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On July 07 2013 08:56 Nuclease wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2013 08:30 intense555 wrote:
Feature avilo! Also feature ClarityBails, he was challenger league last season. Neeb too. Please not avilo... Not to player bash, but that player has had more problems on TL.net, SotG, etc. etc. than almost anyone else. He's a master at pissing people off and getting into ragefests.
Man, doesn't the hating on avilo and ProTech get old? OK, they BM a lot. So does PucK, HuK, and IdrA. Both of these players allow for a more diverse player base here on TL, which I thought a PC-obsessed TL.net would love. They have decent viewership and make people look at the game in a different way. P.S. "Not to X" makes you sound incredibly fake.
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For those of you who claim that avilo is so "BM" I will have to say that you are basing your opinions on either hearsay or the distant past. Frankly, I agree with Komentaja - "It's getting old." Avilo is far from BM in comparison to some of the streamers I've watched.
Granted, it's TLs decision to feature or not; however, that decision (from what I've observed) is extremely biased. One example was referring avilo's viewers to the "Featured Streamers" thread when they asked "How can we help to get him featured?" The modbot had a link (along with many other links to TL, Twitter, FB, etc.) to the site and when viewers posted their wishes, (some first-timers who had never considered registering with TL before) a mod told them to stop and told avilo to stop linking that site on his stream. And so TLs wishes were respected, despite the fact that seemed rather unfair. Avilo's viewers are now referred to his stream thread and when they ask why they can't post in the "Featured Streamer" thread, they are told that TL will not allow them to. Slightly, biased?
Anyway, I've learned from experience, it's not what you know, but who you know.
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On September 03 2013 02:10 Arkansassy wrote:
For those of you who claim that avilo is so "BM" I will have to say that you are basing your opinions on either hearsay or the distant past. Frankly, I agree with Komentaja - "It's getting old." Avilo is far from BM in comparison to some of the streamers I've watched.
Granted, it's TLs decision to feature or not; however, that decision (from what I've observed) is extremely biased. One example was referring avilo's viewers to the "Featured Streamers" thread when they asked "How can we help to get him featured?" The modbot had a link (along with many other links to TL, Twitter, FB, etc.) to the site and when viewers posted their wishes, (some first-timers who had never considered registering with TL before) a mod told them to stop and told avilo to stop linking that site on his stream. And so TLs wishes were respected, despite the fact that seemed rather unfair. Avilo's viewers are now referred to his stream thread and when they ask why they can't post in the "Featured Streamer" thread, they are told that TL will not allow them to. Slightly, biased?
Anyway, I've learned from experience, it's not what you know, but who you know.
How about he just gets into WCS so then it's forced to be featured.
Oh... right.
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Double post inc. As much as I like to troll avilo and co... he does deserve to be featured. He's on fucking forever. Plays a niche style. Has a load of zealous viewers.
Get rid of freakin' fitzyhere who has like 1 viewer....why the hell is he featured.
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On September 09 2013 03:07 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Double post inc. As much as I like to troll avilo and co... he does deserve to be featured. He's on fucking forever. Plays a niche style. Has a load of zealous viewers.
Get rid of freakin' fitzyhere who has like 1 viewer....why the hell is he featured.
The fact that Dragon, an admitted cheater and consistent troll, remains featured is the biggest reason why I can't argue against Avilo being featured. That kid was featured when most of what he did on streams was just troll bronze league. Anywho~ the case against Avilo being featured doesn't seem very strong outside of "we just don't like the guy so..." Then again, the deciders at TL not liking you is usually terminal for your success in e-sports. Doesn't get much stronger than that.
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hello,
I would like to put a request for SouLSSanaEE to be featured, a really good zerg player on SouL who interacts a lot with the chat  . The policy states that a way to qualify to a feature is to be in any region's WCS system.
SSanaEE got into challenger league thanks to the second AM qualifier round some days ago. As such is it possible to get him featured.
Thanks
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Cant believe avilo is not yet featured, one of the most entertaining streams and always more viewers than a lot of featured streams have.
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On July 07 2013 09:57 Plexa wrote:We require a fairly high average viewer count before considering adding streams that do not meet WCS requirements (or are an appropriate fit for other). While you may have gotten a 500 viewer peak, your average sits at 173. For instance, Ms.Spyte is sitting around 1k average unfeatured right now, she is at the top of the list in terms of consideration for being added. There are also a few other unfeatured streams who maintain better averages than you, who also are higher on the priority list that you. If you are looking to make a case for being featured then aim for the top 50 streams. If you get on that list (not just the viewers*hours rating) let us know and we may reconsider our position.
Hello...another month has passed...i'm requesting to be featured again! In the last month I hit around a 2,200 viewer peak (incredibly high for an unfeatured stream) as well as made the top 50 streamer list here (both lists):
http://i.imgur.com/2QxNNsP.png
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430796
As well as moved very high up the second top 50 list for hours streamed per month, which shows I am putting in a lot of hard work and good hours into streaming and am in this long term.
I now have a subscriber button on my stream from twitch.tv as well, as they've recognized my rapidly growing stream and high viewer counts. My viewer counts often times are matching and exceeding other currently featured streamers as well.
I would like to be featured.
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It's almost like Avilo is completely unaware that the PM feature exists. Or email. Or any other mode of private communication.
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you guys should really feature avilo. he has tons of viewers and is pretty awesome.
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On October 02 2013 01:40 Plansix wrote:
It's almost like Avilo is completely unaware that the PM feature exists. Or email. Or any other mode of private communication.
I've already gone through that route, and the last time I get no response...sorta silly to insinuate i have not already done that previously plansix -_-
edit: Good idea though (I will PM plexa tho, another person I PM'd before never gives me a response or any information).
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please feature avilo, the great terran grand master
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If grandmaster is all it takes, put Hendralisk on that list. He streams once a year or so. WCG canada representative twice, high GM on NA and EU, beats pros and KR pros alike.
Not to mention I just love the little fucker.
Jokes aside, get him to stream more, then feature him.
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On October 02 2013 01:40 Plansix wrote:
It's almost like Avilo is completely unaware that the PM feature exists. Or email. Or any other mode of private communication.
Seems to me it's a discussion worth having in public.
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On October 02 2013 05:10 dvorakftw wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 01:40 Plansix wrote:
It's almost like Avilo is completely unaware that the PM feature exists. Or email. Or any other mode of private communication. Seems to me it's a discussion worth having in public.
Relationships between a streamer and the people running a website are best done in private. Like all business relationships. Unless your plan is to rile up you fan base and fuel alittle drama. Then public is the better approach for that. Might not improve your relationship with the website however.
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On October 02 2013 05:29 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 05:10 dvorakftw wrote:On October 02 2013 01:40 Plansix wrote:
It's almost like Avilo is completely unaware that the PM feature exists. Or email. Or any other mode of private communication. Seems to me it's a discussion worth having in public. Relationships between a streamer and the people running a website are best done in private. Like all business relationships. Unless your plan is to rile up you fan base and fuel alittle drama. Then public is the better approach for that. Might not improve your relationship with the website however.
In private? So noted. You might want to pass that info on to these other streamers who in the last month have posted requests in public to be featured in the previous Feature Streamer thread:
uThermal http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19877695
frayPetraeus http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19874992
ABPoker http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19737944
Wannabecool http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19694338
SC2CTL http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19654832
But I understand how it can get to a point where featuring avilo might come to be not just a victory for him but a "defeat" for TL so don't expect drama from his fans. It's impossible, however, to watch his stream and see some of the best SC2 games being played *anywhere* and not get riled up.
Just one last point before I go:
OP wrote:
Have an extraordinary amount of viewers on your own merits. This doesn't happen often but occasionally people will grow their stream to have several hundred viewers at all times and this is worth consideration.
avilo stats in June http://i.imgur.com/FR23W0K.png
avilo stats in Sept http://i.imgur.com/2QxNNsP.png
(For the curious, the max spike was avilo defeating EGXenocider in that month's ZOTAC Cup tournament. I believe the 1.5k spike was avilo defeating FXOLucky in a ZOTAC weekend tourney.)
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uThermal & Pet qualified for challenger- which entitles them to be featured. 1 of those only wanted to be "listed"(not featured) and 1 is a team league. (idk about wbc)
i've never watched avilo so idk if he deserves it or not (stats seem to say yes?) but you might wanna check your examples.
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well i guess its clear that it would be a "defeat" for TL to feature avilo. pretty sad really they are so biased. idra and huk are waaay more bm than he is...
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On October 05 2013 02:07 Xor. wrote:
well i guess its clear that it would be a "defeat" for TL to feature avilo. pretty sad really they are so biased. idra and huk are waaay more bm than he is...
To be fair, IdrA and Huk didn't reach their level of success by being bm – they did it by being really good at Starcraft. Obviously if avilo were to win a tournament or become competitive in WCS this would be a non-issue.
Do people have any particular reason to believe TL has a vendetta against avilo and is determined to stop him from being featured? For all we know they're still assessing possible new featured streamers. Did Ms.Spyte ever get featured? She's on my favorites so she shows up for me anyway
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