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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 01:44:27
September 05 2013 01:41 GMT
#41
On September 05 2013 10:37 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:17 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:11 bo1b wrote:
Rain should be rank 3 imo, he did reasonably well in proleague.

Trolling aside it's good to see a new power rank

Despite jaedong being my favourite zerg, at this juncture in time I really disagree with him being 4th on the list.


Why is that? He made back to back finals in august (wcs AM and WCS finals) beating good players as a result.

Tbh I don't agree with Taeja being at 2 (not saying Jaedong should be, honestly 2 is hard to say who I would put, but I just don't feel it should be Taeja).

I just feel that going 0-8 vs terrans in finals is pretty good reason to not put him as 4. He would probably be the best player in the world if his zvt was better, but it's not and he's not.

Maybe I'm just being overly conservative, but being top5 in a power rank to me means not having a crippling weakness.


Well it was all in the finals when he got 4-0'd. I mean I just don't see losing 4-0 twice in the finals (to good players) being seen as not a good player. Taeja has only made 1 final all year where as jaedong has made way more (unfortunately hasn't won any). While I know this is only for august, making 2 finals should count for something even if getting 4-0'd.

I mean maru won the OSL then took an early bomb out of korea finals. Dunno I just don't see losing twice in the finals as a bad thing or not being seen as a top 5 player especially when the players been doing it for the past few months (I know this is augusts ranking).

Finals is still an amazing result especially being able to do it back to back. I feel like people put too much emphasis on winning tournaments, there can only be 1 winner and making the finals is no easy feat either, just like winning it.

On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.


That and bomber lost to rain in the semi finals of wcs korea. He deserves #1 for sure.

On September 05 2013 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pretty much don't agree with anything.

You change the rankings way too much from one month. How could you move Innovation and Rain down so low? They've been so dominant recently. How could you put Bomber into the best player spot after like what, one good tournament? This is all silly. Jaedong top 4 is still a month or two early.

Please consider the past 3-4 months when making the ranking please =/ Sorry about criticism, I just feel like this adds more confusion to what's happening in the scene opposed to who is really doing well long-term.


How many times does jaedong (or any good player) have to make the finals before he can be deemed worthy of top 5? :/
When I think of something else, something will go here
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2013 01:41 GMT
#42
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 01:42:42
September 05 2013 01:42 GMT
#43
On September 05 2013 10:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Pretty much don't agree with anything.

You change the rankings way too much from one month. How could you move Innovation and Rain down so low? They've been so dominant recently. How could you put Bomber into the best player spot after like what, one good tournament? This is all silly. Jaedong top 4 is still a month or two early.

Please consider the past 3-4 months when making the ranking please =/ Sorry about criticism, I just feel like this adds more confusion to what's happening in the scene opposed to who is really doing well long-term.

Read the OP

Results: Obviously, this will be the basis of any power rank. And since this is a monthly power rank, we'll be mainly focusing on results from the last month, that is the month of August. Past performances are taken into account as well, but with decreasing weight over time.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 05 2013 01:45 GMT
#44
On September 05 2013 10:41 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:37 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:17 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:11 bo1b wrote:
Rain should be rank 3 imo, he did reasonably well in proleague.

Trolling aside it's good to see a new power rank

Despite jaedong being my favourite zerg, at this juncture in time I really disagree with him being 4th on the list.


Why is that? He made back to back finals in august (wcs AM and WCS finals) beating good players as a result.

Tbh I don't agree with Taeja being at 2 (not saying Jaedong should be, honestly 2 is hard to say who I would put, but I just don't feel it should be Taeja).

I just feel that going 0-8 vs terrans in finals is pretty good reason to not put him as 4. He would probably be the best player in the world if his zvt was better, but it's not and he's not.

Maybe I'm just being overly conservative, but being top5 in a power rank to me means not having a crippling weakness.


Well it was all in the finals when he got 4-0'd. I mean I just don't see losing 4-0 twice in the finals (to good players) being seen as not a good player. Taeja has only made 1 final all year where as jaedong has made way more (unfortunately hasn't won any). While I know this is only for august, making 2 finals should count for something even if getting 4-0'd.

I mean maru won the OSL then took an early bomb out of korea finals. Dunno I just don't see losing twice in the finals as a bad thing or not being seen as a top 5 player especially when the players been doing it for the past few months (I know this is augusts ranking).

Finals is still an amazing result especially being able to do it back to back. I feel like people put too much emphasis on winning tournaments, there can only be 1 winner and making the finals is no easy feat either, just like winning it.

I don't really agree with maru being #3, but as certain people have stated before, results from wcs tends to really bump people up on the power rank.

Maybe it's just my disappointment that jaedong didn't win wcs europe finals speaking through. Oh well.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:46 GMT
#45
On September 05 2013 10:41 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:37 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:17 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:11 bo1b wrote:
Rain should be rank 3 imo, he did reasonably well in proleague.

Trolling aside it's good to see a new power rank

Despite jaedong being my favourite zerg, at this juncture in time I really disagree with him being 4th on the list.


Why is that? He made back to back finals in august (wcs AM and WCS finals) beating good players as a result.

Tbh I don't agree with Taeja being at 2 (not saying Jaedong should be, honestly 2 is hard to say who I would put, but I just don't feel it should be Taeja).

I just feel that going 0-8 vs terrans in finals is pretty good reason to not put him as 4. He would probably be the best player in the world if his zvt was better, but it's not and he's not.

Maybe I'm just being overly conservative, but being top5 in a power rank to me means not having a crippling weakness.


Well it was all in the finals when he got 4-0'd. I mean I just don't see losing 4-0 twice in the finals (to good players) being seen as not a good player. Taeja has only made 1 final all year where as jaedong has made way more (unfortunately hasn't won any). While I know this is only for august, making 2 finals should count for something even if getting 4-0'd.

I mean maru won the OSL then took an early bomb out of korea finals. Dunno I just don't see losing twice in the finals as a bad thing or not being seen as a top 5 player especially when the players been doing it for the past few months (I know this is augusts ranking).

Finals is still an amazing result especially being able to do it back to back. I feel like people put too much emphasis on winning tournaments, there can only be 1 winner and making the finals is no easy feat either, just like winning it.

Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.


That and bomber lost to rain in the semi finals of wcs korea. He deserves #1 for sure.


And Rain lost to Maru in WCS KR who lost to Scarlett who lost to...

There rankings aren't about x > y > z
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
September 05 2013 01:49 GMT
#46
the standard monthly tournament results rank
rip prime
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
September 05 2013 01:52 GMT
#47
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2013 01:53 GMT
#48
On September 05 2013 10:52 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?


No it wasn't okay, I disagreed with it then and I still do now.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:54 GMT
#49
Jaedong should be in #2 spot ! he cant be Kong if he is not on the #2 spot always !

putting my rant aside .. i agree with taeja and bomber being on the top spot .. they are on fire no doubt about it
this is a quote
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 01:55 GMT
#50
On September 05 2013 10:52 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?


I didn't have a hand in that ranking so it was wrong.

Now I do so it's right. 8)
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 02:00:33
September 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#51
On September 05 2013 10:46 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:41 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:37 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:17 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:11 bo1b wrote:
Rain should be rank 3 imo, he did reasonably well in proleague.

Trolling aside it's good to see a new power rank

Despite jaedong being my favourite zerg, at this juncture in time I really disagree with him being 4th on the list.


Why is that? He made back to back finals in august (wcs AM and WCS finals) beating good players as a result.

Tbh I don't agree with Taeja being at 2 (not saying Jaedong should be, honestly 2 is hard to say who I would put, but I just don't feel it should be Taeja).

I just feel that going 0-8 vs terrans in finals is pretty good reason to not put him as 4. He would probably be the best player in the world if his zvt was better, but it's not and he's not.

Maybe I'm just being overly conservative, but being top5 in a power rank to me means not having a crippling weakness.


Well it was all in the finals when he got 4-0'd. I mean I just don't see losing 4-0 twice in the finals (to good players) being seen as not a good player. Taeja has only made 1 final all year where as jaedong has made way more (unfortunately hasn't won any). While I know this is only for august, making 2 finals should count for something even if getting 4-0'd.

I mean maru won the OSL then took an early bomb out of korea finals. Dunno I just don't see losing twice in the finals as a bad thing or not being seen as a top 5 player especially when the players been doing it for the past few months (I know this is augusts ranking).

Finals is still an amazing result especially being able to do it back to back. I feel like people put too much emphasis on winning tournaments, there can only be 1 winner and making the finals is no easy feat either, just like winning it.

On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.


That and bomber lost to rain in the semi finals of wcs korea. He deserves #1 for sure.


And Rain lost to Maru in WCS KR who lost to Scarlett who lost to...

There rankings aren't about x > y > z


I know that I was providing examples (I am fine with Maru being as high as he is considering he won WCS KR beating very good players to do so).
When I think of something else, something will go here
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 02:00 GMT
#52
On September 05 2013 11:00 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:46 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:41 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:37 bo1b wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:17 blade55555 wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:11 bo1b wrote:
Rain should be rank 3 imo, he did reasonably well in proleague.

Trolling aside it's good to see a new power rank

Despite jaedong being my favourite zerg, at this juncture in time I really disagree with him being 4th on the list.


Why is that? He made back to back finals in august (wcs AM and WCS finals) beating good players as a result.

Tbh I don't agree with Taeja being at 2 (not saying Jaedong should be, honestly 2 is hard to say who I would put, but I just don't feel it should be Taeja).

I just feel that going 0-8 vs terrans in finals is pretty good reason to not put him as 4. He would probably be the best player in the world if his zvt was better, but it's not and he's not.

Maybe I'm just being overly conservative, but being top5 in a power rank to me means not having a crippling weakness.


Well it was all in the finals when he got 4-0'd. I mean I just don't see losing 4-0 twice in the finals (to good players) being seen as not a good player. Taeja has only made 1 final all year where as jaedong has made way more (unfortunately hasn't won any). While I know this is only for august, making 2 finals should count for something even if getting 4-0'd.

I mean maru won the OSL then took an early bomb out of korea finals. Dunno I just don't see losing twice in the finals as a bad thing or not being seen as a top 5 player especially when the players been doing it for the past few months (I know this is augusts ranking).

Finals is still an amazing result especially being able to do it back to back. I feel like people put too much emphasis on winning tournaments, there can only be 1 winner and making the finals is no easy feat either, just like winning it.

On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.


That and bomber lost to rain in the semi finals of wcs korea. He deserves #1 for sure.


And Rain lost to Maru in WCS KR who lost to Scarlett who lost to...

There rankings aren't about x > y > z


I know that I was providing examples (I am fine with Maru being as high as he is considering he won WCS KR beating very good players to do so).


It's all opinions anyway
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 05 2013 02:01 GMT
#53
I mostly agree with the power rank except for INnoVation's ranking (he should be top 5 at least).
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 05 2013 02:01 GMT
#54
pfffft no way what I say is fact! .

Of course it's all opinion :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 02:03 GMT
#55
On September 05 2013 11:01 blade55555 wrote:
pfffft no way what I say is fact! .

Of course it's all opinion :D


I wanted Scarlett and Sora on it so there'd be more debate and anger :p
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 05 2013 02:04 GMT
#56
On September 05 2013 10:55 lichter wrote:
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On September 05 2013 10:52 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?


I didn't have a hand in that ranking so it was wrong.

Now I do so it's right. 8)

They let trial writers vote? God help us
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 05 2013 02:06 GMT
#57
On September 05 2013 11:04 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:55 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:52 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?


I didn't have a hand in that ranking so it was wrong.

Now I do so it's right. 8)

They let trial writers vote? God help us

The worlds slowly turning to shit
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 05 2013 02:08 GMT
#58
On September 05 2013 11:04 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2013 10:55 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:52 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:41 Dodgin wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:39 figq wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:35 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2013 10:27 figq wrote:
Lol, this is ridiculous. Probably the most absurd one to date.

With the now official crowning of Bomber as "the best in the world" (lololol), I hereby declare the new "curse" of winning a WCS Season Final. You win one, you get super mega ultra hyped, and before late, you drop miserably off the chart. Innovation check, Bomber soon to check too.


You did read this part right?

A review, not a predictor: The PR is a rating based on previous results, not a scouting report for who will do well in the future. We can't believe this is not completely obvious.
And I don't presume that you predict anything. It's just the whole "oh the best etc etc". The curse of WCS Season Champions is not directly related to this, with it or without it, it just kinda happens on its own. People take winning this thing way too seriously as if it actually means the guy is the best, when he could easily not be.


How are you ever going to know who's truly best, stay in their team houses, watch them practice and decide for yourself who plays the best? Bomber won the biggest and most important tournament, so in that month he was the best. It seems pretty simple to me.

I'll give you an example. Soulkey won WCS KR over Innovation. The PR came right after it. It still had Innovation as #1, despite he just lost a very important final in the most important region. (it was before the season world finals) That was okay, right?


I didn't have a hand in that ranking so it was wrong.

Now I do so it's right. 8)

They let trial writers vote? God help us


They just give anyone hammers? God help us :p
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
September 05 2013 02:17 GMT
#59
Wooh Bomber and PartinG! =D

Also, even though I don't think it was in August, PartinG was seeded into the Ro16, not the Ro8. He had to 2-0 JangBi as well.
dastrokes
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada9 Posts
September 05 2013 02:19 GMT
#60
Innovation will bounce back to No.1 in September.
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