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This is a heated issue, but please keep the debate civil.
Personal insult is not 'discussion' and will be moderated. -Page 17
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
August 16 2013 09:18 GMT
#161
If Genna and TB think Take deliberately screw their team over,they should openly say it,not beat around the bush.If thats not the case i dont really see any point of all of this.
Freelancer veteran
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
August 16 2013 09:25 GMT
#162
She seems like a bit of a pain to deal with professionally, posting those E-Mails was an unprofessional move.

Women in positions like Genna sometimes create drama on purpose, not saying that's what this is because I don't know her personally, but to me that's what it looks like.

Goodluck to TB being forced to burn bridges in his career because of her, as well as picking up and running the team by himself now.

pro toez
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
August 16 2013 09:27 GMT
#163
Oh god, the amount of shit in this thread...
The situation is fucked up and makes me quite sad, but reading the comments is ten times worse. I don't know why I keep doing it.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
August 16 2013 09:29 GMT
#164
Im sure she will read all the comments, so Id like to say Im sorry shes leaving; She had the best intentions and its sad to see her depart from starcraft scene.
Schandro
Profile Joined May 2011
57 Posts
August 16 2013 09:32 GMT
#165
This hate campaign TB is trying to start against Take is disgusting and wrong.
itsbecca
Profile Joined October 2012
United States28 Posts
August 16 2013 09:34 GMT
#166
I have to wonder if the people looking down their noses on TB have ever been in love, much less married (love + time + commitment). Seeing your significant other in pain is such a horrible feeling and you would burn the world to make them feel better.

As others have said, was just an unfortunate situation overall, no one's reactions were anything but reasonable given their circumstances I'd say...
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
August 16 2013 09:35 GMT
#167
On August 16 2013 17:10 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 14:04 TheButtonmen wrote:
On August 16 2013 14:04 theking1 wrote:
"
Dennis : okay i see but lets be honest thier chances doing pretty okay at the finale are there if we cant find a deal at all it would be the worst solution right? the point is i dont have big budgets that i can pay from my own pocket 3-4-5 flights

Genna : Worst case scenario, we forfeit and Millenium takes our slot.

Dennis : but before a team is not coming i really wanna help and even willing to pay some of my money into it thats why i ask i just try to find options

Genna : I'll have to talk to John about it to see if we have anything leftover from our sponsor pool for the month.

Dennis : okay and i will talk to acer about it if they would cover another 1500+ i think i am willing to help to on top
"


"Totalbiscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit 16 Aug
Oh and Fuck Take by the way"

Take offers to help them with money and this is what he gets.really do not know why the genna-tb couple feels they ar emore entitled than anyone else in esports.


Take threatened legal actions against her. That's what prompted the fuck Take not the tournament.

He hoped. He wasnt threating legal actions agaisnt her.



Because saying "I hope you can get sued over this" is much less nasty than saying "I'm considering suing you for this", right?

I can understand Take being upset but if anything I find the former mindset to be far more weaselly and nasty than the latter. The second one at least can be presented as making a statement of being hurt by someone's actions and a expressing a desire to seek recompense on it. The first one is just petty horribleness, as if taking a sadistic pleasure in the idea of taking legal action and causing the other person pain and difficulties.

Feel bad for Genna, must have all been very hard for her. Best wishes to her and TB.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
August 16 2013 09:38 GMT
#168
On August 16 2013 18:32 Schandro wrote:
This hate campaign TB is trying to start against Take is disgusting and wrong.


i agree wholeheartedly. Take has nothing to do with the real problems the Bains seem to have.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
August 16 2013 09:39 GMT
#169
On August 16 2013 18:29 Ryps wrote:
Im sure she will read all the comments, so Id like to say Im sorry shes leaving; She had the best intentions and its sad to see her depart from starcraft scene.


I hope she doesn't... If this is what she had to deal with on some days during her manager job, I'm wondering how she made it this far. I have nothing but respect for her and some comments on her blog made me even sick, I can't imagine how it is for her.

Keep going Genna, you were very successful even if this community cannot appreciate it at large.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
Gianttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
August 16 2013 09:42 GMT
#170
Remember that winners gain if they don't care about pain. Everyone has their struggles, doesn't mean you have to stop what you do

Don't admit your loss to the losers!
Winners: It is difficult, but it's possible.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
August 16 2013 09:43 GMT
#171
On August 16 2013 18:38 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 18:32 Schandro wrote:
This hate campaign TB is trying to start against Take is disgusting and wrong.


i agree wholeheartedly. Take has nothing to do with the real problems the Bains seem to have.


Yep.

The Bains need to work out their problems privately and stop airing their dirty laundry.

This could've all been handled in two Tweets

"Axiom is unable to attend ATC"

"Genna Bain steps down from Axiom"

pro toez
Czarnodziej
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland624 Posts
August 16 2013 09:45 GMT
#172
She obviously wasn't fit for this job. Doing business is not a walk in the park. And stirring public drama?

No respect for this lady.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
August 16 2013 09:46 GMT
#173
Hey Starcraft celebrities, could you please stop creating drama? Thanks?
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
nikoYO
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany131 Posts
August 16 2013 09:46 GMT
#174
On August 16 2013 18:11 Wormi wrote:
from sponsors/companies point of view this is like:
-"Take is a guy we can trust, he understands our interests."
-"we can´t talk to Axiom. if the negotiations don´t go well for them, it goes public."

guess who´ll get the contracts.



i wanted to say that thx nicely put.

this whole drama is axiom trying to save face and blame TaKe. Axiom was done, from a sponsor perspective, as soon as she posts private convos about sponsor funds / admin stuff.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
August 16 2013 09:55 GMT
#175
On August 16 2013 18:43 Littlesheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 18:38 Naphal wrote:
On August 16 2013 18:32 Schandro wrote:
This hate campaign TB is trying to start against Take is disgusting and wrong.


i agree wholeheartedly. Take has nothing to do with the real problems the Bains seem to have.


Yep.

The Bains need to work out their problems privately and stop airing their dirty laundry.

This could've all been handled in two Tweets

"Axiom is unable to attend ATC"

"Genna Bain steps down from Axiom"


The twitter shit that Axiom got for saying they weren't attending ATC is horrific.
Yes, you can say that "well there will be uninformed people spouting their ignorant opinions on twitter", but it's no real excuse for it.
Anyone who wanted to make sure that their side of the story came across, to show that Axiom did everything they could would have done the same.
When you're in the business to make sure your team/company gets the best press they can, having people going around saying "hurr why did you join a tournament if you couldn't make the offline finals?!" doesn't help with that.
I can see the need to show their side of the story.
It was just not done as well as it could have been. Then anger, then hate, then suffering.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
August 16 2013 10:02 GMT
#176
On August 16 2013 18:55 Gowerly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 18:43 Littlesheep wrote:
On August 16 2013 18:38 Naphal wrote:
On August 16 2013 18:32 Schandro wrote:
This hate campaign TB is trying to start against Take is disgusting and wrong.


i agree wholeheartedly. Take has nothing to do with the real problems the Bains seem to have.


Yep.

The Bains need to work out their problems privately and stop airing their dirty laundry.

This could've all been handled in two Tweets

"Axiom is unable to attend ATC"

"Genna Bain steps down from Axiom"


The twitter shit that Axiom got for saying they weren't attending ATC is horrific.
Yes, you can say that "well there will be uninformed people spouting their ignorant opinions on twitter", but it's no real excuse for it.
Anyone who wanted to make sure that their side of the story came across, to show that Axiom did everything they could would have done the same.
When you're in the business to make sure your team/company gets the best press they can, having people going around saying "hurr why did you join a tournament if you couldn't make the offline finals?!" doesn't help with that.
I can see the need to show their side of the story.
It was just not done as well as it could have been. Then anger, then hate, then suffering.


I think the E-Mails were posted out of frustration, I don't think it was to improve the teams image. Arguing on the internet, in public, is the worst press a team can get, even if you're right.

I think Genna just got frustrated.
pro toez
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 10:07:46
August 16 2013 10:07 GMT
#177
On August 16 2013 18:12 skatblast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 17:49 Arkani wrote:
i don't get it. how the f... can you release private conversations.. what did they hope to acomplish with that? creating drama so not going to the event is overshadowed? or did they go all in and hope that all their expenses get paid?



Idk, she kind of reminds me of slayers.jessica. Causing drama and expecting husband to pick up for it.

Pretty funny considering TB had quite the opinion about Jessica.
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
August 16 2013 10:07 GMT
#178
On August 16 2013 16:50 GTPGlitch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 16:34 Latty wrote:
See, when doing buiseness you have to be aware of stuff. And honestly participating in a team league, knowing there will be an offline final in germany and having no information about travel costs should trigger to ask about it. Not just assume that it will be like this or like that.

There clearly have been mistakes made by both sides, but to shit on TakeTV/Acer now is a bad move. As a Team its your responsibility to be aware of Information you need in order to participate. And running 2 companys and beeing a mother is gennas problem not anyone elses problem. So why mention that all the time...

And posting all these conversations is bullshit either, what does this proof? This only proofs that TakeTV tried to fix it, but still Axiom failed to notice that they had no information at all about the travel expenses.


They DIDN'T know there was going to be an offline final until they had already registered, and because of that Axiom assumed travel would be covered which it wasn't, and they posted proof of that, and then apparently Take shit on GB for posting her reasoning so that her team didn't get hated on. Thus, this.


ofc they knew .. genna postet the email from february where this is clearly stated! Take has done nothing wrong, but i guess its too hard to understand for people that have no idea how the basic buiseness relationship works.

You make sure you know everything, if you dont, you ask. If i would run my buiseness like they do esports i would be broke and homeless within a year..
"Nice, *claps* gogo kill kill, yeah bane speed, nice EU Power" Dimaga
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
August 16 2013 10:09 GMT
#179
On August 16 2013 19:07 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 18:12 skatblast wrote:
On August 16 2013 17:49 Arkani wrote:
i don't get it. how the f... can you release private conversations.. what did they hope to acomplish with that? creating drama so not going to the event is overshadowed? or did they go all in and hope that all their expenses get paid?



Idk, she kind of reminds me of slayers.jessica. Causing drama and expecting husband to pick up for it.

Pretty funny considering TB had quite the opinion about Jessica.


Difference is, Jessica had put reputation of her team on the line.
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
August 16 2013 10:10 GMT
#180
Too bad - lets hope the best for Axiom and their players.
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