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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 15 2013 13:24 GMT
#301
oh man, Naniwa is in trouble
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 15 2013 13:25 GMT
#302
On August 15 2013 22:13 jalen wrote:
If Maru still be that cheese against jim, he will be in trouble. Jim is not rain that always try to play safe.


Yeah Jim's chances are looking very very good here. MMA is still terrible against Protoss, Scarlett is most definitely doable and Maru... well, we'll have to see what kind of play style he goes for.

It looks like a hard group to call but I would be surprised if Maru and Jim don't both make it out.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
August 15 2013 13:29 GMT
#303
I find it interesting how many people think there will be anything but Koreans in the RO8. Yes, the foreigners have shown some good games, and even managed to win against Koreans now and then. But they're generally the best of the west, playing against Koreans who are mostly past their prime (or have yet to reach a "prime" state), who went to play in AM/EU because they knew they couldn't make it back home. And those Koreans still managed to become AM/EU champs. Now, add to them the death squad of WCS Korea players, and you've got yourselves a tall order for the westerners. Though, to be honest, I could imagine MMA failing to make it through his group on a bad day. But that's about the only non-KR option.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 13:40:11
August 15 2013 13:38 GMT
#304
On August 15 2013 22:22 c0ldfusion wrote:
JD has been doing poorer against terrans than protoss, and all protoss just means he only needs to prep for one match-up. That ain't too bad.

I think he looked more beatable than usual though JvP definitely improved at WCS NA. I think that he can still pull it off since he only had to practice for 1 match-up but it ain't gonna be easy considering that MC, Welmu and Rain all play a different styles. I actually flavoured Jaedong against Rain more just because Rain is more macro-based as compared to the timing-based and unpredictable style of MC.

Welmu looked out of place tbh unless he can pull off his PvP magic. Rain can potentially be taken out as well considering his tilt in the final as well as suffering a clean loss to Parting in WCG Ro8. The recent Jaedong seemed more deadly in ZvP, his mid game muta switch's style is nasty to play against and his infestors control are probably the best in the business atm. Jaedong really need to improve on his reactions and not build spores only when the phoenix flew into his base.

Considering the fact that WCS Season Final start in a week time, I doubt we will see the balance patch for zergs anytime soon. If by chance that it actually go live, I can see Jaedong crushing his group. Jaedong fighting! I really hope the Tyrant will sweep this tournament so that people will stop calling him Jaekong.
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 13:52:50
August 15 2013 13:43 GMT
#305
Holy Cow.

Bye foreigners.

It's funny to see how people underestimate Maru. It's the reigning OSL champion! I predict in D Maru first and MMA second.
Overall favorites are Innovation, Rain, Polt and Taeja.
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
August 15 2013 16:33 GMT
#306
Naniwa and Welmu are so boned.
Sick groups.... CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!
Mocking
Profile Joined April 2013
Brazil52 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-15 16:51:17
August 15 2013 16:48 GMT
#307
My predictions:
Group A :
Very hard to say, JD have show to us that he can beat top tier protoss, but rain perhaps is too much. Welmu can beat any toss, but always loses to MC, Rain was the 2nd place at GSL.

I will take Rain and MC (But i am cheering for JD).

Group B:
I will take Polt and Bomber(cheering for Grubby).

Group C:
This one will be sick. Naniwa is one of the best foregins right now, but innovation still are unbeatable at a long macro game. Taeja is one of the best players in the world and Duck was the WCS champion.

I will take Innovation and Duck (cheering for Naniwa).

Group D
This one, i think Scarlett and Maru. I think Scarlett can beat Maru, but will be very hard for her. Also i think Jim doing well in this group. But, my god, this group can not be the group of the dead, but i think will be the best one to watch. Sorry to say that MMA fans, but i can't see he out of this group.



Scarlett Jaedong Life Revival Naniwa Dimaga MVP Hyun Snute TLO Vortix Grubby
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 15 2013 16:50 GMT
#308
Well fuck... Looks like no Jim.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Mocking
Profile Joined April 2013
Brazil52 Posts
August 15 2013 16:52 GMT
#309
What?! Poor Jim, he was so strong at the WCS.
Scarlett Jaedong Life Revival Naniwa Dimaga MVP Hyun Snute TLO Vortix Grubby
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 15 2013 18:31 GMT
#310
On August 15 2013 22:13 jalen wrote:
If Maru still be that cheese against jim, he will be in trouble. Jim is not rain that always try to play safe.


This makes no sense. Safe play is supposed to be good against cheese.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 15 2013 18:34 GMT
#311
On August 15 2013 22:29 sigm wrote:
I find it interesting how many people think there will be anything but Koreans in the RO8. Yes, the foreigners have shown some good games, and even managed to win against Koreans now and then. But they're generally the best of the west, playing against Koreans who are mostly past their prime (or have yet to reach a "prime" state), who went to play in AM/EU because they knew they couldn't make it back home. And those Koreans still managed to become AM/EU champs. Now, add to them the death squad of WCS Korea players, and you've got yourselves a tall order for the westerners. Though, to be honest, I could imagine MMA failing to make it through his group on a bad day. But that's about the only non-KR option.


Polt and Taeja are in prime state. They were code S Ro16 when the switched.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
sigm
Profile Joined December 2010
192 Posts
August 15 2013 21:04 GMT
#312
On August 16 2013 03:34 painkilla wrote:
Polt and Taeja are in prime state. They were code S Ro16 when the switched.


Exactly, they were Code S. Now they're playing in WCS AM, which is skill-wise barely Code A tier, maybe not even that. And they switched for the same reason as all the other Koreans who went with AM/EU - they knew they won't get anything done at home, or even if they could, it would take a lot more work than in those two regions. And I don't think that a player going from a harder tournament to an easier one and doing good there shows that they're in prime state.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 15 2013 21:09 GMT
#313
On August 16 2013 06:04 sigm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:34 painkilla wrote:
Polt and Taeja are in prime state. They were code S Ro16 when the switched.


Exactly, they were Code S. Now they're playing in WCS AM, which is skill-wise barely Code A tier, maybe not even that. And they switched for the same reason as all the other Koreans who went with AM/EU - they knew they won't get anything done at home, or even if they could, it would take a lot more work than in those two regions. And I don't think that a player going from a harder tournament to an easier one and doing good there shows that they're in prime state.


There are certainly many people switch for that reason, but I don't think it's true for either Taeja or Polt.
Taeja is on TL which I'm sure is a great part of the reason why he chose NA region, and Polt is actually staying in NA to study so makes even more sense.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
ratbert
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1041 Posts
August 15 2013 21:10 GMT
#314
so this might be slightly off-topic but i wonder: I'm planning on going to Gamescom on Friday or Sunday. Will I be able to watch some games in the audience or do I need something else other than the Gamescom ticket? I apologize if this is the wrong place and / or a stupid question but I kinda want to make sure I'm not disappointed when I get there :p
what if Nat Pagle and RNGesus are the same person?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 15 2013 21:15 GMT
#315
On August 16 2013 06:04 sigm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:34 painkilla wrote:
Polt and Taeja are in prime state. They were code S Ro16 when the switched.


Exactly, they were Code S. Now they're playing in WCS AM, which is skill-wise barely Code A tier, maybe not even that. And they switched for the same reason as all the other Koreans who went with AM/EU - they knew they won't get anything done at home, or even if they could, it would take a lot more work than in those two regions. And I don't think that a player going from a harder tournament to an easier one and doing good there shows that they're in prime state.


Are you seriously arguing that Polt and TaeJa aren't Code S caliber players? Is that really what is happening here?
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
August 15 2013 23:50 GMT
#316
On August 16 2013 06:04 sigm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 03:34 painkilla wrote:
Polt and Taeja are in prime state. They were code S Ro16 when the switched.


Exactly, they were Code S. Now they're playing in WCS AM, which is skill-wise barely Code A tier, maybe not even that. And they switched for the same reason as all the other Koreans who went with AM/EU - they knew they won't get anything done at home, or even if they could, it would take a lot more work than in those two regions. And I don't think that a player going from a harder tournament to an easier one and doing good there shows that they're in prime state.


Guess we'll see.
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Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
bosnia
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada223 Posts
August 16 2013 00:53 GMT
#317
siickest groups in a while !! awesome, should be amazing games!
TL member since 2002, Protoss ftw!!
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 02:25:29
August 16 2013 01:45 GMT
#318
MC, Rain
Polt, Bomber
DuckDeok, Innovation
Maru, MMA(?)

I'm not sure about the last one. Scarlett could pull through.
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
August 16 2013 02:26 GMT
#319
Cant wait for Jaedong to realize he can replace the big waves of speedlings he makes early game with drones, and then crush his protoss group.
YO
SebaZ
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy223 Posts
August 16 2013 03:01 GMT
#320
Sick groups. Can't wait for this.
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