. I too grow up in a culture that really frowns upon that kind of interaction. And no matter how open minded I am and could careless how Parting and MC acted, to me personally I still have to think through what I'm seeing and tell myself it's not wrong. This IS the product of being around culturally unaccepting adults and having their voices in the back of my head. No one can change how they are raised, but they can certainly change their views on right and wrong. So, Synd doesn't need to be forced to share your views on the video. Feeling disturbed is the emotion that overcame him in the video and he straight up says it's a product of his up bringing. I'm sure he is capable of rationalizing everyone else's view points but because of the way he was raised that's how he interprets what he saw. On topic, I think it was great to see them being so friendly. Although I was let down by the lack of participation from SoS. | ||
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LuckyLuke43
Norway169 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... This is common practice in arab countries actually. Where we see it as romantic affection or a parent/child thing, there it's considered an act of friendship. You'll regularly see two buddies walking down the street holding hands. It's kinda weird seeing it at first, but you get over it ^^, Not at all sure this is of any prominence in any asian country tho. I'll go ask google right away! *GOOGLE EDIT* So, I just enlightened myself! It's actually way common is east asia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. | ||
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marcesr
Germany1383 Posts
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SonGoku
Germany152 Posts
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RyLai
United States477 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Of course it's not considered normal! It's considered troll. I remember Machine sitting on someone's lap before to troll. (Pretty sure it was Machine, cause he's the smallest.) His girlfriend was there too. It's just what close friends that are confident in their sexual orientation do to troll. Just my observation. If you're not confident of your sexuality, you may not want to try it. | ||
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Daogin
Canada2308 Posts
On the up side I love how friendly all the koreans seem to be with each other a lot of them are really close and it makes me happy to see! | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On November 26 2013 06:12 sigm wrote: . . . seriously, what the flying fuck was Parting doing with MC's hand? It's the kind of thing a girlfriend does to her boyfriend when she's feeling playful, or maybe a small child to a parent when they're bored or something. Not sure which of these relations do Parting and MC share. Gonna just start calling these closet homosexuals out on their hypocrisy and aggression on something so trivial and platonic as holding hands in a freaking interview. No one on here cares if you're gay, sigm. It's 2013. No need to pretend like you're something you're not. If you were not a closeted gay person, you would not be so invested in or "disturbed" by seeing two males holding hands in a platonic manner. People who are not gay do not care about things like this - it means nothing to them because they aren't abnormally focused on trying to determine what is or is not homosexual behavior. There's a thread for you if you want to come out of the closet, here: Gay Starcraft Players For reference, here's a famous, obviously closeted homosexual who was "disturbed" enough by gay people to create a camp to "cure" them: Michelle Bachmann's Husband (Daily Show) | ||
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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The Pale King
33 Posts
I met Parting in Korea. He lost his match and I gave him a hug. I was shocked when he hugged me back- he's actually a PERSON!! | ||
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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mihajovics
179 Posts
disturbing? of course not. | ||
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dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On November 26 2013 07:48 RyLai wrote: Of course it's not considered normal! It's considered troll. I remember Machine sitting on someone's lap before to troll. (Pretty sure it was Machine, cause he's the smallest.) His girlfriend was there too. It's just what close friends that are confident in their sexual orientation do to troll. Just my observation. If you're not confident of your sexuality, you may not want to try it. They are not trolling. It's just very different in Korean culture. There are seriously Koreans who sincerely believe there are no homosexual koreans whatsoever. And that if there are homosexual koreans it's from a disease foreigners bring. It's on that level, that's why you will see a lot of Koreans hugging / holding hands without actually having it mean anything except for friendship. It is changing very quickly with the younger generations. But the fact that some older koreans sincerely believe that homosexuality within their people is nonexistant, should tell you enough. You can't actually compare Western hetero/homo culture with Korean whatsoever. It's insanely different. If you go to Korea you would think that like 99% of the population was homosexual or something. When the ones that actually are, are hiding it from the public. Coming out may cost you your job. This is Leenock with Polt, Hero, Gumiho and Center. He was also pretty famous for cuddling with MKP / JYP. Just have to accept that they have different culture norms. (The reason I know a bit about it (far from all) is because I'm gay myself and wanted to know their LGBT-culture since I saw so many of them holding hands / hugging in public. So I decided to read up on it instead of getting "knowledge" based on my own assumptions.) | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... Disturbing is a strong word.. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
MC MC ALWAYS MC !!! xD | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Foxyshazam
United States38 Posts
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
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zimz
United States510 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
this thread reads like a 5th grader argument lol | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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Champi
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The Bastion
Netherlands12 Posts
I want to have Synd's back a little because I think you guys are targeting him pretty hard. If you grow up in a place where such actions aren't seen between to people it's going to catch you off guard. I too grow up in a culture that really frowns upon that kind of interaction. And no matter how open minded I am and could careless how Parting and MC acted, to me personally I still have to think through what I'm seeing and tell myself it's not wrong. This IS the product of being around culturally unaccepting adults and having their voices in the back of my head. No one can change how they are raised, but they can certainly change their views on right and wrong. I think the majority of the people were tripping over the word 'disturbed' which is rather strong and I definitely do not feel that way, however I fully agree with you that automatically calling that person a closeted homosexual is a pointless harmful statement fed by the political-correctness-gone-mad-virus that seems to dominate the "western" societies nowadays. Now, again, I am not saying I was disturbed, however the hand-fiddling did intrigue me. The behavior we display has an underlying meaning/explanation, and those meanings of certain behaviorisms might and probably do differ greatly in various cultures. The behavior of Parting and MC in this interview is an example of social behavior that I have not encountered too often and just makes me wonder whether "the meaning" that I subconsciously assign to that, reflect the reality. Since it is a different culture, it probably does not. It still leaves me interested and wanting to know. Now before the shit storm hits, trying to understand their social interaction/relation does not mean I am judging let alone condemning anything. The heavy response on the much discussed post was, as said, probably due to the rather harsh and inconsiderate formulation, but! I think that just asking any kind of questions about this situation would have incited the same kind of responses we have seen throughout this thread. If it would have been a girl and a guy and someone would have asked whether there was some romantic tension, no one would have batted an eyelid. On topic: I absolutely loved the interview. Unlike many other interviews where the programers tend to give standard (dull) answers to similar questions, this was actually very interesting and entertaining | ||
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JShark
Korea (South)15 Posts
It's common to see male friends holding hands and linking arms. It's also common to see male friends sitting on the laps of other males with the person behind hugging the person in front. This is not being homosexual, this is a show of close bonding. The meaning is nothing more than one of trust and closeness. Very commonly males will slap each other on their bums to show friendship. Additionally, in the workplace it is common for a boss to put his hand on the leg of an individual lower in the hierarchy to show that he's looking after him or that they're friends. Rubbing legs is common too. An additional example would be, in schools it is totally acceptable for a student to give a teacher a back or hand massage be they male or female. Leading from this, the majority of students have their teachers added on social networking such as LINK app or Kakao Talk. | ||
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The Bastion
Netherlands12 Posts
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bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
In regards to synd's comment - my problem with it was the conclusive nature of the statement. "In no Western country" - huge generalisation and ultimately entirely incorrect. | ||
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SCST
Mexico1609 Posts
On November 26 2013 10:23 The Bastion wrote: *snip* If it would have been a girl and a guy and someone would have asked whether there was some romantic tension, no one would have batted an eyelid. False equivalency. Community is criticizing those individuals who are stating that they are "disturbed" by behavior wrongly interpreted as homosexual in nature. These posters are: a) stupid, as the behavior is clearly platonic and not gay b) homophobic, as they are insinuating that there is a basis for affectionate male-male behavior being "disturbing" c) possibly not confident in their own sexuality, as it's not uncommon to see closeted gay people lash out like this No one in the thread is questioning whether or not there is romantic tension. Just a couple people pushing their homophobic agenda on the TL forums. Nothing new really. Heh. | ||
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nFo
Canada56 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
"Distracting" just means to draw attention unnecessarily and doesn't have a strong emotional connotation | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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GoldforGolden
China102 Posts
honestly it's just parting messing around with MC. I am surprised MC and Parting are actually getting along quite well, I always though Parting personality would get into trouble with other pros (especially those who have a strong personality like MC) since he is quite cocky lol | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
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luckystriker
Thailand21 Posts
Yes, physical affection between close male friends is common. Sitting on each other's lap, putting arms around shoulders, linking arms when walking. Physical violence between friends is ALSO a sign of a close bond. So the older (always and only the older) can give the younger a slap. All these actions are common cultural norms and don't deserve a second mention. However, I do have a problem with some ppl saying that cuddling or holding hands is acceptable as I think it might lead to a misunderstanding for some westerners. We need to be clear that it’s also an age thing. After a certain age, holding hands with interlinking fingers, like one would do with their bf/gf, is not acceptable. Cuddling as in hugging in the theatre or on a bed, is not acceptable. Also, it looked obvious to me that Parting and MC weren’t holding hands. Parting was just playing with MC's hands and fingers. If you're a westerner you might find that distracting or disconcerting (it shouldn’t be disturbing). As an Asian I just found it annoying, and apparently, so did MC, because he shook off Parting and gave him an annoyed look after a short time. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44257 Posts
The amount of Protoss Awesomeness on that couch... O.O | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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myminerals
560 Posts
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eonDE
Canada371 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On November 26 2013 13:33 luckystriker wrote: Guess I'll add my cents since i live in SE Asia. Yes, physical affection between close male friends is common. Sitting on each other's lap, putting arms around shoulders, linking arms when walking. Physical violence between friends is ALSO a sign of a close bond. So the older (always and only the older) can give the younger a slap. All these actions are common cultural norms and don't deserve a second mention. However, I do have a problem with some ppl saying that cuddling or holding hands is acceptable as I think it might lead to a misunderstanding for some westerners. We need to be clear that it’s also an age thing. After a certain age, holding hands with interlinking fingers, like one would do with their bf/gf, is not acceptable. Cuddling as in hugging in the theatre or on a bed, is not acceptable. Also, it looked obvious to me that Parting and MC weren’t holding hands. Parting was just playing with MC's hands and fingers. If you're a westerner you might find that distracting or disconcerting (it shouldn’t be disturbing). As an Asian I just found it annoying, and apparently, so did MC, because he shook off Parting and gave him an annoyed look after a short time. May i ask who you are to deside on how people should show effection on one another ? This is all nitpicking on 2 korean men who have a close connection with another in a culture that is accepting of that matter. We in the west may find it strange, but for them so are many or our cultural traits. People in the west in general have no problems when 2 korean men hug or hold hands. Those that do have to look at themselfs, there is no reason for asians to change there way of effection for the simple fact that "perhaps western might not like this" ! It's there culture and perhaps even yours, i mean really what's the big problem ? | ||
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Pegas
Romania211 Posts
Also stop living under a rock and see the world for what it is. | ||
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CloudMage
Canada221 Posts
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actionbastrd
Congo598 Posts
On November 26 2013 15:41 eonDE wrote: Guys, that's a fake slap. He's just slapping the back of his own hand, which produces the sound of a slap. It's such an old play. I am pretty sure everyone could see that. What should they say instead of, "OMG that slap was hilarious!"? Should it be "OMG that fake slap on the back of his own hand was hilarious!"? First one is better i think. This video was hilarious tho, made me like MC even more, he looked like the boss in all of that interview. Even without winning in over a year. Was surprised to see MC just flat out admit his pvp is bad and it will be impossible for him to win. I guess MC knew partings winrate right now too. Still, props on keeping it real and always putting on the show. | ||
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PandaTank
South Africa255 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:23 blackone wrote: If seeing two men holding hands is "disturbing" to you, you might have a problem with homophobia. Indeed. Me and my friends would have absolutely no problem doing this. And our culture is as western as it gets. Although I don't think it really has that much to do with East vs West. I can bet there's also plenty of easterners from the older generations that would look down upon what they are doing. Your statement is merely a testament to the fact that bigots love to project their own insecurities onto other people in fear of being judged for something that they perceive to be wrong because of closed-mindedness. | ||
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ottosec
505 Posts
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
I really like Parting now, the pervert liar, and it was so funny how he lied that MC was gonna win while trying to hold his laugh back. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:18 Brycycle330 wrote: You're "disturbed" by different cultural norms? Quite a strong word in my opinion. Try to be more open-minded. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
Alright... to be fair, the guy's from Bulgaria, so English isn't his first language. Maybe he didn't really understand the implications of the word "disturbed". | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Muffinman53
571 Posts
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Khai
Australia551 Posts
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TheGrayGhost
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... How is that disturbing? | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On November 26 2013 16:03 Lysanias wrote: May i ask who you are to deside on how people should show effection on one another ? This is all nitpicking on 2 korean men who have a close connection with another in a culture that is accepting of that matter. We in the west may find it strange, but for them so are many or our cultural traits. People in the west in general have no problems when 2 korean men hug or hold hands. Those that do have to look at themselfs, there is no reason for asians to change there way of effection for the simple fact that "perhaps western might not like this" ! It's there culture and perhaps even yours, i mean really what's the big problem ? Dude, you completely misread his post. He is just talking about HIS culture, not the decision he just made. He lives in SE Asia(as he stated and as it says in his profile) and he explained how things work there. He didn't decide on anything, just provided further explanation. Stop all that accusation bs, of course people saying other cultures are disturbing are stupid, but we shouldn't need 7 pages to point that out. It completely takes away from the topic which is the content from the video. | ||
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SpaghettiD
Hong Kong5 Posts
On November 26 2013 02:23 ACrow wrote: It's very weird in our western eyes, but in many asian cultures it is quite normal for male (platonic) friends to hold hands and even cuddle. No,it's not,trust me.It's weird if male friends do that. | ||
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
On November 26 2013 23:02 VieuxSinge wrote: I'm lost, what is the Soul Train? Immortal-sentry all in that PartinG was famous for using against Zergs last year. The name originates from this GSL interview: "I am at a different class when it comes to immortal all ins (laughs). What's different about me than other players is that I put my soul in to my plays. My plays are stronger cause I put my soul in to them." | ||
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Littlesheep
Canada217 Posts
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
On November 26 2013 23:49 LockeTazeline wrote: Immortal-sentry all in that PartinG was famous for using against Zergs last year. The name originates from this GSL interview: Thanks! but why "Train" then? | ||
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
Stuchiu. Probably. | ||
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10bulgares
352 Posts
Maybe because the immortals and the sentries go across the map, they tend to be aligned in a file like the wagons of a train. That's my interpretation though. | ||
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0mg_t1red
Russian Federation104 Posts
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xpldngmn
Austria264 Posts
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Ncutable
Romania99 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Train | ||
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GnoM
Norway145 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On November 26 2013 21:53 KeksX wrote: Dude, you completely misread his post. He is just talking about HIS culture, not the decision he just made. He lives in SE Asia(as he stated and as it says in his profile) and he explained how things work there. He didn't decide on anything, just provided further explanation. Stop all that accusation bs, of course people saying other cultures are disturbing are stupid, but we shouldn't need 7 pages to point that out. It completely takes away from the topic which is the content from the video. It is you unfortunatly that read it wrong, here is a person who has problems with men hugging and holding hands, for a silly excuse that it might be misunderstand for foreigners ? Come on. It's far from BS it's actualy a topic that deserves to be reply'd to, and is reletive to this very video. | ||
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hatespam
Romania161 Posts
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On November 28 2013 01:23 hatespam wrote: this he just bitchslap him? nice.. MC put his other hand right in front of Parting's head before he slapped him, thus creating a slapping noise without actually hitting Parting. On November 27 2013 19:12 Lysanias wrote: It is you unfortunatly that read it wrong, here is a person who has problems with men hugging and holding hands, for a silly excuse that it might be misunderstand for foreigners ? Come on. It's far from BS it's actualy a topic that deserves to be reply'd to, and is reletive to this very video. No, you're the one misunderstanding. He didn't say he has a problem with Asian guys holding hands or hugging each other, he said he has a problem with people saying that it is part of Asian culture for men to hold hands and hug because they are wrong and could mislead other foreigners into thinking that is normal in platonic Asian relationships. He also specifically said that men holding each other's hands should not be considered disturbing. Disconcerting, maybe, because that is something we aren't used to seeing in public in the West, but definitely not disturbing. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
HolyArrow summed it up splendidly: On November 26 2013 18:31 HolyArrow wrote: Alright... to be fair, the guy's from Bulgaria, so English isn't his first language. Maybe he didn't really understand the implications of the word "disturbed". But,... On November 27 2013 19:12 Lysanias wrote: It is you unfortunatly that read it wrong, here is a person who has problems with men hugging and holding hands, for a silly excuse that it might be misunderstand for foreigners ? Come on. It's far from BS it's actualy a topic that deserves to be reply'd to, and is reletive to this very video. The plot thickens.  (EDIT: I guess this is a bump. Hwoops. | ||
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SorrowShine
698 Posts
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On November 26 2013 01:52 synd wrote: I find it disturbing how Parting holds MC's hand all the time while sitting on Reis' leg. In no western country, will this be considered normal for a straight male. Just my observation... U will find the same thing in India. Its a sign of respect / brotherly love. Not all countries are as homophobic as Europe. | ||
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Lochland
Italy26 Posts
On December 07 2013 02:54 SoniC_eu wrote: U will find the same thing in India. Its a sign of respect / brotherly love. Not all countries are as homophobic as Europe. Actually both Korea and India are way more homofobic then every europe country... | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
On December 07 2013 03:02 Lochland wrote: Actually both Korea and India are way more homofobic then every europe country... I speak as being originally from India. What are you basing your statement on that India is homophobic? | ||
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