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Echo Six
Profile Joined April 2013
United States30 Posts
August 08 2013 00:14 GMT
#41
Life has fallen off in the last few months. It is just hard for the esf to keep up with kespa now that they have had time to transition to Sc2.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 08 2013 00:20 GMT
#42
On August 08 2013 09:14 Echo Six wrote:
Life has fallen off in the last few months. It is just hard for the esf to keep up with kespa now that they have had time to transition to Sc2.


Life != all of eSF. I wish people would stop acting as if he is.

Kind of ticked me off that Life and Kespa got all the attention early in HotS, while upcoming talents and hardworking players who were on top in WoL and still on top in HotS (Symbol) from eSF got overshadowed.

5/8 of the ro8 in OSL was eSF, not to mention Bogus and Soulkey just got beat by Supernova(almost knocked Rain out too) and Maru. Two guys nobody would've thought would be able to put a dent in anything this season.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 00:26:36
August 08 2013 00:25 GMT
#43
On August 08 2013 09:14 Echo Six wrote:
Life has fallen off in the last few months. It is just hard for the esf to keep up with kespa now that they have had time to transition to Sc2.


Yeah, players such as Symbol, Bomber, Supernova, First and Maru sure have problems keeping up
DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
August 08 2013 00:29 GMT
#44
Only one of Maru, Creator and Life can be on form at any one moment... and Maru is taking up all the prodigy-power at the moment.
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
August 08 2013 01:23 GMT
#45
Happy soO made it!
PonceDeLEGABE
Profile Joined March 2011
United States117 Posts
August 08 2013 02:09 GMT
#46
Life will comeback i have faith.
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
August 08 2013 02:14 GMT
#47
On August 08 2013 05:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 05:55 Prog455 wrote:
On August 08 2013 05:51 Gamegene wrote:
LoL killing esf players one by one


In terms of WCS rankings eSF is doing better than Kespa with only four players in top 16.


Unless I'm missing something, eSF also has 4 players in the top 16. Mvp, Bomber, Maru, Symbol.


Where can I access this fabled WCS rankings?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 08 2013 02:15 GMT
#48
On August 08 2013 06:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 06:41 jakethesnake wrote:
Appreciate the updates Wax, but the 'hide spoilers' option on the TL homepage isn't hiding this.

Life was not looking good in those games. Even his ling/drone micro wasn't there (particularly against Byun). Sad to see him falling off and I hope he bounces back.


Losing to a Prime Terran... Asch, Life

Maru breathing new life into the team
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 08 2013 02:31 GMT
#49
On August 08 2013 11:14 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 05:56 Dodgin wrote:
On August 08 2013 05:55 Prog455 wrote:
On August 08 2013 05:51 Gamegene wrote:
LoL killing esf players one by one


In terms of WCS rankings eSF is doing better than Kespa with only four players in top 16.


Unless I'm missing something, eSF also has 4 players in the top 16. Mvp, Bomber, Maru, Symbol.


Where can I access this fabled WCS rankings?


http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/standings

We'll just get it out of the way that the rankings treat points earned in WCS_AM and WCS_EU equally to points earned in WCS_KR. Which probably matters less than people think since you all 3 regions are full of Koreans anyways. But I'm sure someone will bring this point up.
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
August 08 2013 04:35 GMT
#50
On August 08 2013 09:25 Zeroxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 09:14 Echo Six wrote:
Life has fallen off in the last few months. It is just hard for the esf to keep up with kespa now that they have had time to transition to Sc2.


Yeah, players such as Symbol, Bomber, Supernova, First and Maru sure have problems keeping up

Let's not forget dream going on a KeSPA killing spree to get through to premier league without needing up and down (RorO and Fantasy even though he's weakest at TvT) And having smoked Rain before.
iS.SunnY, writer extraordinaire. Miami CSL!
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 08 2013 05:38 GMT
#51
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 08 2013 05:54 GMT
#52
Coincidence or not, since the arrival of Kespa, I think there is more consistency in the results post-Kespa than pre-Kespa (Inno, SK, Bomber, Symbol). This season, the real surprise is Maru, taking out both Symbol and Inno. Rain has always been a top dog, just that he slumped slightly in WCS (his proleague form is stellar).

Let's not get into esF vs Kespa debate. But I think it's safe to say that the arrival of Kespa has brought out the best of all pro players, by and large.
gg no re thx
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 08 2013 06:15 GMT
#53
On August 08 2013 14:38 papaz wrote:
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.

Innovation is ridiculously consistent:

Ro4 GSL 2012 Season 5 (WoL)
Ro8 GSL 2013 Season 1 (WoL)
3rd MLG Winter Championship
Ro4 2013 Asian Indoor-Martial Arts Games Qualifier
2nd GSL WCS 2013 Season 1
1st WCS Season 1
1 of 2 Koreans qualified for IEM Shanghai (but didn't go to the main event because of Proleague finals)
Ro4 OSL WCS 2013 Season 2
Ro8 WCG Korea Qualifiers (ongoing)
3rd most wins overall in Proleague, on the team that won it

Sure he's had a few disappointing series like the 0-4 to Maru and the reverse sweep vs Soulkey, but you can't deny his insane consistency. I think the only HotS tournament he's actually done bad in is the MLG Dalls KeSPA online qualifier.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 08 2013 06:29 GMT
#54
On August 08 2013 09:14 Echo Six wrote:
Life has fallen off in the last few months. It is just hard for the esf to keep up with kespa now that they have had time to transition to Sc2.


hahaha, you people just never give up.
Annoyed me months ago, now it's just funny.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 08 2013 06:35 GMT
#55
On August 08 2013 15:15 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 14:38 papaz wrote:
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.

Innovation is ridiculously consistent:

Ro4 GSL 2012 Season 5 (WoL)
Ro8 GSL 2013 Season 1 (WoL)
3rd MLG Winter Championship
Ro4 2013 Asian Indoor-Martial Arts Games Qualifier
2nd GSL WCS 2013 Season 1
1st WCS Season 1
1 of 2 Koreans qualified for IEM Shanghai (but didn't go to the main event because of Proleague finals)
Ro4 OSL WCS 2013 Season 2
Ro8 WCG Korea Qualifiers (ongoing)
3rd most wins overall in Proleague, on the team that won it

Sure he's had a few disappointing series like the 0-4 to Maru and the reverse sweep vs Soulkey, but you can't deny his insane consistency. I think the only HotS tournament he's actually done bad in is the MLG Dalls KeSPA online qualifier.


Ok true. Innovation is conistent.
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
August 08 2013 06:40 GMT
#56
Funny to see all these fools write of Life. The kid is a prodigy. He may not be bringing in the results, but he's still one of the best. The nature of the game is volatility, everyone goes through these periods.
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
August 08 2013 06:43 GMT
#57
On August 08 2013 14:38 papaz wrote:
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.


This notion used to frustrate me as well, but it's something you come to accept. Almost all of these Korean pros are at a really similar skill level. You're statement isn't entirely untrue...

And I know it's hard to admit, but the game still involves luck as a major factor. And there are too many ways to lose. Like I said, volatile.
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 07:22:16
August 08 2013 07:16 GMT
#58
On August 08 2013 14:38 papaz wrote:
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.

I was telling this months ago, but nobody give a damn, bash me instead, they continue to hype that one player on top at the moment. There are hundreds of players who can win championship when they are extremely hot, and there are thousands of players who can win a Bo 3 against best player in the world at the moment, in Korea ofc.

Give some love for those average Korean pros, they need it, not those on top.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 07:24:07
August 08 2013 07:23 GMT
#59
On August 08 2013 15:15 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 14:38 papaz wrote:
Oh come one Life. How can he go from looking like he is going to be the next Flash to this.
*sigh*.

Is there is one thing that gets tiresome in the SC2 scene is that there is no consistency among the players. It feels like almost any pro Korean player can win Code S at any point in time.

Innovation is ridiculously consistent:

Ro4 GSL 2012 Season 5 (WoL)
Ro8 GSL 2013 Season 1 (WoL)
3rd MLG Winter Championship
Ro4 2013 Asian Indoor-Martial Arts Games Qualifier
2nd GSL WCS 2013 Season 1
1st WCS Season 1
1 of 2 Koreans qualified for IEM Shanghai (but didn't go to the main event because of Proleague finals)
Ro4 OSL WCS 2013 Season 2
Ro8 WCG Korea Qualifiers (ongoing)
3rd most wins overall in Proleague, on the team that won it

Sure he's had a few disappointing series like the 0-4 to Maru and the reverse sweep vs Soulkey, but you can't deny his insane consistency. I think the only HotS tournament he's actually done bad in is the MLG Dalls KeSPA online qualifier.


Inno's consistency is almost nearing the 1-year mark. I don't think anyone has been this consistent in the entire brief history of SC2. To me, he has already overtaken Nestea and MVP in terms of sustaining the longest streak of consistency (Nestea - much shorter, MVP - fluctuates in hitting rock bottom and top gear throughout 2011-2013).
gg no re thx
VArsovskiSC
Profile Joined July 2010
Macedonia563 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 07:30:48
August 08 2013 07:28 GMT
#60
must say I dislike the balancing state of the races ATM with Terran being totally broken and Zerg slightly..

Guess I'm happy that herO advances though..
Another world, another place, another universe, won the race.. :) ;) :P
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