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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-22 23:35:37
May 22 2013 22:45 GMT
#1
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Hello TeamLiquid! I am here to announce the release of the new Team oGaming! This involves the new logo you see above, as well as this new roster and a new website that should be released in a week or two!

If you haven't heard of oGaming before, we started out in 2003 as a Brood War team, and had players from around the globe with the tag oG). In StarCraft 2 we returned after a 3 year hiatus, and came back with a few of our original members. If you wish to learn more about us from the dawn of our SC2 team, head over to our Liquipedia page.

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Our first leave from our Professional roster had Kevin "FlatLine" Van one of the more analytical guys on the roster leaving the team. With him. Phil "ScrubbleS" Cortinas also had left, and the two went off to look for another team together. Lastly, our good friend imbaASfuts had also left the team, going to Team .SCA in search of new opportunities. We wish them all best of luck in their endeavors.

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We have taken in quite a few new players, because a few went inactive or just can't dedicate as much time to the game. Early May, American Terran player Jesse "(Wiki)RuFF" Hall had joined the ranks of oGaming. RuFF does consistently well in MLG Open Brackets as well as doing very well in local LANs. You can find his stream over on TwitchTV. Protoss player Richard "(Wiki)Eifer" Gayler joined the ranks as well. He was on 4NOT before the Quantic merger, and is a very skilled player with achievements such as getting to Round 2 of the group play in the MLG 2012 Summer Championships.

We also had 3 more acquisitions in the form of Zerg players from across the globe. We had Romanian Zerg player Andrei "DeathAngel" Nodea join the Pro Team roster. Also joining him as Zerg recruits are the British Paul "JonnyREcco" Whyte (formerly of Team Dignitas) and the Korean Hyun "DeParture" Sung Min (formerly of Fnatic). These 3 have many notable achievements in their respective regions such as a 3rd place finish for DeathAngel at IeSF 2011, a Ro8 finish in TSL4 for JREcco and a 2nd place finish in the Auction All-Kill OSL non-KeSPa Preliminaries for DeParture.

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Dalton "ToXSiK" McMullen
Andrei "DeathAngel" Nodea
Hyun "DeParture" Sung Min
Paul "JonnyREcco" Whyte
Fredrik "Traveller" Söderström
William "TOP" Lee
Jiseong "Irony" Lee
Jesse "RuFF" Hall
Richard "Eifer" Gayler
Hikaru "kurOa" Koike
Links to twitter pages, as applicable

We hope that you support our new roster, and welcome them to the oGaming family!
You can find more info about Team oGaming on:
Twitter: @TeamoGaming
Facebook: Team oGaming
Website (Soon™)

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Ourk
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom298 Posts
May 22 2013 22:49 GMT
#2
gratz paul is a sick pickup really talented zerg
Phamut
Profile Joined June 2011
36 Posts
May 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#3
jonnyrecco best uk zerg wish him and the team all the best! good luck
dFallDeMoN
Profile Joined May 2013
United Kingdom25 Posts
May 22 2013 22:50 GMT
#4
Good pick up! jrecco is really really good player! grtz
partydude89
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1850 Posts
May 22 2013 22:52 GMT
#5
wow! nice! good to see good players finding a good team!
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Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
May 22 2013 22:57 GMT
#6

Andrei "DeathAngel" Nodea


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371282
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
May 22 2013 23:00 GMT
#7
Thought Ruff retired. Hm.
Refer to my post.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 22 2013 23:03 GMT
#8
wow, those are some pretty significant pickups, hope you can afford them! Didn't know DeParture was still playing competitively, I haven't seen him play a qualifier in ages. JonnyREcco is a pretty big talent, I thought Fnatic was somewhat interested in picking him up, I guess I was wrong, or you made a better offer ^^ DeathAngel got pretty close to qualifying for EU Challenger so he's quite a good pickup as well.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 22 2013 23:05 GMT
#9
On May 23 2013 08:03 mikkmagro wrote:
wow, those are some pretty significant pickups, hope you can afford them! Didn't know DeParture was still playing competitively, I haven't seen him play a qualifier in ages. JonnyREcco is a pretty big talent, I thought Fnatic was somewhat interested in picking him up, I guess I was wrong, or you made a better offer ^^ DeathAngel got pretty close to qualifying for EU Challenger so he's quite a good pickup as well.


Once upon a time DA was 1 match away from qualifying for code A too. Lost 0-2 to Center once and another Korean terran the other time IIRC
MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
May 22 2013 23:05 GMT
#10
Yeaaah, hard to take a team seriously when it has DeathAngel in it.
kilokilo23
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
May 22 2013 23:08 GMT
#11
For all the DeathAngel comments i get what people are saying but he deserves a second chance a lot of players got that second chance why deathangel cant idk.
Bibbit
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada5377 Posts
May 22 2013 23:09 GMT
#12
I think the team will have to carefully consider whether or not the skill of Deathangel is worth the anti-fans that come with him. A lot of people aren't going to be so quick to forgive the whole Veralynn thing.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
May 22 2013 23:11 GMT
#13
On May 23 2013 08:08 kilokilo23 wrote:
For all the DeathAngel comments i get what people are saying but he deserves a second chance a lot of players got that second chance why deathangel cant idk.


Not saying he doesn't "deserve" a second chance, but people shouldn't forget hence the friendly reminder.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 22 2013 23:14 GMT
#14
On May 23 2013 08:09 Bibbit wrote:
I think the team will have to carefully consider whether or not the skill of Deathangel is worth the anti-fans that come with him. A lot of people aren't going to be so quick to forgive the whole Veralynn thing.


He was really underrated, although it certainly doesn't help that he suffered the trope of "talented but not yet accomplished foreign pro waiting to break out" etc. Hopefully he'll perform well and not cause any more issues.

I'm a bit more interested in seeing DeParture play though, and how he fares against foreigners.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
May 22 2013 23:17 GMT
#15
oh damn nice.. except death angel of course, but meh, TT1 used to be a known hacker but look at him now, maybe we can give DeathAngel another chance
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
imEnex
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada500 Posts
May 22 2013 23:42 GMT
#16
Eifer gogo!!
Program yourself to Success
Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
May 22 2013 23:48 GMT
#17
Grats to JR!

I rather Deathangel over RuFF anyday.
That person is possibly the most skilled BM all in player since Believe.
kilokilo23
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
May 22 2013 23:50 GMT
#18
On May 23 2013 08:48 SoOJuuu wrote:
Grats to JR!

I rather Deathangel over RuFF anyday.
That person is possibly the most skilled BM all in player since Believe.

who is BM? ruff or deathangel?
soiii
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany266 Posts
May 22 2013 23:52 GMT
#19
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 22 2013 23:55 GMT
#20
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#21
PS: According to Liquipedia Traveller retired from SC2 to focus on Dota 2?
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
HenRays
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia5 Posts
May 23 2013 00:00 GMT
#22
Sick City!
kilokilo23
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States85 Posts
May 23 2013 00:07 GMT
#23
On May 23 2013 09:00 mikkmagro wrote:
PS: According to Liquipedia Traveller retired from SC2 to focus on Dota 2?

He got bored of dota 2 so came back to his old team before he went to focus on dota.
BabyToss!
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Czech Republic588 Posts
May 23 2013 00:09 GMT
#24
Best of luck, guys... although I liked the old logo more, honestly!
Nowadays a Filthy Casual | Follow your dreams |
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 23 2013 00:13 GMT
#25
On May 23 2013 08:55 ZenithM wrote:
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.


poor infrastructure and not much practice partners available for him on dignitas, not a whole lot of competitions in his region to play against korean caliber players (during that time period), fell in love with broodlord/infestors a little too much

)))____◎◎◎◎█████
TheTrueKerry
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada34 Posts
May 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#26
On May 23 2013 08:52 soiii wrote:
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.


Or it shows an "everyone deserves a second chance" attitude by the management, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think a team looking to improve should have a positive attitude rather than a negative one.
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
May 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#27
Picking up Deathangel is a pretty desperate move. Cant see that working out advantageously.
Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
May 23 2013 00:24 GMT
#28
On May 23 2013 09:14 OGHalcyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:52 soiii wrote:
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.


Or it shows an "everyone deserves a second chance" attitude by the management, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think a team looking to improve should have a positive attitude rather than a negative one.



Yeah, but this was literally 6 months ago at most, he scammed people out of money and actually really did hurt the scene. Far worse than someone just maphacking on ladder (which is also fucking terrible). Gotta understand why people might dislike the fact that you've picked him up despite his being a blight on the scene.
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
Nooborghini
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada136 Posts
May 23 2013 00:26 GMT
#29
Let's go Eifer!!! !!! :D
<3
grats on the pickup
"So we're undefeated today vs everything else (T and P). But the games were ling all ins... and... DesRow twice (Protoss Player)." Greggers - Twitch.Tv/Nooborghini - Twitter/NuBrGNi
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
May 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#30
So Deathangel is over all forgiven now?
"Right on" - Morrow
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
May 23 2013 00:27 GMT
#31
is that legit deathangel? ??????
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 23 2013 00:28 GMT
#32
jonnyrecco and deathangel, awesome team LOL
i dont know whats wrong with some teams nowadays
why not invite them to the quantic dota2 team?
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
May 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#33
If Dragon and TT1 can be allowed to join teams without comments why shouldn't DeathAngel?
Red and yellow are all I see
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 23 2013 00:38 GMT
#34
Huh, I had thought Eifer wasn't trying to be competitive anymore, guess I was wrong.

Grats on the pickups, looks pretty good!
TheTrueKerry
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada34 Posts
May 23 2013 00:52 GMT
#35
On May 23 2013 09:24 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:14 OGHalcyon wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:52 soiii wrote:
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.


Or it shows an "everyone deserves a second chance" attitude by the management, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think a team looking to improve should have a positive attitude rather than a negative one.



Yeah, but this was literally 6 months ago at most, he scammed people out of money and actually really did hurt the scene. Far worse than someone just maphacking on ladder (which is also fucking terrible). Gotta understand why people might dislike the fact that you've picked him up despite his being a blight on the scene.


I understand entirely, but what better way to redeem yourself than starting fresh with a "young" team and trying to right what was wronged. I have to believe that if he didn't care about what happened that he wouldn't have returned to the scene. I think he is trying to do the right thing, but only time will tell.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
May 23 2013 00:55 GMT
#36
On May 23 2013 09:38 _SpiRaL_ wrote:
If Dragon and TT1 can be allowed to join teams without comments why shouldn't DeathAngel?


They've been commented plenty on lol. Deathangel did far worse than simply maphacking, he scammed people out of money and this incident was also much closer in recent memory (mid 2012) than both TT1 and Dragon (2008, during BW and 2010 respectively).
In Inca we trust
Mellon
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden917 Posts
May 23 2013 02:02 GMT
#37
Jesus get over the veralynn/deathangel already... I think it's ridicoulus how unforgiving this community is, he didn't make a massive crime, sorry. If he does it again, it's a pattern and he shouldn't be allowed, but doing something once shouldn't be bannable for life. You guys seriously think it's reasonable with the "one strike and you're out" attitude?

I tried maphacking in wc3 for maybe 10-20 games or so (even faced Grubby before he got famous and lost 0-2!!), back in RoC. Blizzard found it and i got temp banned. That was in 2002, should i be allowed to ever play competetively (if i had the skill) or has that cursed my entire e-sport career?

I obviously hate cheating and would never do it today, but people do things they regret, and why not give him a last chance? With your attitude/mindset Artosis wouldn't be a caster, he would be banned from e-sports. I find it sad and im appalled at how eager people are to judge and cast out people. Just hoping you don't have this attitude in real life.
Traveller
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden21 Posts
May 23 2013 02:21 GMT
#38
On May 23 2013 09:00 mikkmagro wrote:
PS: According to Liquipedia Traveller retired from SC2 to focus on Dota 2?

I only took a rather lengthy(2 month) break from SC2, right before HOTS was launched, where i played quite a bit of DotA 2. I never quit to aim for a DotA 2 career =) I don't know who edited the page =/
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 02:40:04
May 23 2013 02:38 GMT
#39
On May 23 2013 11:02 Mellon wrote:
Jesus get over the veralynn/deathangel already... I think it's ridicoulus how unforgiving this community is, he didn't make a massive crime, sorry. If he does it again, it's a pattern and he shouldn't be allowed, but doing something once shouldn't be bannable for life. You guys seriously think it's reasonable with the "one strike and you're out" attitude?

I tried maphacking in wc3 for maybe 10-20 games or so (even faced Grubby before he got famous and lost 0-2!!), back in RoC. Blizzard found it and i got temp banned. That was in 2002, should i be allowed to ever play competetively (if i had the skill) or has that cursed my entire e-sport career?

I obviously hate cheating and would never do it today, but people do things they regret, and why not give him a last chance? With your attitude/mindset Artosis wouldn't be a caster, he would be banned from e-sports. I find it sad and im appalled at how eager people are to judge and cast out people. Just hoping you don't have this attitude in real life.


I think you should be allowed to compete and move on. But you reap what you sow. If you now have an overly negative stigma following you then too bad. The community will eventually lighten up on him probably, but the fact that people are still upset is what it is, a natural order of things.
"Right on" - Morrow
TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
May 23 2013 02:51 GMT
#40
Awesome news for oGaming can't wait to see how things improve having these guys on the team!
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Freezer_au
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Australia1461 Posts
May 23 2013 02:56 GMT
#41
On May 23 2013 08:52 soiii wrote:
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.



Thank you for bringing this up We did expect there to be some anger from the community with us acquiring DeathAngel. But rest assured that we did discuss this internally at length, and were well aware of his recent scandal with VeraLynn. We believe that Andrei was in the wrong, and do not in any way condone his actions. However we do believe that he deserves another chance to redeem himself, and are prepared to offer him a life line.
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
May 23 2013 02:57 GMT
#42
Is RuFF the same player that made the top 10 move of all time or something in sc/bw with the clever wall off in lost temple against TapotoKopele ?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
May 23 2013 05:13 GMT
#43
Eifer hellz yeah! Glad he made it on a team, he's so good!
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Zennith
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States795 Posts
May 23 2013 05:20 GMT
#44
On May 23 2013 11:02 Mellon wrote:
Jesus get over the veralynn/deathangel already... I think it's ridicoulus how unforgiving this community is, he didn't make a massive crime, sorry. If he does it again, it's a pattern and he shouldn't be allowed, but doing something once shouldn't be bannable for life. You guys seriously think it's reasonable with the "one strike and you're out" attitude?

I tried maphacking in wc3 for maybe 10-20 games or so (even faced Grubby before he got famous and lost 0-2!!), back in RoC. Blizzard found it and i got temp banned. That was in 2002, should i be allowed to ever play competetively (if i had the skill) or has that cursed my entire e-sport career?

I obviously hate cheating and would never do it today, but people do things they regret, and why not give him a last chance? With your attitude/mindset Artosis wouldn't be a caster, he would be banned from e-sports. I find it sad and im appalled at how eager people are to judge and cast out people. Just hoping you don't have this attitude in real life.



He cheated people out of money... how is that not a big deal to you?
Sentinel Gaming Competitive Team Manager | 1500+ points Masters Zerg | twitch.tv/zennith6
azMaverick
Profile Joined June 2011
United States66 Posts
May 23 2013 06:00 GMT
#45
You guys need to put the death angel bashing to rest. What happened happened. Its time to move on. on that note i am so glad to call Team Ogaming home! There are some great pick ups and i can't wait to practice with them and learn from these high level players! oGFighting!
Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 23 2013 08:13 GMT
#46
I can't believe people even cared about this DeathAngel/Veralynn thing in the first place.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 10:16:55
May 23 2013 10:14 GMT
#47
On May 23 2013 14:20 Zennith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 11:02 Mellon wrote:
Jesus get over the veralynn/deathangel already... I think it's ridicoulus how unforgiving this community is, he didn't make a massive crime, sorry. If he does it again, it's a pattern and he shouldn't be allowed, but doing something once shouldn't be bannable for life. You guys seriously think it's reasonable with the "one strike and you're out" attitude?

I tried maphacking in wc3 for maybe 10-20 games or so (even faced Grubby before he got famous and lost 0-2!!), back in RoC. Blizzard found it and i got temp banned. That was in 2002, should i be allowed to ever play competetively (if i had the skill) or has that cursed my entire e-sport career?

I obviously hate cheating and would never do it today, but people do things they regret, and why not give him a last chance? With your attitude/mindset Artosis wouldn't be a caster, he would be banned from e-sports. I find it sad and im appalled at how eager people are to judge and cast out people. Just hoping you don't have this attitude in real life.



He cheated people out of money... how is that not a big deal to you?


Didn't MajOr also smurf in a SEA tournament that he was expressly not allowed to compete in?

Your spite will fortunately not change the fact that he was given a second chance, no matter how big of a deal you make of this.

I also love how you're trying to spread misinformation by using language like "cheated" as if the games he played were illegitimate.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 23 2013 10:24 GMT
#48
On May 23 2013 08:55 ZenithM wrote:
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.


Because he was the biggest patchze *gunshot*

But seriously, if he can prove himself with this new team then he'll shake that motif, but until then, he'll always be known as that.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 23 2013 10:26 GMT
#49
On May 23 2013 19:24 Nekovivie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:55 ZenithM wrote:
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.


Because he was the biggest patchze *gunshot*

But seriously, if he can prove himself with this new team then he'll shake that motif, but until then, he'll always be known as that.

Dude, he recently beat ForGG and won some HotS tournament. -_-
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33492 Posts
May 23 2013 10:29 GMT
#50
can I make a bad analogy/ask a bad analogy question?

if a KR pro got caught playing for an NA pro in some minor tournaments or showmatches with some cheap change/hardware on the line, how much of a fuck would we give?
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 23 2013 10:37 GMT
#51
On May 23 2013 19:29 Waxangel wrote:
can I make a bad analogy/ask a bad analogy question?

if a KR pro got caught playing for an NA pro in some minor tournaments or showmatches with some cheap change/hardware on the line, how much of a fuck would we give?


Whatever drama would come with that would probably pass in a handful of days. But you see Waxangel, realizing the futility and irrelevance of squabbling over petty events in the past would imply some semblance of intellectual effort put into one's post, and it seems like some posters aren't willing to bother. ._.
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
May 23 2013 10:39 GMT
#52
On May 23 2013 19:26 RPR_Tempest wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:24 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:55 ZenithM wrote:
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.


Because he was the biggest patchze *gunshot*

But seriously, if he can prove himself with this new team then he'll shake that motif, but until then, he'll always be known as that.

Dude, he recently beat ForGG and won some HotS tournament. -_-


Couldn't have been anything noteworthy. Nobody cared enough to update the Liquipedia on it.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 23 2013 10:44 GMT
#53
On May 23 2013 19:39 Nekovivie wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:26 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:24 Nekovivie wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:55 ZenithM wrote:
I still remember when JRecco popped up into the scene and was one of the most up-and-coming Zerg rising talent. He looked top Korean caliber and suddenly he looked like another foreigner, and I never really understood why
Looking forward to sick performances from him once again.


Because he was the biggest patchze *gunshot*

But seriously, if he can prove himself with this new team then he'll shake that motif, but until then, he'll always be known as that.

Dude, he recently beat ForGG and won some HotS tournament. -_-


Couldn't have been anything noteworthy. Nobody cared enough to update the Liquipedia on it.


He must be referring to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 I guess, which was a couple of months ago, but JREcco only got Top 8.

Looking at Aligulac, which is a more complete database than TLPD or Liquipedia when it comes to tournaments and games, I really can't see anything he's actually won recently, not even an online tournament. :/
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 23 2013 10:54 GMT
#54
Honestly DA hasn't done anything to make me think he has any remorse.

I'm not going to be actively negative against this team but picking up DA means I am not going to support it in anyway or watch anything the team or its player's are part of
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Bonkerz
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States831 Posts
May 23 2013 18:21 GMT
#55
On May 23 2013 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Honestly DA hasn't done anything to make me think he has any remorse.

I'm not going to be actively negative against this team but picking up DA means I am not going to support it in anyway or watch anything the team or its player's are part of

So in other words, your going to be actively negative against the team?
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myRZeth
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1047 Posts
May 23 2013 18:23 GMT
#56
On May 23 2013 08:50 kilokilo23 wrote:
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On May 23 2013 08:48 SoOJuuu wrote:
Grats to JR!

I rather Deathangel over RuFF anyday.
That person is possibly the most skilled BM all in player since Believe.

who is BM? ruff or deathangel?


both have their big flaws
TheTrueKerry
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada34 Posts
May 23 2013 21:45 GMT
#57
On May 24 2013 03:21 Bonkerz wrote:
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On May 23 2013 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Honestly DA hasn't done anything to make me think he has any remorse.

I'm not going to be actively negative against this team but picking up DA means I am not going to support it in anyway or watch anything the team or its player's are part of

So in other words, your going to be actively negative against the team?


This has me curious now, what would you consider to be "actively negative" KelsierSC? Would you DDOS our streamers? Or maybe spam our forums? Infiltrate our b.net channel disguised as someone else and then when the time was right, you'd execute your evil plan? I know, I know, you'd find out where we live and punch us in the face right?
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 23 2013 21:51 GMT
#58
On May 24 2013 06:45 OGHalcyon wrote:
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On May 24 2013 03:21 Bonkerz wrote:
On May 23 2013 19:54 KelsierSC wrote:
Honestly DA hasn't done anything to make me think he has any remorse.

I'm not going to be actively negative against this team but picking up DA means I am not going to support it in anyway or watch anything the team or its player's are part of

So in other words, your going to be actively negative against the team?


This has me curious now, what would you consider to be "actively negative" KelsierSC? Would you DDOS our streamers? Or maybe spam our forums? Infiltrate our b.net channel disguised as someone else and then when the time was right, you'd execute your evil plan? I know, I know, you'd find out where we live and punch us in the face right?


Honestly someone who is so petty and pathetic as to be bothered by a progaming team that they probably never heard of signing a player that they don't like (even though they don't know him very well) doesn't deserve your attention.

I mean seriously, how empty and devoid of substance must someone's life be for him to become distraught by something like this? How does this affect you in any way, shape or form Kelsier?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 23 2013 21:51 GMT
#59
On May 24 2013 03:23 myRZeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 08:50 kilokilo23 wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:48 SoOJuuu wrote:
Grats to JR!

I rather Deathangel over RuFF anyday.
That person is possibly the most skilled BM all in player since Believe.

who is BM? ruff or deathangel?


both have their big flaws

i dont know ruff but deathangel and jonnyrecco are both terrible persons
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WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-23 23:38:08
May 23 2013 21:59 GMT
#60
On May 23 2013 19:29 Waxangel wrote:
can I make a bad analogy/ask a bad analogy question?

if a KR pro got caught playing for an NA pro in some minor tournaments or showmatches with some cheap change/hardware on the line, how much of a fuck would we give?

I personally would :/ id get pissed off but id give them another chance after a few months to redeem him/her self
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haphazaRdSC
Profile Joined August 2012
United States7 Posts
May 24 2013 08:01 GMT
#61
Glad to see the A team pick up a bunch of great players! I was beginning to get worried the academy would have to start taking over. :D
bGr.MetHiX
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria511 Posts
May 24 2013 08:10 GMT
#62
On May 23 2013 07:57 Harrad wrote:
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Andrei "DeathAngel" Nodea


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=371282



you show up to this thread just to leave this link about deathangel so we can bash him? i just hate dramaqueens like you who are in it for the bashing. good job,dude,good job. your contribution to esports is awesome.
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dog8
Profile Joined August 2012
80 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 03:33:13
May 25 2013 01:50 GMT
#63

MasterOfPuppets Romania. WROTE

He must be referring to http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ESET_UK_Masters_2013/Season_1 I guess, which was a couple of months ago, but JREcco only got Top 8.




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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 25 2013 01:58 GMT
#64
On May 23 2013 19:29 Waxangel wrote:
can I make a bad analogy/ask a bad analogy question?

if a KR pro got caught playing for an NA pro in some minor tournaments or showmatches with some cheap change/hardware on the line, how much of a fuck would we give?


That already happened with MajOr.

Took a very long time before people got over his negative reputation.
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MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
May 25 2013 02:08 GMT
#65
On May 23 2013 09:52 OGHalcyon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2013 09:24 Zennith wrote:
On May 23 2013 09:14 OGHalcyon wrote:
On May 23 2013 08:52 soiii wrote:
Good luck with the new team but signing DeathAngel either shows no knowlege of his fraud history or at least a dont-care-attitude in the management.


Or it shows an "everyone deserves a second chance" attitude by the management, I don't see anything wrong with that. I think a team looking to improve should have a positive attitude rather than a negative one.



Yeah, but this was literally 6 months ago at most, he scammed people out of money and actually really did hurt the scene. Far worse than someone just maphacking on ladder (which is also fucking terrible). Gotta understand why people might dislike the fact that you've picked him up despite his being a blight on the scene.


I understand entirely, but what better way to redeem yourself than starting fresh with a "young" team and trying to right what was wronged. I have to believe that if he didn't care about what happened that he wouldn't have returned to the scene. I think he is trying to do the right thing, but only time will tell.


There's no "redeeming" when it's about frauding the community. Hell, even hackers, something that is less impactful, just completely screw up the trust people have in them.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 25 2013 02:23 GMT
#66
Not to get take away from the DeathAngel bashing which I believe is completely warranted and oGaming deserves to be shamed for picking him up, but this roster is a very odd mix of lower tier players and smaller names.

DeParture being a benchwarmer Korean player living in Canada now.
KurOra, a Japanese player and an old member of a Korean clan who posts thousands of tweets and hardly plays anymore.
Ruff, who's an older cheesier American player with a reputation for cheesy play.
JohnnyREcho who has a lot of stigma being a British "patchzerg" despite showing he still has chops in HOTS.

I just don't know what oGaming wants from their players or what they plan to do with them. Do they have some goal or are they just gathering as many names as they can?
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NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
May 25 2013 02:48 GMT
#67
On May 25 2013 11:23 Gamegene wrote:
Not to get take away from the DeathAngel bashing which I believe is completely warranted and oGaming deserves to be shamed for picking him up, but this roster is a very odd mix of lower tier players and smaller names.

DeParture being a benchwarmer Korean player living in Canada now.
KurOra, a Japanese player and an old member of a Korean clan who posts thousands of tweets and hardly plays anymore.
Ruff, who's an older cheesier American player with a reputation for cheesy play.
JohnnyREcho who has a lot of stigma being a British "patchzerg" despite showing he still has chops in HOTS.

I just don't know what oGaming wants from their players or what they plan to do with them. Do they have some goal or are they just gathering as many names as they can?

I think this is a little unnecessary..

While it is just a thread about their roster, I don't think your question of what they want from their players makes any sense. Clearly they want to become a better team and you'd be an idiot to think they haven't accomplished this, even if in the slightest, by picking up some semi-accomplished players. It's clear they might not have done a thorough background check, or cared about the pasts of certain players, but you can't deny its a serious upgrade from what they had before.

To ask about goals and plans is stupid, and of course they are gathering names, that's what teams do.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 25 2013 03:04 GMT
#68
With the exception of JohnnyREcho, all of these players are older and are severely limited on their ability to improve and perform due to school or lack of interest.

What are they actually going to do with these guys? Are they just going to treat them like Koreans on NA teams in the past and just throw money at different corners of the globe until the players leaves or the team disbands?
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 25 2013 10:08 GMT
#69
On May 25 2013 11:48 NrG.NeverExpo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 11:23 Gamegene wrote:
Not to get take away from the DeathAngel bashing which I believe is completely warranted and oGaming deserves to be shamed for picking him up, but this roster is a very odd mix of lower tier players and smaller names.

DeParture being a benchwarmer Korean player living in Canada now.
KurOra, a Japanese player and an old member of a Korean clan who posts thousands of tweets and hardly plays anymore.
Ruff, who's an older cheesier American player with a reputation for cheesy play.
JohnnyREcho who has a lot of stigma being a British "patchzerg" despite showing he still has chops in HOTS.

I just don't know what oGaming wants from their players or what they plan to do with them. Do they have some goal or are they just gathering as many names as they can?

I think this is a little unnecessary..


Not as unnecessary as people who don't know how to move on from ultimately irrelevant events in the past, and more thought-provoking than that circle-jerk, for sure....

Gamegene brings up a fair point.
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Sabre
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1086 Posts
May 25 2013 10:20 GMT
#70
jonnyrecco's play vs SjoW yesterday in the ESET showmatch does still suggest he is hungry to be one of the best
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TheTrueKerry
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada34 Posts
May 25 2013 11:26 GMT
#71
Fact - If Team oGaming picking up DA was really that upsetting, shameful, disgusting, disgraceful, etc. it would be the top post in r/starcraft right now where they especially love eSports drama. It's not.

The masses have spoken, move along.
Chloroplaste
Profile Joined February 2011
France281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 11:45:04
May 25 2013 11:44 GMT
#72
The clan name sound really disturbing, it's the same name as the multigaming french website and structure Ogaming.TV, which are non other than the organisator of Iron Squid ! (and Tales of the Lane on League of legend). It's also known as Alt Tab Productions or Pomf & Thud crew ^^
It's a french webTV up all evening 7/7 on all the best video games with some thousands viewers every days.
They already hosted english show with Soe too in Paris.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 25 2013 11:49 GMT
#73
^

On May 23 2013 07:45 Master of DalK wrote:

If you haven't heard of oGaming before, we started out in 2003 as a Brood War team, and had players from around the globe with the tag oG).


Just saying.
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