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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 20 2013 23:28 GMT
#61
Yay great changes !
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Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
November 20 2013 23:28 GMT
#62
On November 21 2013 08:27 s.a.y wrote:
The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014. Their status is guaranteed so long as they remain at the Premier/Challenger level.

Will this be a problem for WCS NA?


I think you'll have a lot of them leaving for GSL, but this is a great compromise. I'm sure some of the pros aren't going to be happy, but from a spectator point of view I think a lot of us who were pro-region lock will be pleased.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 20 2013 23:29 GMT
#63
On November 21 2013 08:27 s.a.y wrote:
The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014. Their status is guaranteed so long as they remain at the Premier/Challenger level.

Will this be a problem for WCS NA?


Yes. The existing koreans have to be fully knocked out, which only then will they be screwed by the new qualification standards. Good luck to NA players trying to knock them all out though!
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Storm-Giant
Profile Joined March 2012
Spain416 Posts
November 20 2013 23:29 GMT
#64
Lots of greats changes and improvements here. But there are still a few problems left (WCS America still filled with Koreans, still only 3 tournaments in Korea so few chances for so many players....) but one that really bothers me is the map pool requisite. If they don't change 3 or 4 maps each ladder season, it's going to be very boring T_T
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 20 2013 23:29 GMT
#65
On November 21 2013 08:27 s.a.y wrote:
The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014. Their status is guaranteed so long as they remain at the Premier/Challenger level.

Will this be a problem for WCS NA?


Almost certainly, top 8 last season was 7 Korean + MacSed, there are apparently 14 Koreans still in Challenger
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
November 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#66
COOL
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nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
November 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#67
Region locking is only for qualifiers which is good. GSL is back and with a larger* (or old prizepool) and OGN can still run their own tournament if they want.

WCS AM and EU become an ongoing league for constant competition. Overall a lot of good improvements that should have happened years ago.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
November 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#68
On November 21 2013 08:29 NovaMB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:27 s.a.y wrote:
The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014. Their status is guaranteed so long as they remain at the Premier/Challenger level.

Will this be a problem for WCS NA?


Almost certainly, top 8 last season was 7 Korean + MacSed, there are apparently 14 Koreans still in Challenger


I'm not 100% certain, but didn't they say that only the top 8 in premier stay, and every single other spot will need to be qualified for?
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#69
I like!
prizepool -format in korea is terrible. Only the 1st get more money next year. 2nd /3rd etc lesser than this year.
my suggestion: 1st a bit lesser and 2nd/3rd/4th a bit more.
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GoodSirTets
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada200 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:32:12
November 20 2013 23:30 GMT
#70
Overall, I really like the changes they made :D
Korea prize pool distribution seems crazy top heavy which I had thought was a problem in the region. Weird that they would ask for it?
High Diamond/ Low Masters :^)
Rho_
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States971 Posts
November 20 2013 23:31 GMT
#71
This is really good.
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
November 20 2013 23:31 GMT
#72
Interesting!
Jaedong <3
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12474 Posts
November 20 2013 23:31 GMT
#73
On November 21 2013 08:30 GoodSirTets wrote:
Maybe an editing mistake, but you have the prizepools and distribution numbers for code S listed to be the same as AM an EU, which I gather they aren't supposed to be.


I made the same mistake at first, but the picture is actually right. Look closer
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:32:27
November 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#74
On November 21 2013 08:30 GoodSirTets wrote:
Maybe an editing mistake, but you have the prizepools and distribution numbers for code S listed to be the same as AM an EU, which I gather they aren't supposed to be.

Overall, I really like the changes they made :D

they aren't one table shows 2013 prize money while the other is 2014

also AM/EU prize pools increased which is great
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iHirO
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1381 Posts
November 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#75
Good job Blizzard, it looks like you've taken on board most of the issues from this year. I also noticed the twitch requirement has been dropped, maybe this will open the doors for other streaming companies.
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:33:04
November 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#76
I love it, this is what it should have been from the start.
Hopefully next year Blizzard can add on WCS China so the NA/SA don't have to share everything.

GSL being able to run WCS on it's own, good choice!
OGN still being able to run events on the side opens up for another OSL no?

The bad things that could be horrible is Blizzard taking sole charge of the Map Pool.
Judging from their new additions I really really really really really hope they actually have meetings with the Community Mapmakers, Blizzard needs to listen!

Challenger being a single bo5 is not ideal imo, prefer the GSL system a lot more but I guess it's better than a single bo3.
The curse is real
Gfire
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1699 Posts
November 20 2013 23:32 GMT
#77
So a tournament can't give out WCS points if they have a non-ladder map pool? I'm kinda disappointing about that but if they do a decent job with the ladder pool it might be okay. As long as we have team leagues for other maps it could work out.

It all looks pretty good. I think it's a good improvement from 2013.
all's fair in love and melodies
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
November 20 2013 23:33 GMT
#78
On November 21 2013 08:30 Dingodile wrote:
I like!
prizepool -format in korea is terrible. Only the 1st get more money next year. 2nd /3rd etc lesser than this year.
my suggestion: 1st a bit lesser and 2nd/3rd/4th a bit more.


Article says that GSL specifically requested that the 1st place prize be much higher than the other prizes. I guess for marketing since the 1st place prize is what everyone pays attention to.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17738 Posts
November 20 2013 23:33 GMT
#79
wait wtf is that huge difference in prize money between GSL 1st and 2nd???
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 20 2013 23:33 GMT
#80
with the reserved slots in WCS America, will they have to make different qualifiers for each region (SEA, China, Taiwan, America) ? Kinda like IEM ?
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