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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/LQAgYSK.jpg) Removed in the past two months:  InCaSanGenius GanZi viOLetTOPEveAzubu roster remaining: BBoongBBoongSleepSuperNovaSymbolVINESThe team looks to be close to official disbandment at this point. According to a picture taken at the GSL last night, GSTL will start up again on September 3rd. With AZUBU's current roster it seems unlikely that they will participate in the next season of GSTL. 
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Fuck this :/ so much bad news lately. I liked Zubbuuuu too | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
Supernova such bad luck with teams T_TTTTT_T_T_T__T_T_T | ||
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Thrillz
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I hope Genius finds a team, but some of these players aren't so desired I think. I'm rooting for Symbol though | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:10 Torte de Lini wrote: Ooh, I like this post more. I hope Genius finds a team, but some of these players aren't so desired I think. I'm rooting for Symbol though Well, Symbol will be top pick up for sure, he is the only one here that is consistent, always was a top player, so I don't worry for him, but we will see about other players. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5214 Posts
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Also seems kind of weird that players are gradually leaving on their own, without being removed or the team disbanding as a whole. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:17 Talin wrote: I endorse Dodgin's thread. Also seems kind of weird that players are gradually leaving on their own, without being removed or the team disbanding as a whole. That is actually not that weird, they see that team is falling apart, or they know something that we don't. | ||
TheEmulator
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:19 Ramiz1989 wrote: That is actually not that weird, they see that team is falling apart, or they know something that we don't. It could just be contracts all expiring and they have no intention to renew them. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:20 TheEmulator wrote: Guys I have a problem, which thread do I close flip a coin, I don't particularly care. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:20 TheEmulator wrote: Guys I have a problem, which thread do I close fionn posted first, i protest | ||
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TheEmulator
28088 Posts
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adymus
Romania140 Posts
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:24 TheEmulator wrote: And the winner is... lol poor fionn | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
What's Fionn doing posting Starcraft news anyway? Gotta go write those LoL recaps. | ||
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Aeromi
France14459 Posts
Millenium could recrut San btw. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50120 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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oGsTOP
Korea (South)19 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Daeracon
Sweden199 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:14 PVJ wrote: What's with Iris? He's the one who I care about the most. Byun Hyung Tae T_T Honestly wouldn't be surprised to see him retire... or maybe go back to playing BW? :/ But yeah, none of this is any surprise at all considering AZUBU aren't sponsored. | ||
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TheEmulator
28088 Posts
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
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KaiserKieran
United States615 Posts
Just seems like I need some good news ATM. | ||
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Mirham
Denmark44 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:51 KaiserKieran wrote: AZUBU stop playing with my heart. It seemed so stacked but now..... Just seems like I need some good news ATM. Do you not understand the fact that roster strength notwithstanding, there is no sponsor paying or supporting the team? I really don't see how people can still be hopeful for AZUBU as a team. | ||
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asdfOu
United States2089 Posts
lol but it's gonna be Acer. fuck this shit. | ||
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jcroisdale
United States1543 Posts
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
I wonder how much the "main" Azubu is actually supporting the team. Or if the team will stick together and look for a new sponsor. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:06 bokchoi wrote: Maybe Azubu's just cutting the perceived "dead" weight. Maybe funding is drying up and they can't support as big of a team. There is no AZUBU. The SC2 team has not had a sponsor for a couple of months now? Maybe a bit more, I can't quite remember. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:07 MasterOfPuppets wrote: There is no AZUBU. The SC2 team has not had a sponsor for a couple of months now? Maybe a bit more, I can't quite remember. I wanna say there was a statement that while Azubu Korea shutdown Azubu HQ in Germany would still continue to sponsor the team. How much that sponsorship amounts to or how much of a load of shit that was I can't say. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:14 PVJ wrote: What's with Iris? He's the one who I care about the most. Wait what, CJ.Iris was on Azubu? I didn't even notice when he switched to SC2 lol, I thought he retired already. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:10 bokchoi wrote: I wanna say there was a statement that while Azubu Korea shutdown Azubu HQ in Germany would still continue to sponsor the team. How much that sponsorship amounts to or how much of a load of shit that was I can't say. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.. AZUBU HQ in Germany does not exist. People have investigated it. I'm not gonna sift through those couple of threads to find it now, but it's all there. | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
Now my hope is that all the Azubu players find a new warm home that provides them with plenty of opportunities to continue to shine. In particular I hope SuperNova and Genius find good teams and I wish them the best of luck in that regard. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:11 i.of.the.storm wrote: Wait what, CJ.Iris was on Azubu? I didn't even notice when he switched to SC2 lol, I thought he retired already. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/AZUBU he is/was a coach. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:12 Destructicon wrote: Sad that Azubu turned out to be shady, it provided a home for a lot of talented and extremely good Code S level players. Now my hope is that all the Azubu players find a new warm home that provides them with plenty of opportunities to continue to shine. In particular I hope SuperNova and Genius find good teams and I wish them the best of luck in that regard. Honestly at this point in time players like Symbol, san, Genius, BBoongBBoong and SuperNoVa would be worthwhile additions to pretty much any team's roster. And there's lots of teams that would need players of this caliber, both in Korea and outside of it. So I'm not worried for them. As for Sleep, VINES and TOP they're not exactly on the same level, so perhaps retirement seems a more likely option, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised to see them on a lower profile foreigner team or maybe as coaches on a Korean team? We'll just have to wait and see how it all turns out. :/ | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
P.S. I tried editing their statuses at Liquipedia. My first try so please tell me if I did something wrong. Thank you! | ||
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ShakkaFL
Norway647 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:25 ShakkaFL wrote: Genius should just go back to Mvp, he hasn't done anything worthwhile after he joined Azubu He 4 killed Startale in the GSTL playoffs when no one expected it, that was a good night. Other than that, yeah not much. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
But I hope San and Genius find a team soon! | ||
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jeri
Germany335 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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M.R. McThundercrotch
United States265 Posts
On August 30 2013 19:02 asdfOu wrote: SanPrime This would make me so happy. His transformation from SadZenith to ManZenith is still one of my favorite storylines in SC2. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
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QCD
Suriname81 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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banjoetheredskin
United States744 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:01 RagequitBM wrote: Is San a good player? Haven't followed SC2 for a year or so, but he was my favorite player ever since he blocked his nexus with a canon 3 years ago. Well, he got 2nd place at ASUS ROG Summer, only losing series to TaeJa (1-3) and Happy (2-3), while going undefeated against all non-terrans he met (including Hyun, DRG, and whoever). Yet failed to qualify for EU Premier in ONLINE play (while destroying all the qualifiers and screwing over Aligulac and TLPD). So yeah, i would say he is pretty good. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On August 30 2013 21:01 RagequitBM wrote: Is San a good player? Haven't followed SC2 for a year or so, but he was my favorite player ever since he blocked his nexus with a canon 3 years ago. Was is not a plyon? Once San defeated Nestea, Boxer and Ensnare in Code-S, he became ManZenith. Today he is one of the heavier hitters in team leagues. | ||
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EnumaAvalon
Philippines3613 Posts
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warzag
France259 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
after TI3 subsides not only dota team has roster shuffle apparently it cause stir in SC2 too | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
Sad but not unexpected. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Seem not yet. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:27 ne4aJIb wrote: combine them We seriously need a merge thread feature on this board. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Best of luck out there. | ||
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wun4
Slovakia91 Posts
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Greendotz
United Kingdom2053 Posts
On August 30 2013 18:08 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: UGH! Fuck this :/ so much bad news lately. I liked Zubbuuuu too Lets be honest though this has been a long time coming. For all it's shady activities I'm actually amazed Azubu has honoured the contracts of the players until they expire rather than just dropping them (although I doubt any of them are on actual salaries so "honouring" the contract wouldn't be that hard). | ||
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astray71
United States325 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Vete
Germany190 Posts
On August 30 2013 22:32 boxerfred wrote: Gogo AcerSymbol soon! I predictr AcerSan/Genius because they haven't got toss players. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
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Tobblish
Sweden6404 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12172 Posts
On August 30 2013 23:45 wun4 wrote: Would like to see Liquid`San. Oh man that would be awesome | ||
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zmsFlood
Finland169 Posts
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TRpredator
Russian Federation101 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On August 31 2013 00:44 Vete wrote: I predictr AcerSan/Genius because they haven't got toss players. Acer would be shopping more @ STX instead if they looked for a Protoss. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 31 2013 01:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: Liquid`San please. Everyone knows this is what TaeJa wants. If I had to choose a name to be paired with the Liquid tag, it would be ByuN. | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
On August 31 2013 01:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: Liquid`San please. Everyone knows this is what TaeJa wants. Quoting this all the way, I feel that San would be perfect on Liquid. -talent? Check. -nice guy? Check. -huge balls? Turbocheck. Otherwise, he would have quitted years ago. -protoss? Check. Liquid's rooster would benefit him. Nazgul pls | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
really unfortunate, wonder if they will pick up another player before playoffs (if they make it)? not sure though.. ugh. -_- | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 31 2013 02:46 CCa1ss1e wrote: thanks for this, especially the GSTL update.. been wondering for a while.. hehe. really unfortunate, wonder if they will pick up another player before playoffs (if they make it)? not sure though.. ugh. -_- Pick a player up with what money? | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:02 Havik_ wrote: This doesn't surprise me at all. This game isn't big enough to support all these teams and all these players. At the end of this you may have roughly 10 teams in Korea total and a lot of players will have retired due to not being competitive enough. It has less to do with the scene being over-saturated or the game not being able to support it, and more with the fact that the team has been effectively sponsor-less for like a couple of months if not more. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
young stallions will not attend any "courage" tournaments to became "famous" because it seems like no one can guarantee you will get your salary, that your team will not disband etc. Foreign scene seems much better but there aren't any new players either. Year 2013. will be remembered as first year of unique and great tournament (WCS) but it will be remembered as year of disbands and retirements. I mean, that intreview with Flash gave me so much insight and I understand why Jangbi decided to quit. There is no joy anymore, they played BW because they wanted to, they play sc2 because they have to. BW finals were played on big stadiums in Korea, now Proleague finals have maybe 100 people watching it live :/ Blizzard got involved to much and that is not their game, they should do what they are best in - game development. Leave game "spread" to those with more knowledge. I hope there will be some good news soon... | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:06 purgerinho wrote: hm.. so, what is the future of sc2 in korea? young stallions will not attend any "courage" tournaments to became "famous" because it seems like no one can guarantee you will get your salary, that your team will not disband etc. Foreign scene seems much better but there aren't any new players either. Year 2013. will be remembered as first year of unique and great tournament (WCS) but it will be remembered as year of disbands and retirements. I mean, that intreview with Flash gave me so much insight and I understand why Jangbi decided to quit. There is no joy anymore, they played BW because they wanted to, they play sc2 because they have to. I hope there will be some good news soon... Ditto to this. Also what interview with Flash are you talking about? | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:07 Havik_ wrote: Ditto to this. Also what interview with Flash are you talking about? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=426074 | ||
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
And sad news for everyone | ||
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GhostFiber
Australia88 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:06 purgerinho wrote: hm.. so, what is the future of sc2 in korea? young stallions will not attend any "courage" tournaments to became "famous" because it seems like no one can guarantee you will get your salary, that your team will not disband etc. Foreign scene seems much better but there aren't any new players either. Year 2013. will be remembered as first year of unique and great tournament (WCS) but it will be remembered as year of disbands and retirements. I mean, that intreview with Flash gave me so much insight and I understand why Jangbi decided to quit. There is no joy anymore, they played BW because they wanted to, they play sc2 because they have to. BW finals were played on big stadiums in Korea, now Proleague finals have maybe 100 people watching it live :/ Blizzard got involved to much and that is not their game, they should do what they are best in - game development. Leave game "spread" to those with more knowledge. I hope there will be some good news soon... Well written. Problem was locking down Starcraft II too much (no LAN play,sending lawyers onto people who make LAN,etc) and suing KeSPA sealed its fate. The game lost any chance of gaining explosive momentum. There just aren't enough tournaments compared to the amount of teams and players out there. This was always going to happen. Blizzard reaped what they sowed, by overly protecting their IP now they are alone. With no friends they lack the expertise so it will continue to be a sinking ship. You need 'people passion' to qualify as the father of E-sports. It really sucks for Starcraft fans, but truthfully this is good for our future. If a company like Blizzard was successful it would have opened the door for other companies like EA to join in and contaminant the scene with their dictatorship. Remember the Starcraft e-sports scene was never invented by any company, it was made by 'you' the passionate fans! | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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CrazyHunter
United States83 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:26 Nyarly wrote: If we say Liquid'San enough times, maybe it will happen. And sad news for everyone LiquidSan! LiquidSan! Seriously though... Is Liquid looking to pick up more players? It would be nice seeing more protoss rep on the Liquid lineup. Sad news for Genius and San, with some luck they'll have new teams soon. Hope to see that they keep playing, I'll admit, seeing B4 in GSL without a team was a little depressing. | ||
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WetSocks
United States953 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On August 31 2013 09:00 WetSocks wrote: I think Genius really shouldn't have left MVP... Yes. He needs to rejoin. It can be like old times... | ||
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Dragoonstorm7
United States599 Posts
On August 31 2013 03:06 purgerinho wrote: hm.. so, what is the future of sc2 in korea? young stallions will not attend any "courage" tournaments to became "famous" because it seems like no one can guarantee you will get your salary, that your team will not disband etc. Foreign scene seems much better but there aren't any new players either. Year 2013. will be remembered as first year of unique and great tournament (WCS) but it will be remembered as year of disbands and retirements. I mean, that intreview with Flash gave me so much insight and I understand why Jangbi decided to quit. There is no joy anymore, they played BW because they wanted to, they play sc2 because they have to. BW finals were played on big stadiums in Korea, now Proleague finals have maybe 100 people watching it live :/ Blizzard got involved to much and that is not their game, they should do what they are best in - game development. Leave game "spread" to those with more knowledge. I hope there will be some good news soon... this. exactly this. | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
On August 31 2013 09:00 WetSocks wrote: I think Genius really shouldn't have left MVP... you know atlast the reason why he left ? i dont think any player in the world would stay in a house where he is ranked second best player and nobody gives a damn . | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
Supernova has had such terrible luck, i really want him on a stable team ;; Edit: dafuq iphon changed ogs to PGA T_T | ||
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johnnyapplec
United States33 Posts
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Taipoka
Brazil1224 Posts
On August 31 2013 04:04 GhostFiber wrote: Well written. Problem was locking down Starcraft II too much (no LAN play,sending lawyers onto people who make LAN,etc) and suing KeSPA sealed its fate. The game lost any chance of gaining explosive momentum. There just aren't enough tournaments compared to the amount of teams and players out there. This was always going to happen. Blizzard reaped what they sowed, by overly protecting their IP now they are alone. With no friends they lack the expertise so it will continue to be a sinking ship. You need 'people passion' to qualify as the father of E-sports. It really sucks for Starcraft fans, but truthfully this is good for our future. If a company like Blizzard was successful it would have opened the door for other companies like EA to join in and contaminant the scene with their dictatorship. Remember the Starcraft e-sports scene was never invented by any company, it was made by 'you' the passionate fans! Well writen by both of you. It makes you think... | ||
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ShootingQuasar
United Kingdom44 Posts
so sad, so many retirements and sponsors going bust and teams disbanding , anyone know if similar things are happening in Dota 2 and League of Legends professional teams? | ||
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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KimchiNuke
United States25 Posts
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