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On October 04 2013 06:29 Ctone23 wrote:
A mans word is all he has at times.... you told them you wouldn't say anything yet you did.
Hey it's your life, but trust is uncommon these days so I don't know why you chose to break that.
Good luck in everything you do.
There's no integrity in eSports, so don't say retarded shit like that. With an atmosphere of everyone wants to get theirs a lot of people get screwed over.
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Oh Massan T_T very sad reading this. If there is anything I can do to help, let me know.
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On October 04 2013 06:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 06:55 FXOTheoRy wrote:
Another terrible organization in the esports scene. Shame on Simon for being a horrible person in this situation. Massan is one of the nicest people I have ever met in my life and deserves all of the respect in the world. Someone who would steal from him and even tell lies to hurt his image deserves the worst. He's just the Head of the Esports department. He isn't nearly the most powerful person in the organization.
hes the owner/ceo
http://www.quanticgaming.com/management
liquipedia isn't updated
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It makes me wonder if Simon actually tried to find out any information for you, his player. Surely if he understood your situation, no flight would have ever been booked that was over the visa limit (even if you gave incorrect dates). Upon finding out the flight date was wrong, surely he would have tried his best to change the flight date or help cover the costs to get it changed.
Even if Simon was in the right, it's fucking harsh to leave your player stranded $1400 out of pocket, then just write them off then they get upset when you seem disinterested in trying to help them out.
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word is word , but when someone tries to fk me , word twards that person is nothin .
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"father's credit card" ... How old is this guy, 15 ?
Best of luck massan :[
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On October 04 2013 06:57 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 06:56 FiWiFaKi wrote:On October 04 2013 06:55 FXOTheoRy wrote:
Another terrible organization in the esports scene. Shame on Simon for being a horrible person in this situation. Massan is one of the nicest people I have ever met in my life and deserves all of the respect in the world. Someone who would steal from him and even tell lies to hurt his image deserves the worst. He's just the Head of the Esports department. He isn't nearly the most powerful person in the organization. hes the owner/ceo http://www.quanticgaming.com/managementliquipedia isn't updated
Apologies, I did infact find my information in liquipedia. Thanks for the correction.
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On October 04 2013 06:52 las91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 06:52 NovemberstOrm wrote:
sad this kind of bullshit unprofessionalism is still so prevalent in e-sports/competitive gaming. Honestly it's mostly in the NA scene that I've seen it "prevalent" in the past year or so. It's still more than it should be but it seems that EU teams and the KR scene is shaping up quite nicely in that respect.
hey have people forgotten about ministry of win already? 
they aren't a team but still.
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On October 04 2013 06:56 Eifer wrote:
This unprofessionalism is exactly why I didn't join Quantic after the merger. Simon had been like this at the time - and if you recall Massan - I explicitly warned you that he'd failed to fulfill promises for me as well.
I do remember that. Maybe we can have a chatter 
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wow, i'm sorry to hear about this massan. this guy sounds like a complete scumbag.
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I read this whole thing thinking that Quantic Simon was just a personnel manager or something. Then I found out he's the owner of the entire team?
Shit, man.
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On October 04 2013 06:50 Grettin wrote:
Shocker, Quantic's a godawful organisation. Nothing new.
Sad to see you getting screwed.
Organisation ran by a guy who books a member of that organisations travel on their daddy's credit card.
Organisation ran by a guy without his own credit card/ bank account
Organisation... ???
I hear over in the US they have lemonade stands in the suburbs ran by kids. I bet even they are more organised than that...
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On October 04 2013 07:01 Fionn wrote:
I read this whole thing thinking that Quantic Simon was just a personnel manager or something. Then I found out he's the owner of the entire team?
Shit, man.
Owner
Oh bloody ell.... I assumed he was just one of their managers or something.
LOL!
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wait, Simon = Samubca right?
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And there goes your reputation Quantic.
Really sad that these kind of "CEOs/Owners" are acting like that. It's not even close to a serious business.
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From the skype logs it seems like you both ordered the tickets together, in person, side by side. If you were in the room, looking at the booking and made the booking and then gave him the money then it's not really his fault that the dates were wrong. That's what it looks like happened from the logs.
After that, I'm not really sure why Simon didn't just reschedule the flight for you and have you pay the difference, that's what I don't understand.
I think the comments in this thread are pretty idiotic though.
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Ouch that is pretty brutal... and some clear cut evidence... I normally hold judgement until both sides are presented but doesn't look like I need to in this case o.O
I hope the other players don't get screwed over as well D:
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Not sure what to say. People are scum.
What's the status of your paypal Massan, is it back to normal and can I/we donate?
Edit: the guy mentioned this form? http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-539.pdf .. I would pay a lot of money not to have to fill that monstrosity in, lol.
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On October 04 2013 07:04 shinyA wrote:
From the skype logs it seems like you both ordered the tickets together, in person, side by side. If you were in the room, looking at the booking and made the booking and then gave him the money then it's not really his fault that the dates were wrong. That's what it looks like happened from the logs.
After that, I'm not really sure why Simon didn't just reschedule the flight for you and have you pay the difference, that's what I don't understand.
I think the comments in this thread are pretty idiotic though.
It would have been simple enough for him to reschedule and let Massan pay the >$150. Instead he kicks Massan off the team after pocketing $1400 illegally.
That's why people are making the comments they are about the situation.
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On October 04 2013 07:03 InfectedGoat wrote:
wait, Simon = Samubca right?
According to liquipedia, yes.
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