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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 12:53:17
July 17 2013 20:16 GMT
#1
Drawings are random (2 second places and 2 first places into each group). Players that advanced from the same group can not meet in the Ro16.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_2_Europe/Premier
Games will be played LIVE in Cologne, Germany at the ESL studio.


+ Show Spoiler [Players that advanced from Ro32:] +

TitaN is actually protoss.
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+ Show Spoiler [Ro16 Group Graphic] +

TitaN is actually protoss.
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Group A
August 05, 2013 - 18:00 CEST

+ Show Spoiler [Aligulac Predictions] +
                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
Mvp 87.73% 59.87% 27.86% 7.72% 4.55%
HasuObs 52.80% 20.87% 31.92% 27.15% 20.05%
Grubby 34.82% 11.25% 23.57% 34.12% 31.06%
Ret 24.65% 8.00% 16.65% 31.02% 44.33%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

(Z)Ret - (T)Mvp
(P)Grubby - (P)HasuObs

Group B
August 06, 2013 - 18:00 CEST

+ Show Spoiler [Aligulac Predictions] +

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.27% 42.03% 32.24% 15.46% 10.27%
Stephano 72.17% 37.51% 34.66% 17.64% 10.19%
Welmu 33.39% 12.08% 21.31% 37.67% 28.94%
duckdeok 20.16% 8.37% 11.79% 29.23% 50.60%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

(P)duckdeok - (Z)Stephano
(T)LucifroN - (P)Welmu

Group C
August 07, 2013 - 18:00 CEST

+ Show Spoiler [Aligulac Predictions] +

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
NaNiwa 63.93% 35.28% 28.65% 19.58% 16.48%
Happy 57.67% 29.00% 28.67% 23.49% 18.83%
MMA 51.00% 24.18% 26.83% 27.10% 21.90%
Tefel 27.39% 11.54% 15.84% 29.83% 42.79%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

(Z)Tefel - (P)NaNiwa
(T)Happy - (T)MMA

Group D
August 08, 2013 - 18:00 CEST

+ Show Spoiler [Aligulac Predictions] +

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
VortiX 74.15% 44.11% 30.04% 14.89% 10.96%
MC 50.45% 24.02% 26.43% 25.72% 23.82%
TitaN 40.17% 16.79% 23.38% 29.96% 29.87%
MaNa 35.23% 15.08% 20.14% 29.42% 35.35%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

(P)MC - (P)TitaN
(P)MaNa - (Z)VortiX


+ Show Spoiler [Polls] +

Poll: Group of Death?

D (143)
 
37%

B (125)
 
33%

C (71)
 
18%

A (45)
 
12%

384 total votes

Your vote: Group of Death?

(Vote): A
(Vote): B
(Vote): C
(Vote): D


Poll: Group A: Who do you want to advance?

Mvp & Grubby (135)
 
43%

Ret & Grubby (65)
 
21%

Grubby & HasuObs (42)
 
13%

Mvp & HasuObs (34)
 
11%

Ret & Mvp (32)
 
10%

Ret & HasuObs (4)
 
1%

312 total votes

Your vote: Group A: Who do you want to advance?

(Vote): Ret & Mvp
(Vote): Ret & Grubby
(Vote): Ret & HasuObs
(Vote): Mvp & Grubby
(Vote): Mvp & HasuObs
(Vote): Grubby & HasuObs


Poll: Group A: Who do you think will advance?

Mvp & Grubby (112)
 
49%

Mvp & HasuObs (81)
 
36%

Ret & Mvp (21)
 
9%

HasuObs & Grubby (6)
 
3%

Ret & Grubby (4)
 
2%

Ret & HasuObs (4)
 
2%

228 total votes

Your vote: Group A: Who do you think will advance?

(Vote): Ret & Mvp
(Vote): Ret & Grubby
(Vote): Ret & HasuObs
(Vote): Mvp & Grubby
(Vote): Mvp & HasuObs
(Vote): HasuObs & Grubby


Poll: Group B: Who do you want to advance?

Stephano & LucifroN (153)
 
63%

Welmu & LucifroN (32)
 
13%

duckdeok & LucifroN (19)
 
8%

duckdeok & Stephano (16)
 
7%

Stephano & Welmu (15)
 
6%

duckdeok & Welmu (9)
 
4%

244 total votes

Your vote: Group B: Who do you want to advance?

(Vote): duckdeok & Stephano
(Vote): duckdeok & LucifroN
(Vote): duckdeok & Welmu
(Vote): Stephano & LucifroN
(Vote): Stephano & Welmu
(Vote): Welmu & LucifroN


Poll: Group B: Who do you think will advance?

Stephano & LucifroN (131)
 
65%

duckdeok & Stephano (32)
 
16%

duckdeok & LucifroN (20)
 
10%

LucifroN & Welmu (10)
 
5%

Stephano & Welmu (5)
 
2%

duckdeok & Welmu (3)
 
1%

201 total votes

Your vote: Group B: Who do you think will advance?

(Vote): duckdeok & Stephano
(Vote): duckdeok & LucifroN
(Vote): duckdeok & Welmu
(Vote): Stephano & LucifroN
(Vote): Stephano & Welmu
(Vote): LucifroN & Welmu


Poll: Group C: Who do you want to advance?

MMA & NaNiwa (104)
 
43%

Happy & MMA (56)
 
23%

Happy & NaNiwa (45)
 
18%

Tefel & NaNiwa (17)
 
7%

Tefel & MMA (14)
 
6%

Tefel & Happy (8)
 
3%

244 total votes

Your vote: Group C: Who do you want to advance?

(Vote): Tefel & NaNiwa
(Vote): Tefel & Happy
(Vote): Tefel & MMA
(Vote): Happy & MMA
(Vote): MMA & NaNiwa
(Vote): Happy & NaNiwa


Poll: Group C: Who do you think will advance?

MMA & NaNiwa (133)
 
67%

Happy & NaNiwa (28)
 
14%

Happy & MMA (23)
 
12%

Tefel & NaNiwa (8)
 
4%

Tefel & MMA (6)
 
3%

Tefel & Happy (2)
 
1%

200 total votes

Your vote: Group C: Who do you think will advance?

(Vote): Tefel & NaNiwa
(Vote): Tefel & Happy
(Vote): Tefel & MMA
(Vote): Happy & MMA
(Vote): MMA & NaNiwa
(Vote): Happy & NaNiwa


Poll: Group D: Who do you want to advance?

MC & MaNa (73)
 
32%

MC & VortiX (69)
 
30%

MaNa & VortiX (55)
 
24%

MC & TitaN (13)
 
6%

TitaN & VortiX (13)
 
6%

TitaN & MaNa (7)
 
3%

230 total votes

Your vote: Group D: Who do you want to advance?

(Vote): MC & TitaN
(Vote): MC & MaNa
(Vote): MC & VortiX
(Vote): TitaN & MaNa
(Vote): TitaN & VortiX
(Vote): MaNa & VortiX


Poll: Group D: Who do you think will advance?

MC & VortiX (109)
 
54%

MC & MaNa (32)
 
16%

MaNa & VortiX (25)
 
12%

MC & TitaN (17)
 
8%

TitaN & VortiX (16)
 
8%

TitaN & MaNa (3)
 
1%

202 total votes

Your vote: Group D: Who do you think will advance?

(Vote): MC & TitaN
(Vote): MC & MaNa
(Vote): MC & VortiX
(Vote): TitaN & MaNa
(Vote): TitaN & VortiX
(Vote): MaNa & VortiX


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The Bomber boy
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 17 2013 20:24 GMT
#2
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#3
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.

holy crap you are always this negative aren't you
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
July 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#4
Stephano in RO8.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 17 2013 20:28 GMT
#5
REMATCH OF THE MOST TERRIBLE PLAYER AND NANI!

And poor Ret. This is great.
The Bomber boy
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#6
+ Show Spoiler [Image of Groups] +
[image loading]
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8528 Posts
July 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#7
Those are some superbly well rounded and interesting groups
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 17 2013 20:30 GMT
#8
I'm guessing...
MVP + Ret,
Stephano + Duckdeok
NaNi + Tefel (maybe MMA)
Mana + MC?
kiss kiss fall in love
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#9
On July 18 2013 05:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.

holy crap you are always this negative aren't you

someone always has to hate ;p
Moderatorlickypiddy
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#10
Time to put Ret's 4-1 against MVP to the test.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#11
Mvp is so lucky with his groups in this season
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#12
On July 18 2013 05:31 Dodgin wrote:
Mvp is so lucky with his groups in this every season

Mvp has the group blessing
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10126 Posts
July 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#13
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#14
On July 18 2013 05:27 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.

holy crap you are always this negative aren't you

I just don't like people making mistakes when they're paid to do this. I could do a better job for free... ~_~
Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
July 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#15
Group of death poll in the op please.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#16
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#17
Poll: Group of Death?

D (143)
 
37%

B (125)
 
33%

C (71)
 
18%

A (45)
 
12%

384 total votes

Your vote: Group of Death?

(Vote): A
(Vote): B
(Vote): C
(Vote): D

Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
swordboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada299 Posts
July 17 2013 20:37 GMT
#18
At least two Koreans will be out, calling it now.
MarineKing | ThorZaIN | IMMvp | MMA | Sase | Sen | Kas
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 17 2013 20:39 GMT
#19
Overall pretty balanced groups. I'm liking them.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 17 2013 20:43 GMT
#20
So balanced, I don't see any group of death.

You should have put a "None" option, Shellshock!

In my case, opterown, I'm not always that negative. :p
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
July 17 2013 20:44 GMT
#21
A: Grubby, Ret
B: Lucifron, Stephano
C: MMA, Naniwa
D: Vortix, Mana

hell yeah! :D
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33392 Posts
July 17 2013 20:45 GMT
#22
yay, a bunch of evenly good groups!

not having group of death is boring in the short term, but it's almost always a better thing going forward, makes better semi and finals matchups possible
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 21:40:56
July 17 2013 20:47 GMT
#23
All four mouz players are in four different groups :D
Time to occupy the Top 8 spots!

edit: guess i can't read
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 17 2013 20:48 GMT
#24
On July 18 2013 05:47 Serinox wrote:
All four mouz players are in four different groups :D
Time to occupy the Top 8 spots!

Vortix and Mana are in the same group
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 20:59:29
July 17 2013 20:54 GMT
#25
Any schedule yet? Love all the groups.

Edit : schedule on Liquipedia, starting august 5.
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
July 17 2013 20:58 GMT
#26
On July 18 2013 05:54 SChlafmann wrote:
Any schedule yet? Love all the groups.

Not that I know of, but they said on air they will take a three week break because this weekend is Dreamhack, next weekend is IEM, and the weekend after is ASUS ROG.
This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
July 17 2013 20:59 GMT
#27
I think NaNiwa will take the game vs Tefel atleast even if that challenger drama happened. He won't underestimate and play like a downie twice against the same player.
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
July 17 2013 21:00 GMT
#28
Those groups are pretty damn great :D
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 17 2013 21:02 GMT
#29
Pretty sweet group for MVP.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#30
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4730 Posts
July 17 2013 21:03 GMT
#31
Tefel vs Naniwa You gotta be kidding me
Also Mana vs Vortix((((
Pathetic Greta hater.
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
July 17 2013 21:05 GMT
#32
There is no group of death here.
oh, hai
Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
July 17 2013 21:08 GMT
#33
lol naniwa vs tefel
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
July 17 2013 21:12 GMT
#34
I predict offensive handshakes galore!
Amove for Aiur
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#35
Should be fun
Moderatorlickypiddy
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 17 2013 21:17 GMT
#36
Welmu & luci will advance from group B. Duckdeok cant win welmu in pvp and i dont think stephano have so much eager to play.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
July 17 2013 21:20 GMT
#37
Mvp, Grubby
Stephano, duckdeok
MMA, Tefel
MC, VortiX
Creem
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden254 Posts
July 17 2013 21:26 GMT
#38
On July 18 2013 06:03 Elite_ wrote:
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Way to blow a tiny mistake out of proportion. Even professional entities make mistakes, just get over it.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 17 2013 21:26 GMT
#39
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


The king will show them where their place is.
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 17 2013 21:27 GMT
#40
Mvp and Grubby out of Group A.
Stephano and Welmu out of group B since Welmu could take Finale.
MMA and Nani for Group c.
MC and Vortix out for Group D.

Pretty even race distribution! GREAT GROUPS.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
July 17 2013 21:29 GMT
#41
Rooting for Jürgen and Tefel the most but damn not another game of throws pls
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
July 17 2013 21:29 GMT
#42
On July 18 2013 05:58 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:54 SChlafmann wrote:
Any schedule yet? Love all the groups.

Not that I know of, but they said on air they will take a three week break because this weekend is Dreamhack, next weekend is IEM, and the weekend after is ASUS ROG.

5th, 6th, 7th and 8th August.

I like those groups. No group of death for me. I won't be able to watch it unfortunately, Roma holidays yo. The favorites should go through, which means a sick playoff weekend.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
July 17 2013 21:31 GMT
#43
Frightened for Grubby, hope he can make it out of his group.
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dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
July 17 2013 21:37 GMT
#44
On July 18 2013 06:26 Creem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:03 Elite_ wrote:
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Way to blow a tiny mistake out of proportion. Even professional entities make mistakes, just get over it.

I think this guy was just trying to help, chill bro. If you want to whine then say his inserted Protoss icon isn't aligned with the others perfectly (slightly more to the right than it should be), or that he used the preview image instead of the high res one ^_^

Grubby got a nice draw, I think he'll make it to Ro8.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 17 2013 21:40 GMT
#45
On July 18 2013 05:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:47 Serinox wrote:
All four mouz players are in four different groups :D
Time to occupy the Top 8 spots!

Vortix and Mana are in the same group

Huh, maybe I should start to sleep more >->
SaltySam
Profile Joined January 2013
65 Posts
July 17 2013 21:48 GMT
#46
On July 18 2013 06:26 Creem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:03 Elite_ wrote:
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Way to blow a tiny mistake out of proportion. Even professional entities make mistakes, just get over it.

Actually, you are the one who blew it out of proportion. Oh irony.
Sithril
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovakia169 Posts
July 17 2013 21:50 GMT
#47
Ahahaha, Grubby and Ret in the same group once again!

It ALMOST feels rigged :D They meet in every turney.
ThePlagueJG
Profile Joined May 2013
Sweden1010 Posts
July 17 2013 21:56 GMT
#48
On July 18 2013 06:50 Sithril wrote:
Ahahaha, Grubby and Ret in the same group once again!

It ALMOST feels rigged :D They meet in every turney.


Imagine if the groups were:

Ret, Grubby, Lucifron and Vortix x_x( I know its not possible considering both grubby and ret got 2nd)

Dat would have been the most rigged group ever :O
ThorZaIN | NaNiwa | SaSe | PartinG | sOs | Jaedong | sOs restored passion!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 17 2013 22:07 GMT
#49
On July 18 2013 06:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:50 Sithril wrote:
Ahahaha, Grubby and Ret in the same group once again!

It ALMOST feels rigged :D They meet in every turney.


Imagine if the groups were:

Ret, Grubby, Lucifron and Vortix x_x( I know its not possible considering both grubby and ret got 2nd)

Dat would have been the most rigged group ever :O

Mvp, MMA, MC, duckdeok.

Checkmate.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 17 2013 22:12 GMT
#50
On July 18 2013 07:07 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:56 ThePlagueJG wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:50 Sithril wrote:
Ahahaha, Grubby and Ret in the same group once again!

It ALMOST feels rigged :D They meet in every turney.


Imagine if the groups were:

Ret, Grubby, Lucifron and Vortix x_x( I know its not possible considering both grubby and ret got 2nd)

Dat would have been the most rigged group ever :O

Mvp, MMA, MC, duckdeok.

Checkmate.

Don't you ever dare mention duckdeok ever.

This guy needs to atone for his sins.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 17 2013 22:19 GMT
#51
I'm disappointed in you guys. Three pages and still no Aligulac predictions.
Moderator
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
July 17 2013 22:21 GMT
#52
The draw was really exciting as was the result!
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 17 2013 22:22 GMT
#53
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.


such a great post and thats first you mention ?.... grow up ^^

ps: that alot polls xD
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alukarD
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico396 Posts
July 17 2013 22:29 GMT
#54
MVP you are jinxed... in a good heavenly way. And Grubby... Its doable. Past group was worst for him I think
Stephano and Lucifron. Should be fun if they get to play each other
Naniwa and... Someone else. MMA trends to play below expectations. Happy over expectations. Tefel is solid. So... yeah. I'll go with MMA. Cuz KOR TERRAN you know
Vortix and... well, we've got 3 good PvPers, so... MaNa. Cuz he is or has something most of players dont: Clutch

Hyped
Die Trying
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 17 2013 22:47 GMT
#55
mvp vs mma finals
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
July 17 2013 22:55 GMT
#56
MMA and nani in the same group D: Nooo!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
July 17 2013 22:55 GMT
#57
On July 18 2013 07:19 monk wrote:
I'm disappointed in you guys. Three pages and still no Aligulac predictions.

Up to the guy who does the OP, imo.
Wintex failed. :D
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 17 2013 23:05 GMT
#58
On July 18 2013 07:55 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 07:19 monk wrote:
I'm disappointed in you guys. Three pages and still no Aligulac predictions.

Up to the guy who does the OP, imo.
Wintex failed. :D

i was waiting for someone to create it so i could slack some more
The Bomber boy
a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
July 17 2013 23:10 GMT
#59
Group A

                 Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
--------------------------------------------------------------
Mvp 87.73% 59.87% 27.86% 7.72% 4.55%
HasuObs 52.80% 20.87% 31.92% 27.15% 20.05%
Grubby 34.82% 11.25% 23.57% 34.12% 31.06%
Ret 24.65% 8.00% 16.65% 31.02% 44.33%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group B

                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.27% 42.03% 32.24% 15.46% 10.27%
Stephano 72.17% 37.51% 34.66% 17.64% 10.19%
Welmu 33.39% 12.08% 21.31% 37.67% 28.94%
duckdeok 20.16% 8.37% 11.79% 29.23% 50.60%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group C

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
NaNiwa 63.93% 35.28% 28.65% 19.58% 16.48%
Happy 57.67% 29.00% 28.67% 23.49% 18.83%
MMA 51.00% 24.18% 26.83% 27.10% 21.90%
Tefel 27.39% 11.54% 15.84% 29.83% 42.79%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Group D

                Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
-------------------------------------------------------------
VortiX 74.15% 44.11% 30.04% 14.89% 10.96%
MC 50.45% 24.02% 26.43% 25.72% 23.82%
TitaN 40.17% 16.79% 23.38% 29.96% 29.87%
MaNa 35.23% 15.08% 20.14% 29.42% 35.35%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 23:18:16
July 17 2013 23:18 GMT
#60
On July 18 2013 05:58 juicyjames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:54 SChlafmann wrote:
Any schedule yet? Love all the groups.

Not that I know of, but they said on air they will take a three week break because this weekend is Dreamhack, next weekend is IEM, and the weekend after is ASUS ROG.


I assume the ro16 will happen from the 5th to the 8th or the 6th to the 9th of August then.

This also gives time for WCS AM to catch up since they're so behind.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
July 17 2013 23:20 GMT
#61
On July 18 2013 06:37 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:26 Creem wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:03 Elite_ wrote:
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Way to blow a tiny mistake out of proportion. Even professional entities make mistakes, just get over it.

I think this guy was just trying to help, chill bro. If you want to whine then say his inserted Protoss icon isn't aligned with the others perfectly (slightly more to the right than it should be), or that he used the preview image instead of the high res one ^_^

Grubby got a nice draw, I think he'll make it to Ro8.

I found his first post funny, his seconde "I don't get pay for this but I'd do a better job then the OP" is just... not helping at all ;-)
Sure he is right, but the mistake is minor and will be fixed in later (previews, live repots etc) threads anyways, as well as in Liquipedia etc.
so there is no need for too harsh words
EpicDemente
Profile Joined November 2012
Chile202 Posts
July 17 2013 23:26 GMT
#62
omg this groups kill my fanboy heart
"Fight your heart out for what you want"
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
July 17 2013 23:29 GMT
#63
On July 18 2013 07:19 monk wrote:
I'm disappointed in you guys. Three pages and still no Aligulac predictions.

happy now?
The Bomber boy
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
July 17 2013 23:37 GMT
#64
yay!
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TRAvian
Profile Joined December 2012
23 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-17 23:51:03
July 17 2013 23:50 GMT
#65
My predictions..

A: Mvp, Grubby
B: Lucifron, duckdeok
C: MMA, Naniwa
D: MC, Titan

+ Show Spoiler [Group A] +
Mvp>Ret
Grubby>HasuObs
Mvp>Grubby
HasuObs>Ret
Grubby>HasuObs

+ Show Spoiler [Group B] +

Stephano>duckdeok
Lucifron>Welmu
Lucifron>Stephano
duckdeok>Welmu
duckdeok>Stephano

+ Show Spoiler [Group C] +

Naniwa>Tefel (Nani gets his revenge)
MMA>Happy
MMA>Naniwa (Nani throw game to get double revenge on Tefel)
Tefel>Happy
Naniwa>Tefel

+ Show Spoiler [Group D] +

MC>Titan
Mana>Vortix
MC>Mana
Titan>Vortix
Titan>Mana
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
July 18 2013 00:14 GMT
#66
On July 18 2013 05:32 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:27 opterown wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.

holy crap you are always this negative aren't you

I just don't like people making mistakes when they're paid to do this. I could do a better job for free... ~_~


I'm sure you never make mistakes

Mvp, MC and MMA - blast from the past!
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 01:46:06
July 18 2013 01:45 GMT
#67
On July 18 2013 08:18 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:58 juicyjames wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:54 SChlafmann wrote:
Any schedule yet? Love all the groups.

Not that I know of, but they said on air they will take a three week break because this weekend is Dreamhack, next weekend is IEM, and the weekend after is ASUS ROG.


I assume the ro16 will happen from the 5th to the 8th or the 6th to the 9th of August then.

This also gives time for WCS AM to catch up since they're so behind.

http://wcseurope.eventbrite.com/

Confirmed for 5th-8th.

Edit: It looks like this is old news.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
July 18 2013 01:49 GMT
#68
On July 18 2013 09:14 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:32 Elite_ wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:27 opterown wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:24 Elite_ wrote:
Sick Terran logo next to TitaN in the image. Nice job, ESL.

holy crap you are always this negative aren't you

I just don't like people making mistakes when they're paid to do this. I could do a better job for free... ~_~


I'm sure you never make mistakes

Mvp, MC and MMA - blast from the past!


Yeah, definitely. 2011's finest.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
July 18 2013 05:09 GMT
#69
Group A looks like fun, but I miss TLO ;(
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 18 2013 05:12 GMT
#70
Mvp with the best group for him ^_^
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
July 18 2013 05:37 GMT
#71
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


Why would he need to learn ? To me he can only win by wanting to face MVP.
Only 2 things happen.

1. He loses to MVP. Let's be honest no one would be suprised with what MVP can do, nothing to lose here.
2. He beats MVP. Giving him a huge boost and makes people remember who Ret was again.
Wonderberg
Profile Joined November 2012
Netherlands112 Posts
July 18 2013 05:39 GMT
#72
Apart from mvp I could see the other koreans falling.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 18 2013 06:11 GMT
#73
On July 18 2013 14:37 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


Why would he need to learn ? To me he can only win by wanting to face MVP.
Only 2 things happen.

1. He loses to MVP. Let's be honest no one would be suprised with what MVP can do, nothing to lose here.
2. He beats MVP. Giving him a huge boost and makes people remember who Ret was again.


Or

3. Instead plays against an easier opponent and makes it further into the tournament, gaining more money and WCS points.
eipeifeetS
Profile Joined May 2013
Netherlands17 Posts
July 18 2013 06:44 GMT
#74
Sooo many protoss compared to last WCS's EU Ro16..
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 18 2013 07:05 GMT
#75
On July 18 2013 15:44 eipeifeetS wrote:
Sooo many protoss compared to last WCS's EU Ro16..

Good, maybe they'll stop complaining then. Although I doubt it.

Go LucifroN!!

Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
July 18 2013 07:29 GMT
#76
Let's be real...

Mvp is going to stomp through his group.
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Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 08:06:45
July 18 2013 08:04 GMT
#77
On July 18 2013 15:11 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 14:37 Lysanias wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


Why would he need to learn ? To me he can only win by wanting to face MVP.
Only 2 things happen.

1. He loses to MVP. Let's be honest no one would be suprised with what MVP can do, nothing to lose here.
2. He beats MVP. Giving him a huge boost and makes people remember who Ret was again.


Or

3. Instead plays against an easier opponent and makes it further into the tournament, gaining more money and WCS points.


Or he still can move on as second place and do all that ^^ + not even needing to worry about MVP until the finals (if both would make it that far)

Negative nancy over here.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 18 2013 08:56 GMT
#78
Shit, I just realized that WCS Europe happens exactly in those two weeks where I am away in business trip... ... ... -.-
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
July 18 2013 09:03 GMT
#79
On July 18 2013 08:20 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 06:37 dani` wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:26 Creem wrote:
On July 18 2013 06:03 Elite_ wrote:
Group image with a Protoss icon next to TitaN instead of Terran icon.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Way to blow a tiny mistake out of proportion. Even professional entities make mistakes, just get over it.

I think this guy was just trying to help, chill bro. If you want to whine then say his inserted Protoss icon isn't aligned with the others perfectly (slightly more to the right than it should be), or that he used the preview image instead of the high res one ^_^

Grubby got a nice draw, I think he'll make it to Ro8.

I found his first post funny, his seconde "I don't get pay for this but I'd do a better job then the OP" is just... not helping at all ;-)
Sure he is right, but the mistake is minor and will be fixed in later (previews, live repots etc) threads anyways, as well as in Liquipedia etc.
so there is no need for too harsh words

I missed he was also the guy who made the first post purely about that icon, sarcastically saying 'good job ESL', so I guess your first line was justified after all. I thought he was a random guy who just read the whining about the Terran icon and decided to provide a fixed image :-) My bad~
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
July 18 2013 09:04 GMT
#80
On July 18 2013 07:19 monk wrote:
I'm disappointed in you guys. Three pages and still no Aligulac predictions.

I like your new icon <3
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 18 2013 09:11 GMT
#81
Mvpppppppppppppppppp
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
July 18 2013 09:16 GMT
#82
Tefel.... In other news GO MVP!
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habeck
Profile Joined February 2011
1120 Posts
July 18 2013 09:30 GMT
#83
Mvp GOGOGO
MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
July 18 2013 09:43 GMT
#84
On July 18 2013 05:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:31 Dodgin wrote:
Mvp is so lucky with his groups in this every season

Mvp has the group blessing



lol... HasuObs is one of the best Europe tosses around at the moment. and btw. MVP would have no problem no matter what the group is...

MvP and Hasu will advance...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#85
Finale will 2-0 Stephano with all ins and everybody will lose their shit. Then he'll show that he knows how to macro as well cause he's pretty good at this game.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
v0rtex
Profile Joined November 2011
123 Posts
July 18 2013 10:14 GMT
#86
Group C looks sick! For Ro8, I'm guessing:
Group A: MVP, Grubby
Group B: Stephano, DuckDeok
Group C: MMA, Naniwa
Group D: MC, Vortix
JD, Snute, TLO, Soulkey, $o$, HerO, Suppy, Hendralisk, MKP, Maru
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 18 2013 11:28 GMT
#87
Mvp beast mode activate gogogo
rip prime
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
July 18 2013 11:41 GMT
#88
RO16 will all be be played in Germany right ?
So Koreans will probably not all-in as much without the latency handicap and you can expect them to play a bit better than in RO32. Still hoping for a couple to get eliminated in RO16 !
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 18 2013 12:30 GMT
#89
On July 18 2013 20:41 Beamo wrote:
RO16 will all be be played in Germany right ?
So Koreans will probably not all-in as much without the latency handicap and you can expect them to play a bit better than in RO32. Still hoping for a couple to get eliminated in RO16 !

Ye, you are right
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Bullrock
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany5 Posts
July 18 2013 12:35 GMT
#90
What? Lucifron and Vortix not playing against each other?
Ready to roll out !
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
July 18 2013 12:51 GMT
#91
If Tefel beats naniwa he needs to do the most BM ceremony possible!
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
July 18 2013 12:54 GMT
#92
MVP & Grubby
LucifroN & Stephano
MMA & Tefel
VortiX & MaNa
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MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
July 18 2013 13:37 GMT
#93
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 18 2013 13:40 GMT
#94
On July 18 2013 22:37 MuMeise wrote:
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is


Grubby's PvP is good though. I'd rate them even.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 14:15:32
July 18 2013 14:15 GMT
#95
On July 18 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 22:37 MuMeise wrote:
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is


Grubby's PvP is good though. I'd rate them even.


but honestly... in challenger league hasuobs took down Mvp.Finale 2:0... which is really not an easy task.

is pvp is top notch... Grubby has imho a better pvz as hasu, but Ret is not in his best of shapes... so I clearly go for hasu as 2nd place.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 18 2013 14:20 GMT
#96
--- Nuked ---
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 18 2013 14:23 GMT
#97
On July 18 2013 23:15 MuMeise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 18 2013 22:37 MuMeise wrote:
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is


Grubby's PvP is good though. I'd rate them even.


but honestly... in challenger league hasuobs took down Mvp.Finale 2:0... which is really not an easy task.

is pvp is top notch... Grubby has imho a better pvz as hasu, but Ret is not in his best of shapes... so I clearly go for hasu as 2nd place.

yeah but KR-EU lag etc
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 14:23 GMT
#98
On July 18 2013 23:23 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 23:15 MuMeise wrote:
On July 18 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 18 2013 22:37 MuMeise wrote:
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is


Grubby's PvP is good though. I'd rate them even.


but honestly... in challenger league hasuobs took down Mvp.Finale 2:0... which is really not an easy task.

is pvp is top notch... Grubby has imho a better pvz as hasu, but Ret is not in his best of shapes... so I clearly go for hasu as 2nd place.

yeah but KR-EU lag etc

No excuses. They chose to play in WCS EU
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Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
July 18 2013 14:42 GMT
#99
Love to see MVP and Grubby go on to the quarters!
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
July 18 2013 14:45 GMT
#100
These groups are looking great no real group of death all very solid players filling out the groups!
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 14:48:31
July 18 2013 14:48 GMT
#101
On July 18 2013 21:51 Irre wrote:
If Tefel beats naniwa he needs to do the most BM ceremony possible!


In this touchy community, not handshaking is like super BM. People would have legit heart attacks if he flipped him off or something.

Luckily, NaNi is gonna roll his group
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
ooDi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada170 Posts
July 18 2013 15:11 GMT
#102
nice nice!!
"Believe you can and you're halfway there." @UR_ooDi www.twitch.tv/ooDi_sc
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
July 18 2013 15:15 GMT
#103
VortiX really won me over with his interview the other day. What a nice, humble kid. But it sucks, because I love MC and MaNa too.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 18 2013 15:19 GMT
#104
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


ret has a winning record vs mvp
can i get my estro logo back pls
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 18 2013 15:20 GMT
#105
On July 19 2013 00:19 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 05:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 18 2013 05:32 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't ret want to play Mvp ?


do these guys never learn?


ret has a winning record vs mvp

Yeah he's 4-1. Mvp is easy
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 18 2013 15:24 GMT
#106
MVP MVP MVP!
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
MuMeise
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany81 Posts
July 18 2013 15:24 GMT
#107
On July 18 2013 23:20 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 23:15 MuMeise wrote:
On July 18 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On July 18 2013 22:37 MuMeise wrote:
why do all guys vote for grubby? his pvp is by far not as good as hasuobs is


Grubby's PvP is good though. I'd rate them even.


but honestly... in challenger league hasuobs took down Mvp.Finale 2:0... which is really not an easy task.

is pvp is top notch... Grubby has imho a better pvz as hasu, but Ret is not in his best of shapes... so I clearly go for hasu as 2nd place.

German + Mouz flare


actually I am american... I just live in germany and work here...
but yes I have contact with hasu via FB and I love is playstyle. He is actually a toss that can macro and doesn't cheese too often... he has just a very, very solid playstyle.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
July 18 2013 17:27 GMT
#108
My predictions for each group:


Group A

+ Show Spoiler +
Ret < Mvp
Grubby < HasuObs
Mvp > HasuObs
Ret > Grubby
Ret < HasuObs

Mvp and HasuObs advance!




Group B

+ Show Spoiler +
duckdeok < Stephano
Lucifron > Welmu
Lucifron > Stephano
duckdeok < Welmu
Stephano > Welmu

Lucifron and Stephano advance!




Group C

+ Show Spoiler +
Tefel < NaNiwa
Happy < MMA
NaNiwa < MMA
Happy > Tefel
NaNiwa > Happy

MMA and NaNiwa advance!




Group D

+ Show Spoiler +
MC < TitaN (feeling it^^)
MaNa < VortiX
TitaN < VortiX
MC > MaNa
MC > TitaN (not feeling it :/ )

VortiX and MC advance!


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France15 Posts
July 18 2013 21:36 GMT
#109
Don't care about manners, last results and revenges, just sick games coming ... I've already replaced football + beer with Mojito + WCS Europe this summer. Love it !
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