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azzih
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany98 Posts
September 18 2013 08:17 GMT
#181
Have fun in LoL. He will not be the last player leaving the game. I think its hard for mid- to bottom foreigners to get their lifes paid out of starcraft. And there are also the self-expections you always fail to reach, must be quite frustrating.

The next one may be Ret. His performance since HOTS is so bad compared to mid stages of WOL....
Germany
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
September 18 2013 08:17 GMT
#182
On September 18 2013 13:41 Qwyn wrote:
Nah it's just that IMO, SC2 doesn't really feel very rewarding. After awhile builds/execution homongenize (at least playing zerg) and it just feels rather dull. I switched to BW and am having a blast even though I comparatively suck (nothing prepares you for Terran macro in BW coming from SC2, ahaha).

I imagine that LoL feels the same in a different way. Sure it is not mechanically demanding (which is what I love and am looking for), but it sure must have a fuckton of strategic/teamplay depth which is probably very rewarding to him and other SC2 players who switched.

There has to be this feeling that no matter how good you get, there is always still more which you can work on (whether mechanically or strategically). The ceiling needs to feel limitless! I imagine LoL does as well as Bw, just in a different way.

Roll on Beasty! I don't know if I'll tune in as I did before since I personally don't hold much interest in LoL, but I'll sure tune in every once in awhile just to see your kickass character.


Basically what this guy said. I always regarded LoL as an easy-ass game with no mechanical ceiling, basically like every one of us spiteful SC2 jerks. And while this is true (no APM APM APM) there, decision making, knowledge of the game, scouting and teamplay are SO much more important than in SC2, that it definitely makes up for the lack of spamming. Oh, and "easier to learn" = nonono, 115 heroes with 5 unique traits = thousands of fucking matchups to learn, which is definitely longer to learn than SC2's couple dozens units.

I love both games, but it's important to stop being blind, SC2 isn't the only hard game out there.
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 18 2013 08:40 GMT
#183
Remember the times where he was the go-to foreign terran, before Thorzain and Lucifron rose (and declined). Played an excellent brand of mech and I´m sad he couldn´t find back to that form.
Hope there´s less haters in LoL, but I kind of doubt it. It´s the internet.
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
September 18 2013 08:55 GMT
#184
Best of luck!

But i will unfollow
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 18 2013 08:59 GMT
#185
And many more to come..

tbh.. I'm not even complaining for obvious reasons.
T H C makes ppl happy
plgElwood
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany518 Posts
September 18 2013 08:59 GMT
#186
He will be back ! Like SeleCT :D
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
September 18 2013 09:00 GMT
#187
Awesome! i will definately watch your stream!

FreDMouL
Profile Joined April 2011
France59 Posts
September 18 2013 09:23 GMT
#188
Good Luck !!
My better is better than your better
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
September 18 2013 09:44 GMT
#189
Nope, I lost my passion for Starcraft II long time ago and I want to do something I love and enjoy doing, that something was once Starcraft II and it's time for me to move on.


I can understand that. Good luck with LoL.
Total Annihilation Zero
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 09:45:23
September 18 2013 09:45 GMT
#190
I will not judge you for your switch, people should do what makes them happy, but I am sad to see a good EU terran leaving the scene
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
romanianthunder
Profile Joined September 2013
Romania36 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 09:52:21
September 18 2013 09:50 GMT
#191
not a surprise really.for 90% of active foreign "proplayers" sc2 is actually a waste of time and possible impediment in their future life.90% of all foreign sc2 players do not win any money out of tournaments and do not get paid much money by their team.In this time they could be doing long term productive things like university,jobs etc.Most of the sc2 foreign progamers would probably earn more money and have a better future if they would just get a regular job.I am looking at the wcs rannking right now and the only foreigner going to blizzcon thus far is naniwa(1 out of many foreigners).Also by looking at the bottom of the wcs rankings I see guys such as qxc,noname,showtime,targa,user,neeb,starbuck,state,krass,show,theorgnic(isnt he retired?),bly puck,bunny sen who come from developed countries and over the long run would probably be making more money by just getting a regular job than being involved in esports. What is the biggest prospect for these players in the sc2 scene?Get a good placement at a wcs,maybe a semifinals at dreamhack and then enter years of slump?Many of them already have some years in the sc2 scene without major financial gains and achievements.It is a miracle that they are still hanging and wasting uni time and job time for a passion that does not offer them anything in the long run.
Literally due to no region locking there is no real "foreign scene in sc2".wcs na is korean beside scarlett and the only reason europe still gives the illusion of having many foreigners is because of lag so many koreans can not get easy wins.
Beastique is probably right to switch to lol although in the european scene it is not easy in lol either and also there are many amateur lol teams that once were in the lcs and now want to come back.
Not to mention in the sc2 scene very few foreigners appear becuase most foreign teams prefer to hire washed up koreans and put them in regional wcs stages plus the fact that as a foreigner you do not have many tournaments and even in those that exist you get knocked out in the first rounds by a korean.
My guess if that either studio play or region locking is not introduced in 2 years there will be maximum 5 foreigners together in the scene.
Everything for my country
HDRhineland
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany20 Posts
September 18 2013 09:50 GMT
#192
I only watched Beastyqt very rarely, because somehow I missed his streaming times regularly, but when I saw him playing, it was always entertaining. I loved the ladder sessions where he played unconventional stuff.

Also I like the fact that he writes about a general problem:
Last reason and biggest reason is just the haters. Yes, yes I know I shouldn't listen to them because there will always be haters, but what can I say it affected me..a lot. I don't think people that insult you on daily basis realize how much they can have affect on you, your play and your motivation. People you insult online are real people and everyone including me don't realize that there is actually real person behind the screen and some of them won't care about what you have to say, but some of them you will hurt.

This looks like just some writing about personal feelings, but it is actually a real problem many people do underestimate a lot. It is great to see that Beastyqt has the courage to post this!

GL with whatever comes next!
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
September 18 2013 09:55 GMT
#193
Remember getting owned by you in a WCS qualifier, was cool getting to play you. GG
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 18 2013 09:56 GMT
#194
So...he left SC2 for LoL because of haters and infestor/broodlords?
seriously ?
moo...for DRG
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
September 18 2013 10:09 GMT
#195
Love to see you in League! =D
NaNiwa | Innovation | Flash | DeMuslim ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
September 18 2013 10:16 GMT
#196
Gambit best team EU :D
Good luck, Beasty, and I hope the LoL community treats you better than the SC2 community
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
September 18 2013 10:21 GMT
#197
sad to see you go. Good luck in the future!
SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
September 18 2013 10:26 GMT
#198
LoL is harder mechanically than sc2, don't believe me then go youtube a video called "things faker does on zed". Hope you make professional scene in LoL, will be watching out for you.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
September 18 2013 10:31 GMT
#199
Good luck, Beastyqt! Your stream was always fun!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-18 10:34:41
September 18 2013 10:33 GMT
#200
Good luck Beasty !
You should go back to BW for having fun on a video game. (And I want to take my revenge from your nukes in craftcup, I didn't forget).
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
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