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[Aligulac May 15 list] ForGGeddon averted, for now - Page 2

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Koesader
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands424 Posts
May 16 2013 15:13 GMT
#21
On May 16 2013 23:56 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 23:42 StarVe wrote:
The real foreigner list, by popular demand.

  1. de TLO
  2. se Naniwa
  3. ca Scarlett
  4. nl Grubby
  5. ca HuK
  6. ua White-Ra
  7. se ThorZaIN
  8. uk Demuslim
  9. us IdrA
  10. de TLO
  11. kr Dragon


Trust me, guys, it's totally based on some numbers.

Sad to see Destiny out of the top 10.

Doesn't have CombatEX either. He took a game off PartinG !
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 16 2013 15:15 GMT
#22
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?

Jim is the best player from China that won the last G League and some other chinese things and is apparently at the top of the Korean ladder. He coasted into qualifying for WCS AM and will be playing against Oz in the Challenger division today. TLO is #12 on the foreigner only list behind Nerchio at 11. He's been on the rise in HoTS and will probably make the top 10 soon if he keeps winning.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 15:29:01
May 16 2013 15:28 GMT
#23
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


TLO isn't there because he's not playing well enough to be there. But hey, the fact that you don't know who Jim is says a lot about your understanding of who is good in the SC2 scene... FYI Jim is better than TLO
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Noradrenaline
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia41 Posts
May 16 2013 15:42 GMT
#24
On May 17 2013 00:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


TLO isn't there because he's not playing well enough to be there. But hey, the fact that you don't know who Jim is says a lot about your understanding of who is good in the SC2 scene... FYI Jim is better than TLO


Be honest, you only knew of Jim a week ago.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 16 2013 15:46 GMT
#25
On May 17 2013 00:42 Noradrenaline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


TLO isn't there because he's not playing well enough to be there. But hey, the fact that you don't know who Jim is says a lot about your understanding of who is good in the SC2 scene... FYI Jim is better than TLO


Be honest, you only knew of Jim a week ago.


Nope, I've heard of him and watched some of his games even as far back as 2011, but nice assumption.
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OlDan
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria36 Posts
May 16 2013 15:53 GMT
#26
Dude, this is amazing work, thank you!
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
May 16 2013 16:16 GMT
#27
On May 17 2013 00:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


TLO isn't there because he's not playing well enough to be there. But hey, the fact that you don't know who Jim is says a lot about your understanding of who is good in the SC2 scene... FYI Jim is better than TLO


Jim is better than TLO overall with significance p ≈ 0.349.
Jim is better than TLO versus Protoss with significance p ≈ 0.329.
Jim is better than TLO versus Terran with significance p ≈ 0.473.
Jim is better than TLO versus Zerg with significance p ≈ 0.352.

Low p-values denote higher significance. Usually you ought to require at least p < 0.05 before making claims.


Source
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
May 16 2013 16:21 GMT
#28
ForGG needs to win soem stuff so I can watch his play more :3
The universe created an audience for itself.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
May 16 2013 17:18 GMT
#29
On May 16 2013 23:42 StarVe wrote:
The real foreigner list, by popular demand.

  1. de TLO
  2. se Naniwa
  3. ca Scarlett
  4. nl Grubby
  5. ca HuK
  6. ua White-Ra
  7. se ThorZaIN
  8. uk Demuslim
  9. us IdrA
  10. de TLO
  11. kr Dragon


Trust me, guys, it's totally based on some numbers.


IdrA not on top 5? Bullshit!
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
May 16 2013 17:37 GMT
#30
On May 17 2013 01:16 TumNarDok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 00:28 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


TLO isn't there because he's not playing well enough to be there. But hey, the fact that you don't know who Jim is says a lot about your understanding of who is good in the SC2 scene... FYI Jim is better than TLO


Jim is better than TLO overall with significance p ≈ 0.349.
Jim is better than TLO versus Protoss with significance p ≈ 0.329.
Jim is better than TLO versus Terran with significance p ≈ 0.473.
Jim is better than TLO versus Zerg with significance p ≈ 0.352.

Low p-values denote higher significance. Usually you ought to require at least p < 0.05 before making claims.


Source


I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say he wasn't basing that claim off their Aligulac rankings.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 17:41:42
May 16 2013 17:41 GMT
#31
Welmu aside, I think the foreigner list looks pretty spot on based off recent results. Demuslim and suppy might fit in more than some but idk.

Oh and TL(YOL)O of course.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
May 16 2013 17:47 GMT
#32
On May 16 2013 23:42 StarVe wrote:
The real foreigner list, by popular demand.

  1. de TLO
  2. se Naniwa
  3. ca Scarlett
  4. nl Grubby
  5. ca HuK
  6. ua White-Ra
  7. se ThorZaIN
  8. uk Demuslim
  9. us IdrA
  10. de TLO
  11. kr Dragon


Trust me, guys, it's totally based on some numbers.

Needs more Stephano :-P
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
May 16 2013 18:02 GMT
#33
I applaud the effort and hope this improves in the future. For now though it has pretty huge gaps, the most obvious one the fact that Bogus, probably the best player in the world and surely Top 3, is not even in the Top 10.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
May 16 2013 18:06 GMT
#34
On May 17 2013 03:02 THM wrote:
I applaud the effort and hope this improves in the future. For now though it has pretty huge gaps, the most obvious one the fact that Bogus, probably the best player in the world and surely Top 3, is not even in the Top 10.

Actually, we have mainly seen the strength of his TvZ. There is a rather large gap in the rating of his vZ and his vT and vP which needs to be diminished before he hits top 3. I am not disagreeing with you, I too think he is a top 3 player for sure. :-) He just needs to keep playing as he does and then he surely will hit top 3
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 19:08:54
May 16 2013 19:07 GMT
#35
On May 17 2013 00:13 Big-t wrote:
Why is TLO not on the list and who is jim?


In my own Elolist he is higher up:

1. Lucifron
2. Kas
3. Naniwa
4. TLO
5. Happy
...

Also based on math and stuff.

Before Nanis bad games yesterday of corse.
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Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
May 16 2013 19:27 GMT
#36
How can you put Zotac equivalent with WCS on the pts system for Polt lol and how are WCS Kr equivalent to WCS EU and AM t.t
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
May 16 2013 19:38 GMT
#37
On May 17 2013 04:27 Hitch-22 wrote:
How can you put Zotac equivalent with WCS on the pts system for Polt lol and how are WCS Kr equivalent to WCS EU and AM t.t

Hint : Because the game remains the same.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 19:49:03
May 16 2013 19:44 GMT
#38
On May 16 2013 23:04 DifuntO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2013 22:57 synd wrote:
The foreigner list looks extremely bullshit


Why do you say that? It seems fine to me.

Maybe Welmu shouldn't be there but other than that i don't see anything crazy.


Welmu is easily top5 european protosses currently

EDIT: What am I trying to say, easily top3
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
May 16 2013 19:57 GMT
#39
Wow, that first graph is one of the most interesting I've seen. Cool.
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 16 2013 20:02 GMT
#40
On May 17 2013 04:27 Hitch-22 wrote:
How can you put Zotac equivalent with WCS on the pts system for Polt lol and how are WCS Kr equivalent to WCS EU and AM t.t


It doesn't make any difference in the Korea vs Foreignerbattle. It would just mean, that the Koreans would be more volatile and I don't see why that would be a good thing. Weighting online vs liveevents makes more sense maybe, because onlineeents aren't as indicative of skill, so less points should be awarded. But it probably wouldn't change the list too much.
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