EPTwho is the more accomplished person for the esports community?
Faults like this can happen. Nobody has to overreact that much.
Keep up the good work all and make things happen in the future like you
did in the past.
Genna Bain leaves Axiom - Page 7
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styLesdavis
Germany833 Posts
who is the more accomplished person for the esports community? Faults like this can happen. Nobody has to overreact that much. Keep up the good work all and make things happen in the future like you did in the past. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Hollick
Canada5 Posts
To me, this sounds like Genna really has had too much on her plate as a person to manage a team in the first place. It is clearly noted that she is a "CEO of 2 businesses and a mother", while TB also states in his soundcloud that she has been diagnosed with clinical depression. I understand mental health being diagnosed with general anxiety disorder earlier this year with a prescription which has helped majorly to get rid of the disorder. However, the constant throwing around that "I am a mother and a CEO of 2 businesses is an excuse bottom line. Do you think successful CEO's and business personalities go around telling other CEO's their personal info on why they were unable to get something done, and or follow up? What she does day to day is clearly a busy schedule, but if you can't handle it, then Genna you've made the right move to get out of eSports. We're finding out more and more that it really is not nearly financially stable as we think or will be any time soon. I think the decision you made in not sending Axiom to ATC was the right one, and as you stated to Take, you can't risk financial instability for the sake of getting your team there, especially when top prize didn't even cover the cost to get there, all-in, in the first place. So kudos for that. The second part of this whole situation I do understand is the response from Take, seeing his private emails and Skype conversations aired out to the entire community. This is not something that the community should be seeing. It's just asking for a sh** storm. Instead, it simply could have been handled by a blog post without the private conversation/email posts, or a tweet saying "Axiom will not be able to attend ATC due to unfortunate financial circumstances, we apologize to our fans." Why the posts of private information that was expected to remain so? Take took offense to this because people like me look at this and say why are you trying to discredit ATC and ATC only for which really is just as much a mistake of yours as is theirs. Sure, they didn't email you directly, that is a big mistake. But to not hear anything for months, and not even confirming travel arrangements to begin with is completely your mistake in not following up, when surely (being a team in the financial situation you were in, according to TB's soundcloud) would have been in the back of your mind throughout those months? I wish you luck with less on your plate Genna. You deserve a schedule you can handle, and maybe just handling Cynical Brit's channel and going back to the way things were before Axiom will only benefit you. Shoutout's to TakeTV for epic SC2 content as well. I hope this doesn't bog down the greatness that is the SC II community for days and weeks to come. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 16 2013 14:04 TheButtonmen wrote: Take threatened legal actions against her. That's what prompted the fuck Take not the tournament. He hoped. He wasnt threating legal actions agaisnt her. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11086 Posts
I think they want an excuse to quit SC and maybe move back to only their business or another esport. Ah what a waste. Still like/will consume both party's content. | ||
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XiaoXiaoo
Switzerland20 Posts
I can see why Dennis may get angry over publicly released private conversations, but the sympathy of the community will definitely goto Genna + TB, and we all know the community follows their hearts in most issues so... things don't look too great either way. In the end, the thing I'm most worried about is Genna's mental health being able to recover from this team management and stuff... gl Genna. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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RandomPlayer
Russian Federation400 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
GLHF in the future, and GL to all parties involved. | ||
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namste
Finland2292 Posts
On August 16 2013 17:11 Sabu113 wrote: It's confusing. I didn't realize that TB and axiom suffered so much negative publicity before they released the chat logs. I vaguely get the sense that they might be eyeing an exit between this and the "no events" tweet. Actually in the sound cloud, he is really hinting at an exit. I think they want an excuse to quit SC and maybe move back to only their business or another esport. Would be a shame for all their players tbh. They're a good bunch. | ||
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Hellbat
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
One does not quit for minor obstacles and mistakes. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
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Gowerly
United Kingdom916 Posts
Take and Acer couldn't find the funds to help them out. Therefore, Axiom couldn't attend. The shit that was on Twitter about them not attending was ridiculous "Herrr they're stupid why compete in a tournament you know you wouldn't be able to attend", like you know that this far in advance. Genna made a mistake posting the content of the e-mails/conversations. However, as she's not German she's not really covered by the "all private conversations have some privacy thing attached to them" that German law has, so nothing can be done. Take is angry, said angry things, now everyone is angry and we're in an infinite loop of hate. It's sad. Everyone made mistakes here. Nothing generally illegal, but widely regarded as immoral. I'm pretty confident that if people knew everything that went on in the games industry and the e-sports industry, a lot of people would laugh and leave. | ||
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pmp10
3396 Posts
And we used to deride Jessica for recording phone-calls. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12042 Posts
On August 16 2013 13:01 Clicker wrote:  (( I've been out of the SC2 scene mix the past two weeks...was this foreseen at all? ;cThis is all happening because SKT or KT didn't win proleague T_T | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
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robih
Austria1086 Posts
On August 16 2013 17:11 XiaoXiaoo wrote: but the sympathy of the community will definitely goto Genna + TB, and we all know the community follows their hearts in most issues so i dont see why. just because you feel so? | ||
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