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On August 15 2013 02:09 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 00:53 Plansix wrote:On August 15 2013 00:49 DJHelium wrote:A entry fee like SPL has is great for these kind of situations. Having one out of four qualified teams not attend really ruins the tournament. Hope Millenium gets Axiom's spot. Genna posted their reasons on reddit: After WCS NA, we felt that CranK needed to focus on recovering from his injury.
There is not much time left to prepare for DreamHack Bucharest and we want to be in top condition. (Also in the event we make it to the SC2L offline portion, we wanted to be prepared for that as well.)
We were not directly made aware that teams would only receive $1500 for the entire team to travel from Korea to Germany until flights were ridiculously overpriced. ($1500 per team is comped by ATC, not per person) Source: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1kcp39/axiomesports_we_will_be_unable_to_compete_in_the/cbnl6wv That is completely stupid by ATC if they want teams form several regions to attend. There is no reason to fly your team out if you are only reimbursed $1,500. It just doesn’t make sense for a team attempting to make a profit. The costs of flights is murder on smaller teams and it’s the reason a lot of Dota 2 events are held online. If ATC isn’t willing to put up the full value for travel, they might as well be upfront and clear about it. I don't think this is something folks would just assume. It's not stupid by ATC,and the part abouot not beind directly informed about the travel cost help only bein 1,5k is so dumb I can't believe she even wrote that. If even I knew long before the league started that they'd get $1.500 for traveling if they qualified, how could they not? ATC made it clear from the beginning and it's the team manager's job to get all the necessary information before they sign up for the leage. Also here is the TakeTV news with Take's statement. http://taketv.net/news/-12-08-13-7387
I am going to edit my first post, because more information has come up, but you are correct. It sucks, but they seem to have worked out a solution.
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On August 15 2013 01:54 Ansinjunger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 01:47 grs wrote:On August 15 2013 01:44 Plansix wrote:On August 15 2013 01:39 grs wrote:On August 15 2013 01:34 Plansix wrote:On August 15 2013 01:32 xsnac wrote:On August 15 2013 01:11 Yhamm wrote:(Also in the event we make it to the SC2L offline portion, we wanted to be prepared for that as well.) yeah, let's prepare for a future event in case you get the offline event, and skip the offline event you already have really really bad move why you read only what you want ? Well all that info wasn't up there when he posted. Still kind of a dick thing to say. It is super sad to see that Axiom is having such problems with cash flow. I really want them to do well, but getting an ROI must be really hard. Glad they are making the tough choices and being honest about it. Clearly it time to sell us all some T-shirts. Why is that a dick thing to say? One of the reasons given does state exactly that. That and their budget is so tight that the owner has been dipping into her 401K to fund the team. That really sucks and clearly they are struggling to make their budget go. If he thinks its a bad move to be responsable and not spend money the team might not have, I guess he can think that. However, I am going to say it sort of a dickish thing to say. "While our team is not in any kind of financial distress (if it were, I have my primary accounts and 401K to dip into)" --> does in my mind not mean "I have spent much of my personal 401k", but "I have 401k I am not dipping into". Whatever that number is supposed to mean but, "look how rich I am, I am so legit". Anyways, I agree that this is a bad move and Yhamm is quite right on what he says. 401K is the name of a common savings plan (a rough definition at least). She's not saying she has 401,000$.
I did not know that. Makes the post sound a less lot strange to me now that I know.
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On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2.
this topic is now about the next GSTL
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On August 15 2013 02:14 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2. this topic is now about the next GSTL
Can we make it about people that pretend to have inside knowledge of the scene and use it to criticise people that work in eSports? Because this thread is full of that.
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On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...?
They thought they were getting more money
It says they thought they were getting 1500$ per player instead of 1500$ for the whole team
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On August 15 2013 02:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:14 Yhamm wrote:On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2. this topic is now about the next GSTL Can we make it about people that pretend to have inside knowledge of the scene and use it to criticise people that work in eSports? Because this thread is full of that.
Its has some people who just took it at face value and knew there was a good reason for you folks to cancel.
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On August 15 2013 02:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:14 Yhamm wrote:On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2. this topic is now about the next GSTL Can we make it about people that pretend to have inside knowledge of the scene and use it to criticise people that work in eSports? Because this thread is full of that.
You can't expect people not to be disappointed, and most of the time, people start 'pretending to have inside knowledge', because they have to resort to speculation because the PR is poor. Same reason why the lack of SC2 at MLG Colombus blew up.
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This sucks 
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On August 15 2013 02:19 mikkmagro wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:14 Yhamm wrote:On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2. this topic is now about the next GSTL Can we make it about people that pretend to have inside knowledge of the scene and use it to criticise people that work in eSports? Because this thread is full of that. You can't expect people not to be disappointed, and most of the time, people start 'pretending to have inside knowledge', because they have to resort to speculation because the PR is poor. Same reason why the lack of SC2 at MLG Colombus blew up.
You can be disappointed all you please but there's a difference between that and flat out attacking the organisation for perceived incompetence, dishonesty or whatever.
Frankly if we'd known it was acceptable to toss out the begging bowl like MVP, who evidently needed to do it despite having way more sponsors than we do, then maybe we'd have done that, but that wouldn't have solved the fact that 1/4 of our lineup is physically unfit to compete.
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Yeah, it would be nice if announcements were accompanied by reasons. When the reasons are delayed, even by a little bit, that's when people speculate and assume the worst.
Edit: No, that isn't criticism, just wishful thinking.
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Love when TB destroys posters who are passing judgment with knowing much of anything about what they're passing judgment on. Guess I don't even need to respond to the posts now. Thanks TB.
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A bit wierd to see Millenium get the 2nd seed after finishing 5th. I would have put them against MVP, not Acer.
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On August 15 2013 02:23 Kitai wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if announcements were accompanied by reasons. When the reasons are delayed, even by a little bit, that's when people speculate and assume the worst. Edit: No, that isn't criticism, just wishful thinking.
This all happened during my lunch break. I mean, how fast do you want this stuff when it comes off Twitter and no one really looks at team's webpages.
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On August 15 2013 02:23 Kitai wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if announcements were accompanied by reasons. When the reasons are delayed, even by a little bit, that's when people speculate and assume the worst. Edit: No, that isn't criticism, just wishful thinking.
Do you think that speculation is justified?
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That sucks! I'm a big Alicia fanboy, I wanted to see him play
But honestly I can understand their reasons.
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On August 15 2013 02:22 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:19 mikkmagro wrote:On August 15 2013 02:15 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:14 Yhamm wrote:On August 15 2013 02:11 TotalBiscuit wrote:On August 15 2013 02:06 JustPassingBy wrote:On August 15 2013 01:46 FFGenerations wrote:
sounds like 1) they make a loss of several $1000 by attending , and 2) that their player/s don't particularly feel comfortable with going/feel shitty . which is what the post said. And they could not have foreseen this before because...? 5) The start date of GSTL Season 2. this topic is now about the next GSTL Can we make it about people that pretend to have inside knowledge of the scene and use it to criticise people that work in eSports? Because this thread is full of that. You can't expect people not to be disappointed, and most of the time, people start 'pretending to have inside knowledge', because they have to resort to speculation because the PR is poor. Same reason why the lack of SC2 at MLG Colombus blew up. You can be disappointed all you please but there's a difference between that and flat out attacking the organisation for perceived incompetence, dishonesty or whatever. Frankly if we'd known it was acceptable to toss out the begging bowl like MVP, who evidently needed to do it despite having way more sponsors than we do, then maybe we'd have done that, but that wouldn't have solved the fact that 1/4 of our lineup is physically unfit to compete.
Ok, you may want to have your wife screen these before posting for your own safty.
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On August 15 2013 02:27 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On August 15 2013 02:23 Kitai wrote:Yeah, it would be nice if announcements were accompanied by reasons. When the reasons are delayed, even by a little bit, that's when people speculate and assume the worst. Edit: No, that isn't criticism, just wishful thinking. Do you think that speculation is justified?
that is in the nature of people, if something isnt certain people will talk about it and speculate, thats not exclusive to esports, that most likely in all things out there.
oh btw, classy tb stays classy with his second paragraph about mvp. and people are surprised there are people who dont like u ^_^
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