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[SPL] Flash(KT) & Innovation(STX) Interview

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IEG_Ghost
Profile Joined March 2013
Korea (South)207 Posts
May 24 2013 16:55 GMT
#1
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
May 24 2013 16:59 GMT
#2
Sick!
Maru, TY, Clem <3
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 24 2013 17:00 GMT
#3
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years
AdministratorBreak the chains
looknohands119
Profile Joined March 2010
United States815 Posts
May 24 2013 17:00 GMT
#4
Wow, having Flash being the prosecuter against you would be scary as hell. Strategy is an important part of winning a trial too.
"The kingdom of the heavens is buried treasure. Would you sell yourself to buy the one you've found?" - Jon Foreman ('Your Love Is Strong' - Spring EP)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 24 2013 17:01 GMT
#5
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years

it feels longer only because of the time difference between his first title and second.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#6
That was nice, thanks
Refer to my post.
P_e_X
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany43 Posts
May 24 2013 17:03 GMT
#7
terran love <3 so cute
awwwww shiiiiieeet :3
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
May 24 2013 17:07 GMT
#8
Could Innovation be any more humble? Refreshing change of pace.
STX Fighting!
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
May 24 2013 17:15 GMT
#9
Flash has been around for seven years?

Oh man. What a guy.
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Volskies
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia41 Posts
May 24 2013 17:19 GMT
#10
Yeah Flash, this dude can do anything he wants in life if he puts his mind to it.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
May 24 2013 17:27 GMT
#11
On May 25 2013 02:00 looknohands119 wrote:
Wow, having Flash being the prosecuter against you would be scary as hell. Strategy is an important part of winning a trial too.



100% conviction rate
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3374 Posts
May 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#12
Great interview, thank you for sharing it.
Innovation seems so modest while Flash seems more serious about everything.
Horang2 fan
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 24 2013 17:29 GMT
#13
On May 25 2013 02:15 Draconicfire wrote:
Flash has been around for seven years?

Oh man. What a guy.


Well, he started playing the game in 2006, but IIRC it wasn't until 2007 that he actually joined a pro team, took 4th place in Daum OSL and went on to become the youngest ever champion the next year, winning Bacchus OSL at the age of 15.

Young Ho Hwaiting~~
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
May 24 2013 17:31 GMT
#14
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 24 2013 17:32 GMT
#15
woah, Flash as a prosecutor, scary
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 24 2013 17:34 GMT
#16
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
May 24 2013 17:35 GMT
#17
Most of the answers are pretty much "I'll work hard to become better". Nothing really interesting.
Rescawen
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland1028 Posts
May 24 2013 17:35 GMT
#18
So if Flash is god, but innovation is the perfect human ( like khan from star trek, but way better) who has reached god level. Since his called innovation it symbolizes science so he has engineered himself to become like god. Now they are friends.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#19
On May 25 2013 02:27 c0sm0naut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:00 looknohands119 wrote:
Wow, having Flash being the prosecuter against you would be scary as hell. Strategy is an important part of winning a trial too.



100% conviction rate


I was thinking that, the criminals in South Korea wouldn't stand a chance!

Cool to see them both enjoying their rivalry but also respecting each other, both of them are fantastic players and although I hope Flash pulls ahead soon, I'll always enjoy watching them. Both of them fighting!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
May 24 2013 17:45 GMT
#20
haha the trophies and medals behind flash. KT house too strong
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
May 24 2013 17:46 GMT
#21
Flash the man!
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 24 2013 17:48 GMT
#22
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
May 24 2013 17:49 GMT
#23
this is sooooo fucking cheesy ^^

i love it
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 24 2013 17:51 GMT
#24
On May 25 2013 02:48 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.

Of course. It's only insane because Flash is still several years younger than most other BW veterans
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
May 24 2013 18:01 GMT
#25
Thanks Ghost. Nice interviews with two awesome players.
Flash | Mvp
dFallDeMoN
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom25 Posts
May 24 2013 18:02 GMT
#26
really nice! good job flash and innovation!
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
May 24 2013 18:03 GMT
#27
God's prosecutor or Prosecuting God sounds like an interesting nickname for flash.

i'm eager to see the next games between these two
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
May 24 2013 18:05 GMT
#28
On May 25 2013 03:03 anatase wrote:
God's prosecutor or Prosecuting God sounds like an interesting nickname for flash.

i'm eager to see the next games between these two


The cheese prosecutor
The ultimate prosecutor
The prosecutor weapon.

Oh man they all sound cool.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 18:07:16
May 24 2013 18:06 GMT
#29
On May 25 2013 02:48 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.

But none of them ( except flash ) who still win tournaments..
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 18:07:49
May 24 2013 18:07 GMT
#30
On May 25 2013 02:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)

his play was actually fairly solid. that fact that he cheesed bisu out of the daum osl gave him his cheese reputation, but all good players throw in cheese now and again.

Oh, and he started his progaming career in 2007. perhaps he was a practice partner prior.
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria923 Posts
May 24 2013 18:12 GMT
#31
Cool interview, I still hope soulkey wins GSL but it was nice to see Innovation who I did not know well.
Livin' this life like it was written.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
May 24 2013 18:13 GMT
#32
On May 25 2013 03:07 rift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)

his play was actually fairly solid. that fact that he cheesed bisu out of the daum osl gave him his cheese reputation, but all good players throw in cheese now and again.

Oh, and he started his progaming career in 2007. perhaps he was a practice partner prior.

He never played bw until 06 right?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 24 2013 18:13 GMT
#33
On May 25 2013 03:06 xgtx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.

But none of them ( except flash ) who still win tournaments..


What do you understand by "who still win tournaments"? In SC2? Because FlaSh hasn't won a legit SC2 tournament, in fact the only Kespa players to have managed that are RorO and Sun, RorO being the "oldest" in terms of BW activity, having played his first televised match in early 2008. Regardless who wins between Bogus and Soulkey, RorO will still hold that "title", if you will.

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 18:15:29
May 24 2013 18:15 GMT
#34
On May 25 2013 03:13 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 03:07 rift wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)

his play was actually fairly solid. that fact that he cheesed bisu out of the daum osl gave him his cheese reputation, but all good players throw in cheese now and again.

Oh, and he started his progaming career in 2007. perhaps he was a practice partner prior.

He never played bw until 06 right?


2006 is when he started as an amateur, can't really remember when he won Courage, but he was drafted in 2007.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Diaresta
Profile Joined February 2012
United States597 Posts
May 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#35
'Dat KT trophy room.

Flash and Innovation leading the Kespa Terrans
@Diaresta Huk//Jaedong//Taeja ★EGTL★ ♥Stephano♥ | "Agent 3154, welcome back."
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
May 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#36
Well. I found the interviews to be very nice. Humble and obviously hard working guys

Innovation is right as well, I think he's absolutely right that he has to prove that he is more than a "fluke". Don't get me wrong. he has shown next level play basicly throughout gsl and proleague, and I feel like he is the best player in the world right now, but if he doesn't win either GSL or Proleague, he might, JUST MIGHT drop off like some of the other next level players we've seen before. Rain rings a bell here for me - even though he didn't play nearly as good as innovation, but eh. He kinda dropped off basicly after MVP got him in GSL.
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
May 24 2013 18:38 GMT
#37
2 gods among mere mortals....

sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18407 Posts
May 24 2013 19:02 GMT
#38
On May 25 2013 03:18 BarneyNapalm wrote:
Well. I found the interviews to be very nice. Humble and obviously hard working guys

Innovation is right as well, I think he's absolutely right that he has to prove that he is more than a "fluke". Don't get me wrong. he has shown next level play basicly throughout gsl and proleague, and I feel like he is the best player in the world right now, but if he doesn't win either GSL or Proleague, he might, JUST MIGHT drop off like some of the other next level players we've seen before. Rain rings a bell here for me - even though he didn't play nearly as good as innovation, but eh. He kinda dropped off basicly after MVP got him in GSL.


Rain won a OSL vs ESF players, what more do you want lol.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 19:13:46
May 24 2013 19:07 GMT
#39
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
May 24 2013 19:08 GMT
#40
Objection! I need you to become the greatest sc2 player flash!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 19:11:26
May 24 2013 19:11 GMT
#41
Flash used to be Cheddar Terran, then it became
[image loading]
WriterXiao8~~
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 24 2013 19:22 GMT
#42
cool interview!

i'm just gonna predict that Flash will never win a Korean sc2 tournament.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
BarneyNapalm
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark370 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 19:35:23
May 24 2013 19:28 GMT
#43
On May 25 2013 04:02 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 03:18 BarneyNapalm wrote:
Well. I found the interviews to be very nice. Humble and obviously hard working guys

Innovation is right as well, I think he's absolutely right that he has to prove that he is more than a "fluke". Don't get me wrong. he has shown next level play basicly throughout gsl and proleague, and I feel like he is the best player in the world right now, but if he doesn't win either GSL or Proleague, he might, JUST MIGHT drop off like some of the other next level players we've seen before. Rain rings a bell here for me - even though he didn't play nearly as good as innovation, but eh. He kinda dropped off basicly after MVP got him in GSL.


Rain won a OSL vs ESF players, what more do you want lol.


Actually forgot that. Even watched the finals lol. I don't rate OSL nearly as high as GSL though.

Edit: Rain MIGHT be a bad example, I still feel like he has fallen off from the insane hype he received at first. But I don't feel like he really produced that big badass season/result really.
So I would still argue that Innovation has to bring home a GSL/Proleague trophy in this season.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
May 24 2013 19:28 GMT
#44
Phoenix WrightFlash: Ace Attorney!
T P Z sagi
Pazuzu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States632 Posts
May 24 2013 19:33 GMT
#45
On May 25 2013 03:05 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 03:03 anatase wrote:
God's prosecutor or Prosecuting God sounds like an interesting nickname for flash.

i'm eager to see the next games between these two


The cheese prosecutor
The ultimate prosecutor
The prosecutor weapon.

Oh man they all sound cool.


I lost it at prosecutor weapon haha that sounds like some level 4 limit break from Final Fantasy VII
"It is because intuition is sometimes right, that we don't know what to do with it"
largehadroncollider
Profile Joined May 2013
United States88 Posts
May 24 2013 19:43 GMT
#46
On May 25 2013 02:35 Garnet wrote:
Most of the answers are pretty much "I'll work hard to become better". Nothing really interesting.


Still worth hearing it from the man who flushed out Symbol from GSL. Nice Azubu tag btw.
still alive
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
May 24 2013 19:53 GMT
#47
On May 25 2013 04:22 Schelim wrote:
cool interview!

i'm just gonna predict that Flash will never win a Korean sc2 tournament.


lol

you are craaaazzzzyyy, but i like the extremness
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 24 2013 19:55 GMT
#48
On May 25 2013 04:22 Schelim wrote:
cool interview!

i'm just gonna predict that Flash will never win a Korean sc2 tournament.


I find this very amusing coming from someone with Bomber in his signature.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 24 2013 20:03 GMT
#49
The amount of training flash is able to endure is unreal, it is only a matter of time to win something.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
forumtext
Profile Joined September 2011
575 Posts
May 24 2013 20:04 GMT
#50
On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA


Watched this Live. It was a great game.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 24 2013 20:14 GMT
#51
On May 25 2013 04:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 04:22 Schelim wrote:
cool interview!

i'm just gonna predict that Flash will never win a Korean sc2 tournament.


I find this very amusing coming from someone with Bomber in his signature.

winning championships is not the only reason one can be a fan of someone

feel free to quote me if Flash wins a Korean tournament though. i'm more than willing to eat my words.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
May 24 2013 20:40 GMT
#52
After watching this interview, I wanna see Flash prosecuting and the jury making noise with those claping sticks at each of his move while the defender sweat heavily. It would be streamed obviously.

Quick, someone contact the ministry of Justice in Korea !
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 24 2013 21:21 GMT
#53
On May 25 2013 03:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 03:13 rauk wrote:
On May 25 2013 03:07 rift wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)

his play was actually fairly solid. that fact that he cheesed bisu out of the daum osl gave him his cheese reputation, but all good players throw in cheese now and again.

Oh, and he started his progaming career in 2007. perhaps he was a practice partner prior.

He never played bw until 06 right?


2006 is when he started as an amateur, can't really remember when he won Courage, but he was drafted in 2007.

AFAIR Jangbi beat Flash in 2005 courage, it was before Flash promise to his parents about going into progaming (the whole 1 year or never deal). Seems like 2006.


Stork[gm]
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 24 2013 21:51 GMT
#54
Caught this on youtube, really awesome interviews.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
May 24 2013 22:51 GMT
#55
Yes thanks a lot for making this interview

<3 Flash and Bogus, I hope more terrans in PL shape up and learn from those two, I'd really like to see less games with Protosses. Terran is always a nice race to watch, even in mirrors.
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
May 24 2013 23:09 GMT
#56
man, this kt museum needs more reach wallpapers or even wax figures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

on topic, great interview :D
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 23:32:54
May 24 2013 23:32 GMT
#57
Awesome interview!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Firebee
Profile Joined April 2013
Netherlands11 Posts
May 24 2013 23:55 GMT
#58
Very nice! Both are awesome.
Soulkey, Losira, Leenock, Flash, MarineKing, ByuN, Bisu, sOs
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 00:03:34
May 24 2013 23:59 GMT
#59
Little Monster
Ultimate Weapon
Terminator Terran
God
The Prosecutor?

<3 Flash

On May 25 2013 04:22 Schelim wrote:
i'm just gonna predict that Flash will never win a Korean sc2 tournament.

Blizz seriously needs to buff oracles
Yhamm is the god of predictions
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 25 2013 00:12 GMT
#60
On May 25 2013 03:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 03:06 xgtx wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.

But none of them ( except flash ) who still win tournaments..


What do you understand by "who still win tournaments"? In SC2? Because FlaSh hasn't won a legit SC2 tournament, in fact the only Kespa players to have managed that are RorO and Sun, RorO being the "oldest" in terms of BW activity, having played his first televised match in early 2008. Regardless who wins between Bogus and Soulkey, RorO will still hold that "title", if you will.


sOs won the asian qualifer tournament
Soo won the mlg invitational.


xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
May 25 2013 00:28 GMT
#61
On May 25 2013 05:04 forumtext wrote:
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On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA


Watched this Live. It was a great game.


why do they always show that thing like in that video at 1:14?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 25 2013 04:12 GMT
#62
On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA

pretty smart play by Flash using the refinery so that his SCVs mined out the minerals without having to return back to the base to deposit them. He broke through the minerals right as Bisu scouted it so perfect timing inline with what Innovation said that is Flash's strength.

Thanks for video! Nice to see they respect each other as well. Hope Innovation takes this final although I would feel sorry for SK lol.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 25 2013 04:52 GMT
#63
On May 25 2013 09:28 xgtx wrote:
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On May 25 2013 05:04 forumtext wrote:
On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA


Watched this Live. It was a great game.


why do they always show that thing like in that video at 1:14?


its because of use map settings.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Revangale
Profile Joined February 2012
United States7 Posts
May 25 2013 05:20 GMT
#64
Flash as a prosecutor

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1f0kw4/just_put_this_together_judgment_day_judge_jury/

GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 25 2013 05:38 GMT
#65
On May 25 2013 06:21 bgx wrote:
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On May 25 2013 03:15 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 03:13 rauk wrote:
On May 25 2013 03:07 rift wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:34 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?


He started off fairly cheesy before settling for his trademark 14CC.

Also

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Double_Armory_(vs._Protoss)

his play was actually fairly solid. that fact that he cheesed bisu out of the daum osl gave him his cheese reputation, but all good players throw in cheese now and again.

Oh, and he started his progaming career in 2007. perhaps he was a practice partner prior.

He never played bw until 06 right?


2006 is when he started as an amateur, can't really remember when he won Courage, but he was drafted in 2007.

AFAIR Jangbi beat Flash in 2005 courage, it was before Flash promise to his parents about going into progaming (the whole 1 year or never deal). Seems like 2006.




Pretty sure that he made it through on his first try.
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PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 06:05:29
May 25 2013 05:55 GMT
#66
On May 25 2013 05:04 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA


Watched this Live. It was a great game.

The roars, the cheers, still gives me the chills.

E: Someone shoop flash on an Ace Attorney screencap.
The heart's eternal vow
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
May 25 2013 07:21 GMT
#67
KT's trophy room was the best part of that video. <3
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3598 Posts
May 25 2013 07:47 GMT
#68
dat pachelbel
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 07:59:30
May 25 2013 07:59 GMT
#69
Aw, how could anyone dislike these two players!! They are both so passionate and not at all disrespectful there. Two favorite Terrans, for sure.

Also, thank you very much for the video. Much appreciated!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 25 2013 08:00 GMT
#70
On May 25 2013 14:20 Revangale wrote:
Flash as a prosecutor

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1f0kw4/just_put_this_together_judgment_day_judge_jury/



haha nice work on the photoshop.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 25 2013 09:51 GMT
#71
On May 25 2013 09:12 LighT. wrote:
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On May 25 2013 03:13 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 25 2013 03:06 xgtx wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:48 StarStruck wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:00 Zealously wrote:
It's insane that Flash has already been in the business for seven years


A lot of the Brood War guys have though. :/ I could name a lot of '06 players who still play today too.

But none of them ( except flash ) who still win tournaments..


What do you understand by "who still win tournaments"? In SC2? Because FlaSh hasn't won a legit SC2 tournament, in fact the only Kespa players to have managed that are RorO and Sun, RorO being the "oldest" in terms of BW activity, having played his first televised match in early 2008. Regardless who wins between Bogus and Soulkey, RorO will still hold that "title", if you will.


sOs won the asian qualifer tournament
Soo won the mlg invitational.




Neither of which, you will note, are a GSL or an OSL or even an MLG regular season. Which why I specified "legit SC2 tournament".

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
May 25 2013 20:21 GMT
#72
I just realized that Innovation is 19 and younger than Flash. Damn.
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anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
May 25 2013 22:48 GMT
#73
Watching this Bisu vs Flash game just remembered me of how enjoyable bugs were in SCBW. So enjoyable that they used them for maps, like passing through the mineral by stackings probes

bleh I loved all of that.
Revangale
Profile Joined February 2012
United States7 Posts
May 25 2013 23:52 GMT
#74
On May 25 2013 17:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 14:20 Revangale wrote:
Flash as a prosecutor

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1f0kw4/just_put_this_together_judgment_day_judge_jury/



haha nice work on the photoshop.
[image loading]






Thanks
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
May 26 2013 06:56 GMT
#75
On May 25 2013 05:04 forumtext wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 04:07 EpiK wrote:
On May 25 2013 02:31 Foxxan wrote:
how was flash gameplay in broodwar the first few years, i have no remember at all from that period
The first time he won a big tournament, how was his gameplay?

I remember he was cheesy as hell and had good micro. He didn't really shine in any particular match-up. I remember one particular game against bisu on Monty Hall where he proxy rax rushed and got through the mineral line to bisu's base by mining and putting it in a refinery. It was a very cute game.
Here's the vod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDNMvEVtInA


Watched this Live. It was a great game.


watched it live as in on stream? Or watched it live as in you were the white guy at 2:35 ? If that latter, I was sitting a couple seats behind you
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