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WCS EU Season 3 Ro16 Groups

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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 18 2013 19:57 GMT
#1
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_3_Europe/Premier

Group A
(T)Happy
(P)Welmu
(P)StarDust
(Z)TargA

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(T)Happy vs. (Z)TargA
(P)Welmu vs. (P)StarDust


Group B
(Z)VortiX
(P)MC
(T)ThorZaIN
(P)BabyKnight

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(Z)VortiX vs. (P)BabyKnight
(P)MC vs. (T)ThorZaIN


Group C
(T)ForGG
(P)Genius
(Z)Nerchio
(P)ShoWTimE

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(T)ForGG vs. (P)ShoWTimE
(P)Genius vs. (Z)Nerchio


Group D
(T)MMA
(P)TitaN
(P)duckdeok
(Z)Starbuck

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(T)MMA vs. (Z)Starbuck
(P)TitaN vs. (P)duckdeok




Poll: Hardest Group?

Group B (221)
 
43%

Group C (138)
 
27%

Group D (119)
 
23%

Group A (35)
 
7%

513 total votes

Your vote: Hardest Group?

(Vote): Group A
(Vote): Group B
(Vote): Group C
(Vote): Group D

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ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
September 18 2013 19:58 GMT
#2
Kind of weak compared to previous seasons...
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico675 Posts
September 18 2013 19:58 GMT
#3
dat group B. Talk about groups of death.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 20:09:36
September 18 2013 20:06 GMT
#4
Aligulac predictions

Group A
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                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
StarDust 63.99% 33.06% 30.92% 21.89% 14.12%
Happy 58.15% 30.60% 27.54% 22.12% 19.73%
Welmu 50.95% 24.84% 26.11% 25.98% 23.08%
TargA 26.92% 11.49% 15.43% 30.01% 43.07%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group B
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                    Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
VortiX 78.51% 48.22% 30.29% 12.84% 8.65%
MC 54.89% 25.30% 29.59% 24.93% 20.18%
ThorZaIN 37.74% 14.81% 22.93% 32.01% 30.25%
BabyKnight 28.86% 11.67% 17.20% 30.21% 40.92%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group C
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                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
ForGG 66.87% 35.41% 31.45% 20.43% 12.71%
Nerchio 54.86% 29.77% 25.09% 21.97% 23.17%
Genius 52.91% 24.78% 28.13% 26.34% 20.75%
ShoWTimE 25.36% 10.04% 15.32% 31.26% 43.38%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Group D
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                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
MMA 82.38% 52.73% 29.65% 10.65% 6.97%
duckdeok 51.24% 23.03% 28.21% 26.20% 22.56%
Starbuck 34.95% 12.92% 22.04% 31.00% 34.05%
TitaN 31.42% 11.32% 20.10% 32.16% 36.42%

Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 18 2013 20:07 GMT
#5
Hmm, here's hoping Genius and Nerchio can eliminate ForGG... and maaaaybe Titan can eliminate duckdeok.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
September 18 2013 20:07 GMT
#6
I really like Group B.
All I do is Stim.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
September 18 2013 20:07 GMT
#7
It's weird though that the median outcome for Group A has Stardust going out in 3rd place.
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Darkthorn
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania912 Posts
September 18 2013 20:08 GMT
#8
4 zergs 4 terrans 8 protoss but then again tosses always complain that toss is too weak lol
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 18 2013 20:13 GMT
#9
Gogo MMA, this is your season! Easy group for you!
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 18 2013 20:13 GMT
#10
Pretty high chance of 6 Koreans in top8 and most of them protoss.

Oh well, maybe WCS will be better next year.
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
September 18 2013 20:13 GMT
#11
On September 19 2013 05:13 Bagi wrote:
Pretty high chance of 6 Koreans in top8 and most of them protoss.

Oh well, maybe WCS will be better next year.


hopefully more Koreans join EU, it's the weakest region by far, needs some more talent.
IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
September 18 2013 20:15 GMT
#12
I would say Happy dodged the bullet. Group A is beatable, hope to see him in Ro8.
Insert wise words here
_indigo_
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia171 Posts
September 18 2013 20:29 GMT
#13
Starbuck got dis
I have seen it all, and everything is just as senseless as chasing the wind.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
September 18 2013 20:35 GMT
#14
This tournament is happy's to lose!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Xova
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
September 18 2013 20:35 GMT
#15
Haha ForGG and Nerchio, pulling for ForGG on that one.
If you're a Starcraft fan, you're an Lim Yo Hwan fan.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
September 18 2013 20:36 GMT
#16
On September 19 2013 05:08 Darkthorn wrote:
4 zergs 4 terrans 8 protoss but then again tosses always complain that toss is too weak lol


There are a lot of european protoss players and most koreans who chose WCS EU also play protoss; their overrepresentation isn't that strange.
Cogito, ergo toss.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 20:54:15
September 18 2013 20:39 GMT
#17
Okay, Group C:
ForGG 1-2 Showtime
Nerchio 2-0 Genius
Nerchio 2-0 Showtime
ForGG 2-0 Genius
ForGG 1-2 Showtime.
Group D:

MMA 2-0 Starbuck
Titan 2-0 duckdeok
Titan 2-0 MMA
Starbuck 2-0 duckdeok
Starbuck 2-1 MMA.
Group A:
Happy 2 0 Targa
StarDust 2 0 Welmu
StarDust 2 1 Happy
Targa 2 1 Welmu
Targa 2 1 Happy
Group B: impossible to call, as it has 3 players who have been in WCS EU Ro8. But Thorzain 4-0s group.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
September 18 2013 20:46 GMT
#18
Surpringly few top Euro foreigners left.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
bourne117
Profile Joined May 2010
United States837 Posts
September 18 2013 20:49 GMT
#19
On September 19 2013 05:13 Popkiller wrote:
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On September 19 2013 05:13 Bagi wrote:
Pretty high chance of 6 Koreans in top8 and most of them protoss.

Oh well, maybe WCS will be better next year.


hopefully more Koreans join EU, it's the weakest region by far, needs some more talent.

This seriously. America actually put up a really good fight at the last WCS finals. Half of the top 4 was from WCS America. Pretty sure overall the only players to even make Ro8 at WCS finals were Forgg and MVP in season 1.
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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
September 18 2013 20:52 GMT
#20
On September 19 2013 05:49 bourne117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2013 05:13 Popkiller wrote:
On September 19 2013 05:13 Bagi wrote:
Pretty high chance of 6 Koreans in top8 and most of them protoss.

Oh well, maybe WCS will be better next year.


hopefully more Koreans join EU, it's the weakest region by far, needs some more talent.

This seriously. America actually put up a really good fight at the last WCS finals. Half of the top 4 was from WCS America. Pretty sure overall the only players to even make Ro8 at WCS finals were Forgg and MVP in season 1.

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