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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17691 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 00:30:18
September 06 2013 00:30 GMT
#21
edit:duh nvm
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insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
September 06 2013 00:31 GMT
#22
lol JD with so many points with all those second places.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17691 Posts
September 06 2013 00:35 GMT
#23
On September 06 2013 09:31 insanet wrote:
lol JD with so many points with all those second places.

he's even 2nd place in points lol
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
September 06 2013 00:36 GMT
#24
plz Flash, could you catch on fire or something?

would be awesome thx :3

The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 06 2013 00:50 GMT
#25
Chance we see a Foreigner other than Naniwa is pretty slim... Maybe Scarlett if she manages to dodge all the insanely good Koreans in NA.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17691 Posts
September 06 2013 01:10 GMT
#26
On September 06 2013 09:50 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
Chance we see a Foreigner other than Naniwa is pretty slim... Maybe Scarlett if she manages to dodge all the insanely good Koreans in NA.

I don't think Scarlett is playing this season. She's taking a break for her wrists. So no chance she makes it.
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Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
September 06 2013 01:19 GMT
#27
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
XtreMe_au
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia412 Posts
September 06 2013 01:28 GMT
#28
On September 06 2013 10:19 Jermstuddog wrote:
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?


Because USA and EU got their own GSL's.
It's the foreigners fault for not being clutch when required... Sorry.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 06 2013 01:29 GMT
#29
Anyone who is in Premier still has a chance. You can get up to 4500 points in just WCS alone, and another 1500 in IEM and DH. So anyone could potentially get 6000 points after this point and soar into the top 5.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
September 06 2013 01:35 GMT
#30
Bomber "being from" America is pretty apt in these times.
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fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
September 06 2013 01:37 GMT
#31
On September 06 2013 10:19 Jermstuddog wrote:
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?


They knew it would be almost all Koreans. They wanted the 16 "best players in the world."
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
September 06 2013 01:40 GMT
#32
On September 06 2013 10:19 Jermstuddog wrote:
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?

They want Blizzcon to be the 'best' tournament with the 'best' players. The system is actually fairly forgiving and gives a few foreigners a chance, while still being mostly Korean so we do indeed have the best. Naniwa has an ok shot at making it, and TBH he got pretty unlucky in WCS EU this season, also Scarlett would have a good chance if she was actually playing in S3. Also the entire RO8 from WCS EU S1 bombed in S2, so that hurt foreigners as no individual foreigner managed to bank that many WCS points even if foreigners in total got a lot of WCS points from Europe.
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 02:21:12
September 06 2013 01:48 GMT
#33
On September 06 2013 09:25 bludragen88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 09:12 Gatesleeper wrote:
On September 06 2013 08:19 bludragen88 wrote:
On September 06 2013 07:21 Gatesleeper wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:23 Die4Ever wrote:
Well here's a preview of a program I've been writing. It doesn't use aligulac yet so all matches are predicted at 50/50, and this is with guessed WCS AM brackets since they aren't released yet. And I'm still tweaking the output descriptions. Also not including Dreamhack or IEM yet since no brackets.


I'd like to know what the predicted points cutoff is. Is it under or over 3000? Judging by Naniwa's low % it seems like the cutoff is very likely to be over 2675.


Even including DH and IEM the points cutoff is likely to be in the realm of 3000. It is almost definitely over 2675 and almost definitely below MVP's 3575. It is nearly impossible to predict but my gut feeling is there will be a lot of new names in the season finals yet again, which should keep the points cutoff closer to like 2900.

Mm, okay. So it looks the only chance of a foreigner making top 16 is for one of them to go very far in Premier league this season, or if Naniwa does well at IEM.


Sadly that's how I see it as well. I'm really hoping someone can catch fire at the right time, but the only people I can reasonably see putting it together for that many rounds are Scarlett and Naniwa, except Nani lost one of his chances (WCS) and Scarlett is dealing with the wrist issues.

I suppose you could argue that TLO, Grubby, Lucifron, Vortix, Huk, Suppy, Demuslim or Jim (in no particular order) all have at some point in their career shown the requisite form, but man would it be a massive upset if any of them made it to blizzcon. I'm sure there's a few others who could belong on that list (Sase, Thorzain, etc) but regardless, I'm not holding my breath for it to happen.


Techically Grubby just needs to repeat what he did in season 2 and he'll be in ok shape. Not that its an easy thing to do, but at least he has done it, and done it very recently at that. So he's right there after Naniwa and Scarlett.
Naniwa NEEDS a good finish (probably top 4) at IEM to make it, then needs to hope the dice fall in his favor.
Scarlette is actually one of the most straightforward circumstances imo: if she gets top 6 in AM she'll have at least 3000 points and will probably be in, if she doesnt get top 6 shes out, plain and simple.
The only way any other foreigner besides those 3 makes it is if they win EU, or Jim wins AM (no, i dont think its even possible that a non-Jim/Scarlett foreigner can win )
TLO and Sase are both out of WCS so baring a TLO win at dreamhack, its impossible for them to make it.

Edit: Is it really confirmed that Scarlett is out?
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Jermstuddog
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2231 Posts
September 06 2013 02:14 GMT
#34
On September 06 2013 10:37 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 10:19 Jermstuddog wrote:
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?


They knew it would be almost all Koreans. They wanted the 16 "best players in the world."


"almost all korean" and "all korean" are two very different things.

It was already fairly well known that to find the best players in the world, all you had to do was turn on the GSL.

All Blizzard has done with this is undermine the validity of the GSL while simultaneously reducing global exposure of non-koreans.

It's like they're trying to deliberately kill the SC2 scene world-wide...
As it turns out, marines don't actually cost any money -Jinro
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
September 06 2013 02:19 GMT
#35
Ryung's chance is basically gone now unless he wins Dreamhack or something.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 06 2013 02:21 GMT
#36
On September 06 2013 11:19 Larkin wrote:
Ryung's chance is basically gone now unless he wins Dreamhack or something.


He would have to win both IEM and DH to get slightly above 3000 points.
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-06 02:29:32
September 06 2013 02:23 GMT
#37
On September 06 2013 11:19 Larkin wrote:
Ryung's chance is basically gone now unless he wins Dreamhack or something.

Ryung only has 1600 points, so even a DH win would only bring him to 2350, which to be honest is not going to be enough.
Edit: whoops, totally beaten by Dodgin
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17691 Posts
September 06 2013 02:26 GMT
#38
anyone know when they're releasing the WCS AM brackets? I'd like to update my predictions with them.
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Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
September 06 2013 02:27 GMT
#39
On September 06 2013 11:14 Jermstuddog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 10:37 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On September 06 2013 10:19 Jermstuddog wrote:
About the only positive I can see from this whole thing is that hopefully Blizzard realizes what a bad idea this whole WCS thing has been.

The Blizzcon championship is going to look like just another GSL. Why did we go through all this trouble to exclude all non-koreans from competing at blizzcon?


They knew it would be almost all Koreans. They wanted the 16 "best players in the world."


"almost all korean" and "all korean" are two very different things.

It was already fairly well known that to find the best players in the world, all you had to do was turn on the GSL.

All Blizzard has done with this is undermine the validity of the GSL while simultaneously reducing global exposure of non-koreans.

It's like they're trying to deliberately kill the SC2 scene world-wide...


Im sorry you feel that way. Personally I think the hype generated by WCS AM and WCS EU especially did quite the opposite.
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
TyrionSC2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States411 Posts
September 06 2013 02:50 GMT
#40
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