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Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
November 20 2013 23:41 GMT
#101
I don't see anything wrong with any of this.
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
November 20 2013 23:42 GMT
#102
Looks really good, hopefully it pans out well! I wonder if many tournaments will be willing to put up the 75k in order to be a top tier independent event. Seems pretty un-likely, considering the decline in prize pools over the past year.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
November 20 2013 23:42 GMT
#103
Wow, all these changes seem so good and smart. Loving it so far.
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
November 20 2013 23:42 GMT
#104
thank you so much for this blizzard.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
November 20 2013 23:42 GMT
#105
I think this is actually really really good. Especially the partial region lock and money for top 32 in challenger. That's really going to encourage people to keep playing to compete in their regional WCS. Which is only a good thing for growth of the scene.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
November 20 2013 23:42 GMT
#106
On November 21 2013 08:40 Vindicare605 wrote:
So if I'm understanding this correctly, the only way that Koreans can compete now outside of Korea is through the Ladder Wildcard matches.

Man, the North American ladder is going to be brutal soon.


Yes, except that the Koreans already in Premiere/Challenger are grandfathered in. And to be honest, it's going to be kind of tough to knock them out given that their competition will mostly be non-Koreans. Still, this is probably a fair way to do it. Having a single Bo5 in Challenger League will give non-Koreans the chance to practice for and snipe their Korean opponents.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:46:35
November 20 2013 23:43 GMT
#107
This looks promising, I have to say a job well done Blizzard!

Edit: The 6/4 Wildcards in Europe will make the ladder interesting, it's an awesome idea!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:45:02
November 20 2013 23:43 GMT
#108
On November 21 2013 08:40 fezvez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:37 SAFenix wrote:
So prize pool for KR just went up like 3.3X


Hmmm, I just checked, isn't it just +50%? (a substantial increase, but nowhere close to *3.3)

It went from 20,000$ to ~66,000$? That certainly isn't 50%.

EDIT: I think he meant 1st place. Overall prizes are +50%.
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Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
November 20 2013 23:44 GMT
#109
I like this, I like this a lot. Good job blizzard
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
November 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#110
As predicted: Every time Blizzard does something the first time, they fuck it up. And then, the second time around, they learn from their mistakes and do a much better job.

Nice.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
November 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#111
On November 21 2013 08:43 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:40 fezvez wrote:
On November 21 2013 08:37 SAFenix wrote:
So prize pool for KR just went up like 3.3X


Hmmm, I just checked, isn't it just +50%? (a substantial increase, but nowhere close to *3.3)

It went from 20,000$ to ~66,000$? That certainly isn't 50%.


The first place prize went up a lot, but the other prizes went down somewhat (article says GSL requested a "top heavy" prize pool). It still increased somewhat overall though.
Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
November 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#112
YESSSSSSS finally Blizzard makes us proud
So excited to the GSL back, it was so sad to Tastosis cast OGN feeds in an empty studio.
And the soft region lock sounds like a good compromise
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
November 20 2013 23:45 GMT
#113
Sounds like all the right decisions to me.

The one thing that surprised me was the qualification opportunities for Koreans in other regions. If I'm reading this right they can only qualify via the 2 ladder wildcard spots. When they said partial region lock I figured more like 50/50 local/global qualifiers.

The foreigner-korean mix should be fine with all the koreans seeded from 2013, but I wonder how many will switch back to GSL with the increased prize pool? I guess it won't be that many since the difference is only for first place.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12427 Posts
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#114
Is there something that stops this system from being full korean in the long term, btw?

Like, let's say two koreans qualify from the ladder thingy, then they perform well enough to stay in Premier League, then next season two other koreans qualify from the ladder thingy, and so on?
No will to live, no wish to die
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#115
"The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014"

Doesn't this kind of defeat the entire purpose of the semi region lock? Those Korean players are never going to fall out, and so the spots supposedly dedicated to regional players simply won't exist.
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#116
On November 21 2013 08:45 Conti wrote:
As predicted: Every time Blizzard does something the first time, they fuck it up. And then, the second time around, they learn from their mistakes and do a much better job.

Nice.


pretty much sums it up
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JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:46:28
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#117
I didn't understand shit about the region thing for America, can someone explain it to me?

I'm not sure if I'm dumb, the language barrier is acting like crazy, or if it's really confusing

so from what I got, there are 16 spots reserved as explained in the first column of the tabe (8,2,2,2,2). but reserved for what? the qualifier phase? or for the premier league?

and does that mean that there are only 2 spots ("ladder wildcard") reserved for the koreans?
Tbatz
Profile Joined September 2013
Canada105 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:46:32
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#118
Actually looks decent. I like it =) Can't wait to see how this turns out.
DeimosTbatz
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
November 20 2013 23:46 GMT
#119
nice !! light in the tunnel!!
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blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
November 20 2013 23:47 GMT
#120
Looks nice, I'm really looking forward to the new old GSL :D
Also, does this mean we can now stop with all the region lock speculation discussion threads or do we just headstart into demanding things for 2015?
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