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intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
September 24 2013 22:42 GMT
#41
On September 25 2013 05:27 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 05:22 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.

That first part is pretty bad if true. Dragon is more of the class clown of SC2, but I get where you are coming from.

he was caught and admitted to stream cheating in a tournament some time ago

idra just mad cuz I pwned him alot when I was on clarity :p
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
September 24 2013 23:01 GMT
#42
On September 25 2013 06:42 Msr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 06:25 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:06 IdrA wrote:
On September 25 2013 06:03 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:57 Ureth_RA wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.



Why is it if anyone else said something like this they would be banned (or at the very least warned) but when idra says it its ignored?

People how have been here for a lot time get more leeway. Also, he is 50% correct on that one.

100% correct

Well I am not prepared to call Dragon an ass tumor. Maybe a jerk and a troll, but a cancerous boil it a little farther than I would go.



Cheaters do not deserve second chances.

Damn we should find him and chop his hands off then! :o

It's pretty fucking disgusting reading comments like these only because a guy made a small misstep several years ago.
Dragon is the class clown of SC2 and if he left the game there would be a hole left after him.

Pointing fingers and being overly negative (cancer) is something thats not needed in this community, we should have learned this by now..
The curse is real
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
September 24 2013 23:29 GMT
#43
On September 25 2013 07:25 mikkmagro wrote:
14 players isn't exactly what I'd call restructuring to ensure financial stability, I'm guessing the players have wide-ranging degrees of support from the org. Would rather see a proper pro roster of 5/6 players (considering the teamless NA talent atm) and then promotions from the academy team when the time is right. But eitherway I'm glad to see team owners admitting to being over-ambitious, and down-sizing before it's too late.

Will the team house be retained?

Our roster consists of 14 players on paper. However, they're not all active.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 23:38:57
September 24 2013 23:36 GMT
#44
What happened to mewbert

*edit*
Never mind read page 2
Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
September 24 2013 23:45 GMT
#45
sucks for the CGco guys, I was part of it for a time (eventually leaving to pursue UK opportunities as the timezone difference wasnt working out too well). I hope you guys all find a home
UK TrackMania Champion | Former SC2 player | http://www.twitter.com/Sabre_CS
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 00:29:22
September 25 2013 00:28 GMT
#46
I called the team dying long ago. Half of the players on that "Pro" roster are far from skilled enough to be there or don't play anymore. Expect to see a complete dissolution within the next two months.

On September 25 2013 07:25 mikkmagro wrote:
14 players isn't exactly what I'd call restructuring to ensure financial stability, I'm guessing the players have wide-ranging degrees of support from the org. Would rather see a proper pro roster of 5/6 players (considering the teamless NA talent atm) and then promotions from the academy team when the time is right. But eitherway I'm glad to see team owners admitting to being over-ambitious, and down-sizing before it's too late.

Will the team house be retained?

They no longer have enough staff after Mike "left." The senior staff used to be ~6-10 people, now there's maybe 3. The house will be retained because it's not a team house. It's a vacation property owned by Adama's family that he was allowed to use as a team house.

On September 25 2013 07:32 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
whatever happened to Young? I used to watch his stream like a year ago when he first joined clarity gaming. Theres been no news of him ever since. Has he ultimately retired from sc2?

Yong is finishing his Civil Engineering degree in Korea right now.
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-25 01:23:20
September 25 2013 01:22 GMT
#47
Dragon may be a troll personality for entertainment

but hes in Korean server Grandmaster this season
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 25 2013 01:46 GMT
#48
Good to see Sterling's name
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
September 25 2013 02:33 GMT
#49
So I know of Dragon, Killer, and... Seeker lol

Well, good luck to you guys.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
September 25 2013 02:34 GMT
#50
On September 25 2013 07:42 intense555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 05:27 IdrA wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:22 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.

That first part is pretty bad if true. Dragon is more of the class clown of SC2, but I get where you are coming from.

he was caught and admitted to stream cheating in a tournament some time ago

idra just mad cuz I pwned him alot when I was on clarity :p


Who are you?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 25 2013 02:37 GMT
#51
On September 25 2013 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:42 intense555 wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:27 IdrA wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:22 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.

That first part is pretty bad if true. Dragon is more of the class clown of SC2, but I get where you are coming from.

he was caught and admitted to stream cheating in a tournament some time ago

idra just mad cuz I pwned him alot when I was on clarity :p


Who are you?


NA GM Terran named Intense. Hes a bit of a blowhard.
In Inca we trust
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
September 25 2013 02:40 GMT
#52
On September 25 2013 11:37 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:42 intense555 wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:27 IdrA wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:22 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.

That first part is pretty bad if true. Dragon is more of the class clown of SC2, but I get where you are coming from.

he was caught and admitted to stream cheating in a tournament some time ago

idra just mad cuz I pwned him alot when I was on clarity :p


Who are you?


NA GM Terran named Intense. Hes a bit of a blowhard.


Ah okay. Yeah, I mean it's rather silly to try and dodge the fact that Dragon had been caught/ admitted to cheating in the past, even though that was indeed a long time ago...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Dragon#Controversy
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10760 Posts
September 25 2013 02:42 GMT
#53
Nice, you should put the race symbols by each players name in the roster. ^^ GL Clarity!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
September 25 2013 02:47 GMT
#54
On September 25 2013 06:41 Ureth_RA wrote:
Idra admitted to cheating also...

When did that happen? Idra you want to comment on this accusation from a guy named after a part of the urinary tract?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
September 25 2013 03:14 GMT
#55
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.



What an ass hat comment. Sick and tired of you using what you think to be higher intellect to needlessly bring down another player.
TL+ Member
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
September 25 2013 03:17 GMT
#56
On September 25 2013 02:51 Conti wrote:
No more jookTo?


Thats what makes me sad. I'm glad sickness is still on there, but I was really hoping jookTo would still be on the roster. I sure hope he lands on his feet and sticks with SC2!
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mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
September 25 2013 05:34 GMT
#57
On September 25 2013 08:29 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:25 mikkmagro wrote:
14 players isn't exactly what I'd call restructuring to ensure financial stability, I'm guessing the players have wide-ranging degrees of support from the org. Would rather see a proper pro roster of 5/6 players (considering the teamless NA talent atm) and then promotions from the academy team when the time is right. But eitherway I'm glad to see team owners admitting to being over-ambitious, and down-sizing before it's too late.

Will the team house be retained?

Our roster consists of 14 players on paper. However, they're not all active.

Good luck Seeker! You're awesome! :D
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
September 25 2013 05:58 GMT
#58
hope things work out. I don't understand some of the comments here though, not every team needs to have big names. there must be teams who work on the roots base of the community.
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
Ctone23
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States1841 Posts
September 25 2013 15:04 GMT
#59
On September 25 2013 11:40 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 11:37 las91 wrote:
On September 25 2013 11:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On September 25 2013 07:42 intense555 wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:27 IdrA wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:22 Plansix wrote:
On September 25 2013 05:17 IdrA wrote:
clarity gaming: home of acknowledged cheater and tumor on the ass of the community, dragon.

That first part is pretty bad if true. Dragon is more of the class clown of SC2, but I get where you are coming from.

he was caught and admitted to stream cheating in a tournament some time ago

idra just mad cuz I pwned him alot when I was on clarity :p


Who are you?


NA GM Terran named Intense. Hes a bit of a blowhard.


Ah okay. Yeah, I mean it's rather silly to try and dodge the fact that Dragon had been caught/ admitted to cheating in the past, even though that was indeed a long time ago...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Dragon#Controversy



Yea well, it was while he was on Werra.... a team with a coach accused of sexual harassment of a player. With that in mind, it's not out of the question to consider if Dragon was forced to do what he did.

Bottom line, Dragon is entertaining and good for SC2 overall. If you can't see that fact and wish to bring up an issue from years back, well, that speaks to the competence of the community, in my opinion.
TL+ Member
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
September 25 2013 17:36 GMT
#60
On September 25 2013 09:28 chadissilent wrote:
I called the team dying long ago. Half of the players on that "Pro" roster are far from skilled enough to be there or don't play anymore. Expect to see a complete dissolution within the next two months.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:25 mikkmagro wrote:
14 players isn't exactly what I'd call restructuring to ensure financial stability, I'm guessing the players have wide-ranging degrees of support from the org. Would rather see a proper pro roster of 5/6 players (considering the teamless NA talent atm) and then promotions from the academy team when the time is right. But eitherway I'm glad to see team owners admitting to being over-ambitious, and down-sizing before it's too late.

Will the team house be retained?

They no longer have enough staff after Mike "left." The senior staff used to be ~6-10 people, now there's maybe 3. The house will be retained because it's not a team house. It's a vacation property owned by Adama's family that he was allowed to use as a team house.

Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 07:32 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
whatever happened to Young? I used to watch his stream like a year ago when he first joined clarity gaming. Theres been no news of him ever since. Has he ultimately retired from sc2?

Yong is finishing his Civil Engineering degree in Korea right now.



"NA esports teams are not viable and fuck anyone who tries."

Thanks for your worthwhile post bud!
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