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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:23:06
September 01 2013 20:05 GMT
#221
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.

edit: It's Sep 1st. looks like they haven't updated their feature streamer list yet.
Sup
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
September 01 2013 20:08 GMT
#222
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 01 2013 20:09 GMT
#223
this is the wrong thread to go about this anyway
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:16:07
September 01 2013 20:14 GMT
#224
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


The changes have only partially taken effect, in the sense that there's still a lot of people that should be featured but aren't. You're not alone. There's casters yet to be featured (OGamingTV and EmpireZerg - I'm looking at the sidebar right now and both have over 1k viewers), as well as people who play other games but have been heavily involved in the community in the past (Trump's been getting massive amounts of viewers since Hearthstone beta, he'd probably be the highest viewed stream most of the time, Jaedong/Grubby/etc notwithstanding; and then there's Testie who for some reason gets no love even though he's usually over 1k as well...)

But good luck getting anyone to do or say anything, it seems TL continue to be very ambiguous and scarce with their messages on this topic lol.

On September 02 2013 05:09 Denzil wrote:
this is the wrong thread to go about this anyway


Well it's not like actions are being taken or answers being given in this thread either. ;p
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:20:39
September 01 2013 20:19 GMT
#225
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.
Sup
ChristianS
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3304 Posts
September 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#226
My impression is that they haven't implemented a lot of the changes talked about in this post yet. I don't see any harm in PMing, posting here, etc. to try and get featured. You want to make streaming your job, so it makes sense to be persistent and follow-up the way you would trying for any other job. For my taste, it would seem preferable to take the line of "I think I'm really qualified and I'd like to be considered for featured streamer," rather than the more aggressive "I'm clearly qualified, and I can't understand why TL hasn't featured me yet."

But if Team Liquid considers your case, and for whatever reason tells you they're not going to feature you, at that point you'll need to back off a bit, even though you haven't achieved your goal.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." -Robert J. Hanlon
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:30:59
September 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#227
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Well judging from that top 50 streaming thread you get 295 concurrent viewers as your average (note average, you may have peaked at 800/1300, but your average is still 295). Unless I am mistaken they want an average of about 800 concurrent viewers to get featured without tournament results. With tournament results you will get featured easier. Maybe they want 400 average, no idea either way I know they want higher then 295.
When I think of something else, something will go here
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
September 01 2013 20:34 GMT
#228
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.
Anime is cuter than you. Legacy of the Void GM Protoss Gameplay: twitch.tv/kyo7763 youtube.com/user/KyoStarcraft/
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:38:41
September 01 2013 20:37 GMT
#229
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Don't come in here and try to spread out your avilo hate propoganda please. This thread is about featuring streamers and their stream policy.
Sup
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
September 01 2013 20:42 GMT
#230
Avilo still isn't featured yet? Come on...!
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
September 01 2013 20:45 GMT
#231
On September 02 2013 05:37 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Don't come in here and try to spread out your avilo hate propoganda please. This thread is about featuring streamers and their stream policy.



When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


don't start it yourself
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 01 2013 20:48 GMT
#232
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Sad that hypocritical people like you exist and oblivious to their own actions
This type of thing gets you punched in the face.

The featured streamer policy has nothing to do with manners on ladder, I'd say that avilo's BM only makes his stream more entertaining and engaging. They set a policy, they're not doing what they said they would do, more likely they just haven't budgeted the time to make the changes to the featured streamer list.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 20:56:12
September 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#233
On September 02 2013 05:45 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:37 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Don't come in here and try to spread out your avilo hate propoganda please. This thread is about featuring streamers and their stream policy.



Show nested quote +
When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


don't start it yourself


I think it would be nice if someone on the staff came out and said something, anything at all, for a change.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 01 2013 20:56 GMT
#234
On September 02 2013 05:48 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Sad that hypocritical people like you exist and oblivious to their own actions
This type of thing gets you punched in the face.

The featured streamer policy has nothing to do with manners on ladder, I'd say that avilo's BM only makes his stream more entertaining and engaging. They set a policy, they're not doing what they said they would do, more likely they just haven't budgeted the time to make the changes to the featured streamer list.

I'm am pretty sure if TL does not want feature someone, they can opt not to do so. They are guidelines, not laws set in stone. If other things factor in, then TL has the ability not not feature someone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Grouch
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada152 Posts
September 02 2013 02:34 GMT
#235
On September 02 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
I'm am pretty sure if TL does not want feature someone, they can opt not to do so. They are guidelines, not laws set in stone. If other things factor in, then TL has the ability not not feature someone.

So you are saying that if a person meets the criteria and isn't liked by the administrators they wont be given the same rights/privileges as others (more favoured to administrators). I thought this site was about the community, and the community does not have uniform preferences pertaining to streamers.
Sound #1
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
September 02 2013 02:43 GMT
#236
I'm not a fan, but clearly avilo could average 1k+ viewers and never be featured because the powers that be don't like him. The clear path is for him to change his ID and make a new stream, call it Olivia or something. I'm only half kidding.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 02 2013 02:46 GMT
#237
On September 02 2013 11:34 Grouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
I'm am pretty sure if TL does not want feature someone, they can opt not to do so. They are guidelines, not laws set in stone. If other things factor in, then TL has the ability not not feature someone.

So you are saying that if a person meets the criteria and isn't liked by the administrators they wont be given the same rights/privileges as others (more favoured to administrators). I thought this site was about the community, and the community does not have uniform preferences pertaining to streamers.

I am saying that streamer the disgression of the teamliquid staff and the guidelines a short hand for the requirements. But the final decision is with the TL staff and not a check box form.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Grouch
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada152 Posts
September 02 2013 03:00 GMT
#238
On September 02 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
I am saying that streamer the disgression of the teamliquid staff and the guidelines a short hand for the requirements. But the final decision is with the TL staff and not a check box form.


But should personal dislike be a reason to deny a popular streamer with a moderately sized fan base from being featured? Or do you disregard person vendettas and look at the situation as a neutral party? (Ideal situation)
Sound #1
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 02 2013 03:06 GMT
#239
On September 02 2013 12:00 Grouch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:56 Plansix wrote:
I am saying that streamer the disgression of the teamliquid staff and the guidelines a short hand for the requirements. But the final decision is with the TL staff and not a check box form.


But should personal dislike be a reason to deny a popular streamer with a moderately sized fan base from being featured? Or do you disregard person vendettas and look at the situation as a neutral party? (Ideal situation)

Business is business. If you want to be featured on a site, it is in your best interest to be on good terms with their staff. I don't know if the TL staff has a poor relationship any specific streamer, but that relationship can be a factor. It's their site and they can feature who they want. I trust them to do it fairly.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 02 2013 03:06 GMT
#240
On September 02 2013 05:37 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 05:34 -Kyo- wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:19 avilo wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:08 ZeromuS wrote:
On September 02 2013 05:05 avilo wrote:
Posting requesting my stream to be featured. Something is very wrong here that I am not featured yet, I'm hitting 400 viewers every stream, and have had peaks at numbers like 850 and 1,300 viewers.

Also, oftentimes have more viewers than some of the featured streamers.

When are these stream policy changes going to take effect? Or do they only not take effect for me? This is getting really old and frustrating i am putting my heart and soul into this and still am not featured on TL despite having the fanbase, viewer counts, and a goddamn good stream.


I think the aggressive tone might not be well taken, you should have probably PMed someone a little more politely. But kudos on not spreading as much balance hate all over the place lately! :D


Of course...well then, I can only hope that they haven't updated their featured streamer list this month yet...because i've previously gone through all the PM channels I can in terms of contacting them and nothing has changed so far. It is only the start of the month...so let's see if I am on the featured list then :D

Until I see something though or am told I'm on the featured list...that's why I put my request there again because everyone knows that has seen my numbers or my stream that i deserve to be on it now.


Though numbers do not lie, people who feel entitled and BM the shit out of everyone on ladder will, of course, have a harder time getting featured. Apparently over years of posting and playing you still have not learned that simple fact. TL values this sort of ethos higher than any other gaming community as far as I know. If you want to be a part of their featured list you better make sure your contributions to it are reasonable for the amount of acclaim they'll be giving you.


Don't come in here and try to spread out your avilo hate propoganda please. This thread is about featuring streamers and their stream policy.


avilo hate propaganda.. what you bmed me the only time i did a playhem daily. i don't dislike you or whatever but i understand they don't like this kind of behavior on stream
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