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The Iconoclast: EG.aLive - Road to Blizzcon #12

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The Iconoclast: EG.aLive - Road to Blizzcon #12

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
November 7th, 2013 06:47 GMT
2013 WCS Finals

As we prepare to attend the sacred halls of Blizzcon, Alive conspires to show us how fragile our beloved icons really are.

by CosmicSpiral

There is no better compliment and greater insult than the phrase ‘Korean Terran’. By itself the term implies a level of skill that must be respected. Korean terrans are the pinnacle of mechanical skill and standard strategy; unlike zerg and protoss, they clearly outclass the rest of the world. However, not all terrans are equal in the eyes of the community. The truly great terrans marry an identifiable playstyle with a compelling storyline. MarineKing gave us an entertaining champion who was not afraid to show weakness in front of the camera. Polt is widely admired for his irresistible charisma as well as his remarkable comebacks. MMA will always be celebrated as the Emperor’s son who overthrew the reign of an unassailable king. We even celebrate the triumphs of less accomplished players like Bomber and jjakji because their stories were ones we could empathize with. ‘Korean terran’ here is the highest form of praise. These players always walk onto the stage to thundering roars. They make our hearts soar with every win and sink with every loss. They inspire and connect people by their very existence.

(T)EG.aLive lives on the other side of the tracks. He occupies a ghetto (along with TOP, Heart, and the late Virus/Ensnare duo) where high-level terran play has little worth. Here ‘Korean Terran’ reminds us how much of a hellhole the KR region can be. In a scene where being good means you might qualify to Challenger League with some bracket luck, you need more than a few televised games for real recognition. Unlike the aforementioned champions, these mid-level players never gave us a reason to emotionally invest into their careers. They exhibit the worst traits endemic to Korean progamers: respectful modesty that immediately sours into tediousness, hoary clichés recited ad nauseam during interviews, and a peculiar aversion towards revealing weakness, quirkiness or anything that could be construed as a personality. They are further damned with statistical mediocrity. An uninteresting person can automatically become interesting if he also happens to beat the snot out of everyone else; a player like Innovation transcends his blandness by dominating so hard, his lack of personality goes full circle and becomes part of his storyline. But these poor souls are simply not good enough to make a memorable impression. How many people remember that Heart has five top eight placements in his career, or that TheStC almost won Dreamhack Valencia? Who really cares about players who are capable of winning tournaments but never actually win them?

Alive has never been able to escape the pejorative sense of the term. His slow ascent from the Code A pit to Code S was glanced over in favor of the greater accomplishments of his TSL teammates. Fruitdealer entranced us with his sorrowful decline, SangHo charmed us with his roguish confidence, Polt’s transfer made him the most accomplished player on the roster, and Puma staked his claim as the rookie with untapped potential. No one really cared about that shy, strange kid in the background with no feats to his name. Only a few hipsters recognized his GSTL success as the precursor to something bigger.

His unexpected winning streak on Fnatic almost changed everything. The freedom to choose his own practice schedule and the promise of international exposure awoke something within Alive. Maybe his Ro16 placing at IPL3 was the catalyst; maybe it was relief at escaping the stifling atmosphere of a Korean team house. All we know is that he started to play better than he had ever played before. He blazed a path through the GSL with amazing mech play and devious openings, only put out by a torrent of proxy void rays from Genius. Alive continued to impress with three excellent series against MC, MMA, and Nestea at Iron Squid. But it was his ultimate coup d’état at IPL 4 that stunned even the most imaginative fans. Reaching two consecutive semifinals in a row is a great feat but come on…this was IPL 4. This was the granddaddy of ridiculously stacked tournaments. Five GSL champions, a two-time GSL finalist, and the best foreigner were going as well as a slew of criminally underrated players like Puma, Creator, Squirtle, and Byun. So far Alive had only proved himself in matches with intense preparation. No one expected him to survive this onslaught of talent for three days. Instead, Alive pulled a Rorschach and showed that he was the most dangerous predator of the weekend. Merciless TvT, adequate TvZ, and a cool head allowed him to seize first place among that sea of killers.

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Note: IPL staff is fantastic at scrubbing the blood out of windows.
Photo: silverfire

By the time Alive had proven himself as a top-tier terran, it was too late to change his reputation. IPL 4 took place in April 2012 and at this point, Korean Terrans were already storming foreign lands and hogging all the loot. Before 2012 even started Mvp had three trophies to his name; MMA had won MLG Columbus, IEM Kiev, Blizzard Cup, and Iron Squid prior to IPL 4; MarineKing was the proud owner of double MLG gold. Meanwhile Polt was coming off a memorable victory at Assembly Winter, where he charmed viewers with his never say die stubbornness and willingness to speak English. If this had taken place six months earlier Alive would be remembered as a pioneer of the Korean invasion. Instead he was saddled with the burden of unconsciously justifying this win to the community at large. Who was this unknown player who overthrew all expectations? What was the significance of this victory?

With all those memorable players taking up the spotlight, there was previous little Alive could offer to distinguish himself. His stoic composure, the key quality that allowed him to recover from a near-devastating bracket reset during the finals, was ill-suited for giving interviews. Whether by choice or nature, Alive was unable to convey the overwhelming swell of emotions that usually come with such an important event. Alive had also indirectly ruined the buildup of IPL 4 by beating the players that everyone wanted to see. MarineKing entered as the favorite to win and played the best out of all competitors during the group stage; Nestea defied rumors of his recent demise by going undefeated until the semifinals. In one swift motion he knocked both of them to the losers bracket, where they would be eliminated. Furthermore, his rise was so fast and unexpected that nobody could tie it into a greater storyline. Alive wasn’t a brilliant prodigy preparing for an inevitable day of triumph. He did not hold the aspiration of an entire team on his back. He had not established himself as a top player looking to continue his domination. He was just…there, the beneficiary of good brackets and great play.

Soon Alive’s brief flash of brilliance faded without a single tear to mourn it. He settled back into mediocrity, falling out of Code S while entering a cycle of 8th-16th finishes. Spectators were quick to dismiss those magical few months as a gross aberration. It would be an entire year before Alive broke into the quarterfinals of a major tournament again.

It would be easy to dismiss Alive as a BlizzCon contender. He lacks the pedigree of Mvp and Jaedong. He is not as lovable as Bomber and MMA. sOs and HerO outshine him in terms of flair. He has no storyline as captivating as duckdeok and Naniwa. And he certainly can’t hold a candle to Polt and MC in interviews. But beware of such assumptions when it comes to the EG terran. Behind those puppy dog eyes and perpetual frown lies the equivalent of Coyote from Navajo mythology, a trickster who delights in flouting rules and expectations. Alive doesn’t specialize in winning championships or engaging audiences: he specializes in ruining dreams and pissing us off. To an ordinary person, his post-TSL career looks like a Road Runner cartoon: Wile E. Coyote always fails hilariously in the end and so do those unwise enough to treat Alive as some tomato-can opponent. By contrast SC2 lovers are not amused by his antics. He denied us the pleasure of a MC-MMA semifinal at Iron Squid. He dared to eliminate MMA from GSL Season 1 as the entire world rooted for Boxer’s prodigy. Alive single-handedly created ulcers around the world by beating almost every fan favorite during his IPL 4 run. He sent Crank packing with an easy 3-0 sweep in the WCS Season 1 Finals and ended Scarlett’s hopes in the Season 2 Finals. He’s defeated Polt more times than I care to recall. Stephano, Mvp, Maru, Grubby, Taeja, and MarineKing have all been his victims at one point or another. He’s nice guy Sniper without broodlord support.

Alive has been preparing for this weekend for an entire year. It has been a slow, pedestrian process without much fanfare. He received little praise for reaching top six in two consecutive WCS seasons and almost no attention over IEM Shanghai. He looked unimpressive at some points and plain terrible at others. Prior to WCS America Season 2, Alive admitted that he didn’t fully understand HotS; judging by his recent games, he still hasn’t got around to fixing that completely. Don’t expect such an obstacle to intimidate the 18th highest earning SC2 player of all time. Alive thrives in these types of situations. Only when all odds are against him does he show the promise that hides behind his regular play. Will Alive be the fly in the ointment one more time? Will he bow before the superior might of these assembled champions? With him you never know. Alive certainly wouldn't have it any other way.

WCS Grand Finals
Brackets and info on Liquipedia

1: Soulkey - The Tragic Champion
2: INnoVation - The Man in the Machine
3: Jaedong - In Search of Lost Time
4: Polt - Prince of the Tides
5: HerO - Fire and Ice
6: Dear - The Unending Royal Road
7: Maru - The Prince Who Would be King
8: Bomber - I Fought the Law (And I Won)
9: MMA - Out of Exile
10: MC - Cash Rules Everything Around Me
11: TaeJa - Fire and Ice
12: sOs - On the Cutting Edge
13: aLive - The Iconoclast
14: Mvp - The King
15: duckdeok - Faceless
16: NaNiwa
17: Revival - ???



Writers: CosmicSpiral.
Photos: GHOSTCLAW and silverfire.
Editor: Waxangel.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
November 07 2013 06:50 GMT
#2
Good thing you put his name in the title or else I wouldn't know who this is
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 07 2013 06:51 GMT
#3
Nicknames don't grow on trees!
Refer to my post.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 07 2013 06:52 GMT
#4
aLive his his clan tag. His ID is Light. See? (T)Light[aLive]
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 06:55:19
November 07 2013 06:53 GMT
#5
Soundtrack for this: click here for youtube video link.

I'm rooting for Alive, he's kind of an underdog against most the competition, but it was always really fun watching him kick ass.
I still remember that TvT (vs MMA I think?) on Dual Sight where he raven rushed into an auto-turret and tank push that just plain won outright.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 07:14:09
November 07 2013 06:56 GMT
#6
aLive!!
I thought that preview was hidden!

E: Nice writeups. Now i'm a bit of hoping to see alive beat polt!
Startale forever.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 07 2013 06:59 GMT
#7
@Whitewing, yea it was vs MMA. It was pretty cool. Ro8 Season 1 2012
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
November 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#8
well this is saddening to read I was always rooting for aLive
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hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 07:01:45
November 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#9
I think if people checked out his WCS America live interviews and his Proleague interview with Oz, they would see how aLive is a very funny guy! It's sad that we don't get to see that often!
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 07:02:04
November 07 2013 07:01 GMT
#10
On November 07 2013 15:59 Shellshock wrote:
@Whitewing, yea it was vs MMA. It was pretty cool. Ro8 Season 1 2012


Did you just have that memorized, or did you look it up? I'm gonna go watch that game again. I miss seeing really clever plays like that. Auto turrets are underused early game, so hard to kill them.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 07 2013 07:02 GMT
#11
aLive leads Polt 14-12 in head to head and beat him in WCS AM this year 2-1. Definitely don't count aLive out
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 07 2013 07:02 GMT
#12
aLive will be a great ro16 snack. This should be too hard a competition for him (heard that before..).
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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
November 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#13
You say he ended Scarlett's hopes, but actually Bomber ended Scarlett's hopes if you're talking about the finals. And Scarlett schooled him in WCS NA season 2. I guess he did beat her in group stage of the finals but she still advanced.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 07 2013 07:10 GMT
#14
I've really enjoyed reading these writeups, but this one stands out in that it doesn't really make me want to root for the player
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
November 07 2013 07:11 GMT
#15
I remember how miserable Alive looked after he won IPL 4. I just dont get some of the Koreans. Dont you enjoy winning? Dont you like seeing the crowd go nuts? You can see that a lot of them hold back their emotions for some reason.
Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
November 07 2013 07:13 GMT
#16
Thank you for the article. So good XD
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12472 Posts
November 07 2013 07:15 GMT
#17
Omg now i dont know who to cheer for anymore.
Damn you and your amazing articles that make everyone deserve the win more than the others.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 07 2013 07:19 GMT
#18
On November 07 2013 16:11 Bowzar wrote:
I remember how miserable Alive looked after he won IPL 4. I just dont get some of the Koreans. Dont you enjoy winning? Dont you like seeing the crowd go nuts? You can see that a lot of them hold back their emotions for some reason.


It's probably not exclusive to Koreans. There's people who are a lot more reserved in all cultures.

We don't see foreigners win enough to be sure ;p

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ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
November 07 2013 07:22 GMT
#19
I really expect big things of aLive at blizzcon.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44171 Posts
November 07 2013 07:25 GMT
#20
did not know alot about alive before reading this .. wew

nice writeup :D still wont root for him lol
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