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On July 11 2013 05:19 digmouse wrote: I actually stopped taking the PC Bang data seriously after like 2011, South Korea has a stable and developed Internet environment, arguably one of the best in the world, the reason people now play in PC Bang is that they want to play with friends, that's one of the reasons LoL places #1, but with more and more players play at home, plus SC2 isn't really a play-with-your-friends game, it's low presence in PC Bangs is not a surprise. I remember there was a thread talking about a more general video game data in Korea, SC2 is steadily placed in the top 10, the streamer data from Afreeca supports this.
Very true. A decade ago it was a pretty valid way to check which game was the most popular. Now it doesn't really matter where you play SC2, so why bother going there when you can have exactly the same experience at home, besides the few times you want to 4v4 with a few friends or something.
I like the fact SC2 is 4th there, it kinda reflects the twitch numbers honestly. LoL in the lead, SC2 not that far behind. But really, this shouldn't be that surprising. Dota-style games are really trending right now and they're WAY easier to pick up and play than SC2. So what if it's not going to be the biggest game in e-sports, if we keep having what we have right now, we should be fine (:
When the game starts to pick up a bit and we really get a lot of iconic people (like Mvp, but he's pretty much alone right now), when the level of play gets even higher, when there are going to be people who try a lot of crazy strategies all the time.. there's hope things will improve even more!
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Jin Air Green Wings
I like it
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
This means that Jaedong goes back to Green Wings per contract rules now?
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On July 10 2013 12:25 dewwatson wrote: Pretty cool!
The daughter is quite beautiful as well. Cool cool cool.
The next January? We need Sayle's comment on this!
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On July 11 2013 05:19 digmouse wrote: I actually stopped taking the PC Bang data seriously after like 2011, South Korea has a stable and developed Internet environment, arguably one of the best in the world, the reason people now play in PC Bang is that they want to play with friends, that's one of the reasons LoL places #1, but with more and more players play at home, plus SC2 isn't really a play-with-your-friends game, it's low presence in PC Bangs is not a surprise. I remember there was a thread talking about a more general video game data in Korea, SC2 is steadily placed in the top 10, the streamer data from Afreeca supports this. I would like to see this thread, because the online game rankings from Inven (2nd week of July) and Gamenote (July 1st - July 7th) don't agree with you. Both place SC2 at number 17, close to its PC Bang ranking.
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With this kind of sponsors, here's hoping we will get them to travel abroad more often.
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Finally. It's been a long time.
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I hope JD doesn't have to go back now, EG-TL really needs him
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Jaedong seems to be pretty happy with EG-TL, I think he will stay with EG, unless EG-TL decides to opt out proleague.
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Yeah, I hope JD goes back if EG-TL won't play in Proleague again. What is PL without LEE FUCKING JAEDONG?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
Yada yada, LoL best game, yada yada dirty money
Am I doing this right?
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On July 11 2013 04:11 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 02:28 BisuDagger wrote:On July 11 2013 02:26 Incognoto wrote:On July 11 2013 00:03 jpak wrote:On July 10 2013 22:14 Bowzar wrote:On July 10 2013 21:45 Lunareste wrote:On July 10 2013 21:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:On July 10 2013 21:26 UmberBane wrote:On July 10 2013 12:36 Cattlecruiser wrote: It feels more like a LoL sponsorship (2 teams) than a Sc2 sponsorship honestly. It is without a doubt that the addition of LoL to SPL/KeSPA was the catalyst to this sponsorship.
Not that I'm not super psyched about T8 getting a sponsorship, but it may not be the savior of sc2 that people think it is. Well, even if that's the case, isn't it awesome that LoL is helping out SC2 aswell now? That shows us that the full incorporation of LoL into KeSPA will bring good opportunities for SC2, too. Yes, I never said this isn't a positive step for sc2 division of T8. However, it goes to show how big LoL has gotten compared to Sc2. My fear is that eventually Sc2 will be demoted to Special Forces status or be abandoned altogether by KeSPA. It is hard to say that Sc2 is growing. Take a harder look. 3rd most played game in PC Bangs. More and more fans showing up to every event, every week. More and more events being broadcasted on TV. Or, you know, keep your eyes closed if you want. Does anyone actually have numbers for SC2? I keep hearing SC2 is dead in Korea or that its getting bigger but no one provides the numbers to back it up. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JPkWhpk.jpg) That's the PC Bang statistics for the month of June from Gametrics.. BW at #6, SC2 at #19 Same story from Gamenote. What are 6 and 8? LoL and Dota? Read the previous page in this thread. My bad, thanks. Good job pulling "3rd most played game in PC Bangs" out your ass. 
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Sick! Go Green Wings! Now they just need Jaedong back and they're set.
(Why did you retire TRUE?!??!!!?½½)
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On July 11 2013 06:43 Zealously wrote: Yada yada, LoL best game, yada yada dirty money
Am I doing this right?
It's only dirty if AZUBU
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Good news! I'm not sure I like the name 'Green Wings' much though 
So they also decided to get two whole LoL squads? Kinda makes it sound like that's what they are most interested in. Not that I know anything at all about how LoL teams work.. Oh wells, money for e-sports is money well spent Hope that this means TY and Argo will now have the backing they need to grow into the beasts they should be.
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Bisutopia19204 Posts
On July 11 2013 02:23 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 02:10 KhaliWear wrote: That is amazing to see.
Imagine how broken a Blizzard sponsored team would be XD You could say it would be 'imbalanced' I really thought this joke was quality.
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Great news. BTW, is this why they didn´t announced coca?
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On July 11 2013 04:04 jinorazi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 03:53 Bowzar wrote:On July 11 2013 00:03 jpak wrote:On July 10 2013 22:14 Bowzar wrote:On July 10 2013 21:45 Lunareste wrote:On July 10 2013 21:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:On July 10 2013 21:26 UmberBane wrote:On July 10 2013 12:36 Cattlecruiser wrote: It feels more like a LoL sponsorship (2 teams) than a Sc2 sponsorship honestly. It is without a doubt that the addition of LoL to SPL/KeSPA was the catalyst to this sponsorship.
Not that I'm not super psyched about T8 getting a sponsorship, but it may not be the savior of sc2 that people think it is. Well, even if that's the case, isn't it awesome that LoL is helping out SC2 aswell now? That shows us that the full incorporation of LoL into KeSPA will bring good opportunities for SC2, too. Yes, I never said this isn't a positive step for sc2 division of T8. However, it goes to show how big LoL has gotten compared to Sc2. My fear is that eventually Sc2 will be demoted to Special Forces status or be abandoned altogether by KeSPA. It is hard to say that Sc2 is growing. Take a harder look. 3rd most played game in PC Bangs. More and more fans showing up to every event, every week. More and more events being broadcasted on TV. Or, you know, keep your eyes closed if you want. Does anyone actually have numbers for SC2? I keep hearing SC2 is dead in Korea or that its getting bigger but no one provides the numbers to back it up. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JPkWhpk.jpg) That's the PC Bang statistics for the month of June from Gametrics.. BW at #6, SC2 at #19 Same story from Gamenote. What about stream numbers? http://gametv.afreeca.com/left side of screen ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2U4svvW.jpg) stream ranking 1. lol 2. mine craft 3. sudden attack 4. sc2 5. lineage 6. bw 7. everyone's marble 8. kart rider 9. wc3 10. dungeon and fighter 11. aion 12. d3 13. wow 14. special forces 15. blade and soul 16. world of tank 17. archeage 18. kritika 19. dungeon striker 20. YHKH 2
Sif Tera isn't up there. Such a good game.
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