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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
May 05 2014 04:50 GMT
#561
On May 05 2014 12:32 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Welmu is studying in(at?) university and is without question one of the best foreign players at the moment. Welmu thinks he plays better when he is studying than playing fulltime.

The key is practicing the right way, not practicing until you drop. If you can only get a couple hours of meaningful practice in a day, then that's all you can. Its like studying for anything. All nighters aren't helpful, studying progressively for however long you can retain for is.
User was warned for too many mimes.
hansonslee
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States2027 Posts
May 05 2014 06:26 GMT
#562
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart
Seed's # 1 fan!!! #ForVengeance
Pursuit_
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States1330 Posts
May 05 2014 06:37 GMT
#563
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.
In Somnis Veritas
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 07:37:42
May 05 2014 07:33 GMT
#564
On May 05 2014 13:50 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 12:32 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Welmu is studying in(at?) university and is without question one of the best foreign players at the moment. Welmu thinks he plays better when he is studying than playing fulltime.

The key is practicing the right way, not practicing until you drop. If you can only get a couple hours of meaningful practice in a day, then that's all you can. Its like studying for anything. All nighters aren't helpful, studying progressively for however long you can retain for is.

Spoken like a true genius. When I was in uni I studied all night every night and barely scraped a 3.3.

Gaming is taxing on the body. Not only the muscles in the fingers, forearm, and shoulder but also the postural muscles. It's not really comparable to reading a book.
2v2, 1v1, Zerg, Terran http://www.twitch.tv/trafficsc2
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
May 05 2014 08:08 GMT
#565
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

So be it. Sooner or later blizzard will finally realize how boring and broken this unit is.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
May 05 2014 08:28 GMT
#566
On May 05 2014 17:08 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

So be it. Sooner or later blizzard will finally realize how boring and broken this unit is.


Not necessarily broken, just boring as all hell.
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
May 05 2014 08:30 GMT
#567
On May 05 2014 17:08 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

So be it. Sooner or later blizzard will finally realize how boring and broken this unit is.

The question is will they care by then?
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Amazonic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden239 Posts
May 05 2014 08:30 GMT
#568
On May 05 2014 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 10:37 radscorpion9 wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:50 Faust852 wrote:
FFS, Stephano is NOT in medschool.


He isn't?? Here I was assuming he was. Well that makes more sense.

Everyone calls it "pre-med" (not just regarding Stephano). What that really means is taking mostly BS courses just to inflate your GPA so you get through the acceptance door.

Granted, I don't know what it's like in France, so I could be way off-base.


Afaik he's doing maths, not medicine at all. At least that's what I've heard, could be full of crap aswell.
"Amazing how something so simple as a fat person and gravity can be so amusing. Classic!"
Hypemeup
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden2783 Posts
May 05 2014 08:31 GMT
#569
On May 05 2014 17:08 RaiZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

So be it. Sooner or later blizzard will finally realize how boring and broken this unit is.


Just like they did with infestor/bl, im sure they will be very quick to sort this out.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 08:38:58
May 05 2014 08:38 GMT
#570
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

Sc2 already had broken basics, it is good someone abuses the hell out of it, Blizzard only has one last expansion as a chance to finally fix this game.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 05 2014 13:23 GMT
#571
On May 05 2014 17:38 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

Sc2 already had broken basics, it is good someone abuses the hell out of it, Blizzard only has one last expansion as a chance to finally fix this game.

And then we all go back to BW after they fail, right?
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
May 10 2014 22:28 GMT
#572
On May 05 2014 22:23 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 17:38 -Archangel- wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:37 Pursuit_ wrote:
On May 05 2014 15:26 hansonslee wrote:
I really hope Stephano stays retired, because his SH play really hurts my heart


Stephano will usher Zerg players everywhere into a new era of boring, passive, and completely broken gameplay.

Sc2 already had broken basics, it is good someone abuses the hell out of it, Blizzard only has one last expansion as a chance to finally fix this game.

And then we all go back to BW after they fail, right?


Hell yeah
Have a nice day ;)
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
May 10 2014 22:53 GMT
#573
On May 05 2014 04:50 Facultyadjutant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 04:36 endy wrote:
On May 05 2014 04:26 TheFlexN wrote:
If he dismiss him returning to the scene, I feel like he is taking the spot from players that actually wants to build popularity and try to achieve success, because if he wins the qualifiers and the regional finals happen at a time that he cant go there (big test) and he decideds to not show up, I will lose the slight respect I have for him as a pro gamer. Players that retire and decide to just prove that they can still play well should officialy announce return because if they do that just for the heck of it, there are players that deserve the spots they take in tournaments.


If foreigners training full-time can't do better than someone in med school they don't deserve Stephano's spot/popularity.



I agree but the phrase is wrongfully put



If foreigners training full-time can't do better than it is questionable that their training is fully effective


Look at ToD who after going over to casting has been doing incredibly, meanwhile look at other players who turned horrible results after full-time.


i support Stephano because he challenges the paradigm of training; remember that in interviews he has said ''I don't practice as often, but I think about the game all the time''

THIS is in my opinion why Stephano is great, he is close to the game at all times while other players bluntly force themselves in remaining with the game.

Different training regimes for different players

and then huk said that even thou he said that he still practiced quite a big amount on unfilterd
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-10 23:35:10
May 10 2014 23:19 GMT
#574
There was this artcle by Ver called "how to improve" where he brought up Flash saying that he played a fraction of games his peers did and mainly trained mentally by analysing the game heavily. That would testament to Faculty...'s POV.
But see there's a certain core skillset that you have to aquire first by mass-gaming practice for this to be effective, the question is: if westerners have that core skillset? Maybe Sephano is just a lucky gem?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 10 2014 23:33 GMT
#575
Timing.
emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 10 2014 23:41 GMT
#576
On May 11 2014 08:19 McRatyn wrote:
There was this artcle by Ver called "how to improve" where he brought up Flash saying that he played a fraction of games his peers did and mainly trained mentally by analysing the game heavily. That would testament to Faculty...'s POV.
But see there's a certain core skillset that you have to aquire first by mass-gaming practice for this to be effective, the question is: if westerners have that core skillset? Maybe Sephano is just a lucky gem?


Physically, we are all the same (within reason). There is no physical reason why koreans are better, its about culture and the mind. They think differently about the game, they practice differently, they practice better. Whenever you have a large group of people who are all working to be better at the same thing, and they are located near each other, you get a hotspot. Korea is SC's hotspot, you go there, you get better. You play them, you get better.

The real difference maker in SC is that to play on the Korean server, you need to be in korea or face a massive disadvantage against them from lag. Thats why you see the European scene doing so well, they got together in houses or online and worked to get better, instead of just mindlessly laddering, now the quality of Europeans is high enough that they can produce their own stars without needing help from outside, also Koreans now living and playing on EU server has obviously raised the level.

TLDR: yes westerners have the skillset, Koreans don't have some secret they aren't sharing. More good players in a small area = faster improvement for all.
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
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