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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 22 2013 16:34 GMT
#41
Poor sOs, he did so well this year, but unfortunately few people care. Pity
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
November 22 2013 16:44 GMT
#42
the spirit of the silver curse marinekong prime inherited from the one true kong yellow has now passed on to jaekong as his predecessor has switched to lol "retired" and the silver throne is in need of an occupant
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1839 Posts
November 22 2013 16:48 GMT
#43
lmao at people trying to diminish sOs skill and his accomplishment. 1st place at the global finals speaks for itself.

How can you quantify an incredible stupid statement like " dear is a true protoss and sOs is just lucky and does weird builds"

Give me a break.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 22 2013 16:51 GMT
#44
On November 23 2013 01:48 Ctone23 wrote:
lmao at people trying to diminish sOs skill and his accomplishment. 1st place at the global finals speaks for itself.

How can you quantify an incredible stupid statement like " dear is a true protoss and sOs is just lucky and does weird builds"

Give me a break.


There exists a mentality that only "macro games" are real games, not mindgames and weird strategies. There are many people who would rather have a mindless player who just hones mechanics rather than a player who thinks and plans out ways to catch the opponent off guard and make them uncomfortable.

In the end, you play to win, not play to get 4 bases and achieve a mineral income > 2k per minute.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Guileful
Profile Joined November 2012
Kazakhstan137 Posts
November 22 2013 16:53 GMT
#45
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
November 22 2013 17:23 GMT
#46
On November 23 2013 01:53 Guileful wrote:
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS

It's not like sOs plays Protoss in one of the most hilarious ways to play it.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
November 22 2013 17:30 GMT
#47
Yeah why is no one remembering that sHy and Jaedong used to be teammates on Hwaseung Oz/Team 8 xd
Incubus1993
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 17:35:14
November 22 2013 17:34 GMT
#48
I'm so happy an unorthodox, build themed, actual strategy oriented player won the biggest championship this year. He's entertaining to watch and that's what matters. Hopefully that's the main reason people watch SC2, and furthermore play it. I like the big names, but it just gets boring sometimes watching the same strategy executed as well as possible win over and over again, like how the majority of Terran and Zerg players win. It likely just the design of the races, but really how often do you see the best Zerg or Terran players pull out specialized builds against certain opponents on certain maps? It's standard a majority of the games and trying their best to make it work.
"I like to keep an open mind, but not so open my brains fall out."
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#49
Also, sOs played sick macro games in his PvTs and PvP against Polt, Bomber and HerO.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-22 17:41:43
November 22 2013 17:40 GMT
#50
On November 23 2013 01:53 Guileful wrote:
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS


low on fans? Were you expecting for him to get as many fans as jaedong has over the course of his entire career in only a few tournaments and his offerings in PL? I don't think so. The reaction was the same for when soulkey lost to dear. you guys don't like protoss we get it but you said the same shit about a lot of other protoss players while they did there thing which was winning.

In terms of entertainment and the current state of the game. There aren't that many players as entertaining as this guy. He delivers the goods.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
November 22 2013 18:01 GMT
#51
On November 22 2013 19:00 CutTheEnemy wrote:
Caster Bias.

Consider the Blizzcon finals- the casters sang the song of the Tyrant, and followed his story. sOs was his latest hurdle. How could sOs by a hyped player if he was not hyped?

What? You mean Jaedong was not playing the finals vs the AI?
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 22 2013 18:10 GMT
#52
I'm an hipster-fan !
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 22 2013 18:12 GMT
#53
On November 23 2013 03:01 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 19:00 CutTheEnemy wrote:
Caster Bias.

Consider the Blizzcon finals- the casters sang the song of the Tyrant, and followed his story. sOs was his latest hurdle. How could sOs by a hyped player if he was not hyped?

What? You mean Jaedong was not playing the finals vs the AI?


Not like we didn't know the caster's failure beforehand. Reoccurring themes man.
monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
November 22 2013 18:13 GMT
#54
imagine if JD had won his tournament.. god why am I not in this other dimension
robertpires87
Profile Joined October 2013
Northern Ireland87 Posts
November 22 2013 18:17 GMT
#55
Considering he help Dear prepares against Soo, SoS is quite legit. With the strength of protoss now, RBB is his to lose
chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
November 22 2013 18:25 GMT
#56
On November 23 2013 01:51 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 01:48 Ctone23 wrote:
lmao at people trying to diminish sOs skill and his accomplishment. 1st place at the global finals speaks for itself.

How can you quantify an incredible stupid statement like " dear is a true protoss and sOs is just lucky and does weird builds"

Give me a break.


There exists a mentality that only "macro games" are real games, not mindgames and weird strategies. There are many people who would rather have a mindless player who just hones mechanics rather than a player who thinks and plans out ways to catch the opponent off guard and make them uncomfortable.

In the end, you play to win, not play to get 4 bases and achieve a mineral income > 2k per minute.

Sure, he plays to win with cheese and weirdness.
I did not say for a moment that he has no right to cheese, or that players should play for things other than winning.

I just said I don't find such wins impressive or entertaining, and that they aren't the mark of a champion like MVP (who occasionally does use cheese/weird builds, but not all the time and not as a replacement for mechanics/micro/tactics).

I suppose you prefer shitty games you can catch on silver NA to intense micro battles between players like Maru and Dear.
Makes perfect sense to me.
The game is balanced. We just suck.
chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
November 22 2013 18:26 GMT
#57
On November 22 2013 20:22 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2013 19:59 chairmobile wrote:
Because his wins aren't through astounding micro or amazing mechanics. They're just weird. That's all. He does weird stuff and wins, in a freaking inconsistent manner (winning blizzcon after being completely absent post season 1? Give me a break).

I'm really not impressed by crossing your fingers and hoping your opponent doesn't look in the right place. Cannon rushes can be executed by silver league players for christ's sake.

Dear, on the other hand, shows people what a truly skilled Protoss looks like. sOs pales in comparison.

No, all that can be executed by silver league players are unsubstantiated claims like yours and whining about "cheese". The only way someone would think sOs wins through crossing his fingers is by not understanding his brilliance.

Wow, nice substantiated claim there. You call me a whiner, call sOs a genius, and declare victory.

I see a lot of evidence and reasoning and logic there, bro. Excellent argumentation!
The game is balanced. We just suck.
chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
November 22 2013 18:32 GMT
#58
On November 23 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 01:53 Guileful wrote:
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS


low on fans? Were you expecting for him to get as many fans as jaedong has over the course of his entire career in only a few tournaments and his offerings in PL? I don't think so. The reaction was the same for when soulkey lost to dear. you guys don't like protoss we get it but you said the same shit about a lot of other protoss players while they did there thing which was winning.

In terms of entertainment and the current state of the game. There aren't that many players as entertaining as this guy. He delivers the goods.

Really? I'd say Dear, Maru, Taeja, JD, bomber, polt, Life, Soulkey, hell, half of the rest of the top 20 WCS are easily as entertaining, if not more. But maybe that's because I prefer drawn out games that are determined by skill and multitasking, not predetermined by weird strats and scouting and whether JD practiced against some weird unit comp.

But that's probably a fault on my part, right?
The game is balanced. We just suck.
chairmobile
Profile Joined July 2013
United States111 Posts
November 22 2013 18:35 GMT
#59
On November 23 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 01:53 Guileful wrote:
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS


low on fans? Were you expecting for him to get as many fans as jaedong has over the course of his entire career in only a few tournaments and his offerings in PL? I don't think so. The reaction was the same for when soulkey lost to dear. you guys don't like protoss we get it but you said the same shit about a lot of other protoss players while they did there thing which was winning.

In terms of entertainment and the current state of the game. There aren't that many players as entertaining as this guy. He delivers the goods.

That's bullshit. I dislike protoss in general, including Dear, but I would be an absolute idiot to ignore Dear's flawless defenses, crisp macro and multitasking, and amazing engagements / tactics.

Stop trying to generalize the community as just hating protoss. Nobody hates sOs - he's just not very impressive in his play compared to the rest of blizzcon. My reaction to soulkey being beaten by dear was, "oh well, dear played better".

My reaction to sOs - JD was "fucking really man? _sOs_ is the global champion after that shit final?"
The game is balanced. We just suck.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 22 2013 18:36 GMT
#60
It really feels like people didn't even bother watching sOs' PvTs at Blizzcon.
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