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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 23:27:17
November 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#41
I think the vast majority of these changes are great. The one thing I don't like is that apparently there will only be 3 major Korean tournaments the whole year, but I recognize that relates more to the decreased popularity of SC2 in Korea and is not Blizzard's fault. I hope (cross my fingers) that OSL will run at least one or two leagues also, and perhaps even GSL will too? Things like offline versions of "side" tournaments like AoL, etc... Also hoping that there will be more IEMs, DreamHacks, etc, but I just always found GSL much, much more interesting than all of the "weekend" events

Edit: One other thing I don't like is the Challenger League format for EU and NA. It'll be very random since it'll all depend on who you happen to get paired up with. But the KR Challenger League format sounds great; real groups instead of the weird bracket/U&D hybrid.
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
November 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#42
On November 21 2013 07:25 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
OGN has rights to run both StarCraft and StarCraft II tournaments

I wonder...
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 20 2013 23:22 GMT
#43
some really good changes, well done
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 20 2013 23:22 GMT
#44
On November 21 2013 08:21 NovaMB wrote:
70.000.000 Won is roughly 66.000 dollars. Pretty damn good pricepool.
I feel a bit sad that OGN is gone, I really enjoyed listening to Doa and Montecristo.

The ladder spots are open to everyone on the planet I assume?

OGN can still run OSL if they want.
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Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
November 20 2013 23:23 GMT
#45
On November 21 2013 08:19 asdfOu wrote:
and still the wcs america & eu are the same prize pool as wcs korea...


Looks to me like the WCS KR tournament has about $50,000 USD more in prize money
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 20 2013 23:23 GMT
#46
Glad to see GSL get an increase in prize money over the other regions as it deserves it. Not a fan of how top heavy gsl is, but gsl requested that so I guess that's what they want.
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wUndertUnge
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1125 Posts
November 20 2013 23:23 GMT
#47
Changes overall are great; however, without the global finals each season, are players losing out on more money? Or did they expand on region prize money?
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Sirrush
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
November 20 2013 23:24 GMT
#48
On November 21 2013 08:19 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:17 AmuseD wrote:
Good post !

I do have a question. With the top 8 of last seasons Wcs America being korean. Do they still remain in premier league of wcs america? Or are they going to do a complete swipe in people?

Q&A says they stay until knocked-out.


Which means they won't be knocked out for quite a while, unless they hit another Korean in their (single) Challenger match.

Challenger seems overly harsh now. Get a tough opponent or have a bad day? gg gl qualifying again. Not necessarily a bad thing, should keep a nice rotation of fresh meat coming in.

Looks good so far!
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TTBest
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany74 Posts
November 20 2013 23:24 GMT
#49
I feel like these are some good changes to the WCS system. Especially the fact that Korea is getting a higher status seems legit. Getting curious about the pro's reactions...
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
November 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#50
On November 21 2013 08:23 wUndertUnge wrote:
Changes overall are great; however, without the global finals each season, are players losing out on more money? Or did they expand on region prize money?


That's a great question and the numbers are there, but I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but I'm sure someone else will soon.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
November 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#51
I swear if people start to bitch about "no global finals" lol

good changes, what i really want to know (and hope) is that OGN might bring OSL back
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Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
November 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#52
I find it interesting that the article says that OGN has rights to broadcast both Starcraft and Starcraft II. It probably still won't mean any Brood War content showing up, but one can dream .

Anyways, really cool changes so far. Blizzard has definitely been listening to community feedback.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12374 Posts
November 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#53
Well I was against region lock so I'm not thrilled by this obviously. If they really have to do that, though, I just wish they had more spots depending on ladder participation than they have right now, two feels a bit of a stretch.
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NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
November 20 2013 23:25 GMT
#54
On November 21 2013 08:22 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:21 NovaMB wrote:
70.000.000 Won is roughly 66.000 dollars. Pretty damn good pricepool.
I feel a bit sad that OGN is gone, I really enjoyed listening to Doa and Montecristo.

The ladder spots are open to everyone on the planet I assume?

OGN can still run OSL if they want.

Well I preferred the OGN "piggyback broadcast" over Tastosis, I'm sad about that.

Wait Challenger league is a single bo5 now? Thats pretty bad if you happen to run into your worst matchup
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
November 20 2013 23:26 GMT
#55
Nice, giving regional players preference without depriving the possibility of Jürgen sticking around. This is overall very positive.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
November 20 2013 23:26 GMT
#56
On November 21 2013 08:25 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 08:23 wUndertUnge wrote:
Changes overall are great; however, without the global finals each season, are players losing out on more money? Or did they expand on region prize money?


That's a great question and the numbers are there, but I'm too lazy to do the math right now, but I'm sure someone else will soon.


I think the important thing is that the events lasting longer in general will probably end up creating more opportunities for other events to run around WCS. I think there's a good chance that more money becomes available over all. Of course only time will tell.
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s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
November 20 2013 23:27 GMT
#57
The existing non-resident players in WCS America and WCS Europe Premier and Challenger leagues can stay in the region for 2014. Their status is guaranteed so long as they remain at the Premier/Challenger level.

Will this be a problem for WCS NA?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 20 2013 23:27 GMT
#58
seems good so far. Hope it works out
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KingLeonardo
Profile Joined August 2011
12 Posts
November 20 2013 23:28 GMT
#59
Difference between 1st and 2nd place prize at GSL Code S is unbelievable. This should be changed otherwise the players in the final will make a deal before the games are even played. That's not what we want, right?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 20 2013 23:28 GMT
#60
On November 21 2013 08:28 KingLeonardo wrote:
Difference between 1st and 2nd place prize at GSL Code S is unbelievable. This should be changed otherwise the players in the final will make a deal before the games are even played. That's not what we want, right?


What, we fgc now?
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