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j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 20:03:49
May 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#41
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 20:07:03
May 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#42
On May 17 2013 04:27 Hitch-22 wrote:
How can you put Zotac equivalent with WCS on the pts system for Polt lol and how are WCS Kr equivalent to WCS EU and AM t.t

I hope you realize that opponent skill level is taken into consideration. WCS KR, EU and AM are certainly not equivalent, because different people play there.

That is to say, you get fewer points for beating up on newbs. But it doesn't matter if you beat up a newb in the GSL or in a ZOTAC cup.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
May 16 2013 20:17 GMT
#43
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He just wins every time (well, a lot of times).

Better skill to have than to impress you, nah ? :D
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 16 2013 20:22 GMT
#44
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed

http://aligulac.com/players/50/results/?race=ptzr&nats=all&bo=all&offline=both&game=HotS
In these games, LucifroN is 68–31 (69%) in games and 41–16 (72%) in matches.

I think he is decent

Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 16 2013 20:35 GMT
#45
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed

Some of the greatest Starcraft players of all time have been boring but insanely solid. With the results Luci is putting out, he's dispelling the doubt in his abilities. Unimpressive or not, he wins more often than not and that's what counts.
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Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 16 2013 20:37 GMT
#46
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.
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edwahn
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 20:44:55
May 16 2013 20:44 GMT
#47
Hi, I'm not sure if it's a bug or if it's me misunderstanding the feature, but if you look at Flash, his ranking for vT are different for his general section and career high section, even though they are the same points.

6th is the correct number, as far as I can tell by sorting the current ranking list by vT.

Standings:

General 1793 ± 116 (#6) 171/255 (67%)
vP 1784 ± 194 (#8) 67/100 (67%)
vT 1834 ± 201 (#7) 45/65 (69%)
vZ 1762 ± 190 (#13) 59/90 (66%)
Career highs:

General 1793 ± 123 (#6) May 29, 2013
vP 1784 ± 202 (#8) May 29, 2013
vT 1834 ± 209 (#6) May 29, 2013
vZ 1762 ± 198 (#13) May 29, 2013

edit: bolded relevant sections
edwahn
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand121 Posts
May 16 2013 20:54 GMT
#48
On May 17 2013 05:37 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.


11th best player in the world??? Filter aligulac for HoTS, vs Koreans only for Lucifron and stare at a completely underwhelming 48% game wins. There a lot more than 11 GSL/Proleague players who have a higher win rate than that against even stronger opponents...

In the interest of aligulac, I say the community votes for a criminally overrated/underrated player each, and host a BO9 showmatch. I would say Lucifron vs Zest - rating 1935 (best against P in the world) vs 1129

Even if Zest loses 5-3, there'd be a points transfer from Luci->Zest
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 16 2013 21:00 GMT
#49
On May 17 2013 05:54 edwahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 05:37 Greenei wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.


11th best player in the world??? Filter aligulac for HoTS, vs Koreans only for Lucifron and stare at a completely underwhelming 48% game wins. There a lot more than 11 GSL/Proleague players who have a higher win rate than that against even stronger opponents...

In the interest of aligulac, I say the community votes for a criminally overrated/underrated player each, and host a BO9 showmatch. I would say Lucifron vs Zest - rating 1935 (best against P in the world) vs 1129

Even if Zest loses 5-3, there'd be a points transfer from Luci->Zest

Good luck getting Zest to play showmatches. :p
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 16 2013 21:07 GMT
#50
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..


Then you're not watching (closely) enough.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 21:47:09
May 16 2013 21:19 GMT
#51
On May 17 2013 05:44 edwahn wrote:
Hi, I'm not sure if it's a bug or if it's me misunderstanding the feature, but if you look at Flash, his ranking for vT are different for his general section and career high section, even though they are the same points.

6th is the correct number, as far as I can tell by sorting the current ranking list by vT.

Standings:

General 1793 ± 116 (#6) 171/255 (67%)
vP 1784 ± 194 (#8) 67/100 (67%)
vT 1834 ± 201 (#7) 45/65 (69%)
vZ 1762 ± 190 (#13) 59/90 (66%)
Career highs:

General 1793 ± 123 (#6) May 29, 2013
vP 1784 ± 202 (#8) May 29, 2013
vT 1834 ± 209 (#6) May 29, 2013
vZ 1762 ± 198 (#13) May 29, 2013

edit: bolded relevant sections

When he originally reached it, he was the 6th best vT'er in the list.
His vT hasn't changed, but someone elses has, so his vT is now only #7.
Hope that made sense. Try finding the ranking of the new list, sort for vT and it should be clear.

Edit: Guess it was a bug after all. I thought I was smart for a second :-(
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 21:40:25
May 16 2013 21:38 GMT
#52
On May 17 2013 05:44 edwahn wrote:
Hi, I'm not sure if it's a bug or if it's me misunderstanding the feature, but if you look at Flash, his ranking for vT are different for his general section and career high section, even though they are the same points.

Thanks. Fixed it. Not exactly sure what was wrong, but I fixed it.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 17 2013 07:44 GMT
#53
As always, we could use more volunteers.
PM me or TheBB here or @sc2aligulac on twitter
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 17 2013 08:17 GMT
#54
I guess we have to just wait for the MLG Spring championship. I feel the foreigner korean point transfer graph is gonna get bend hard upwards :D.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 10:11:33
May 17 2013 10:05 GMT
#55
On May 17 2013 17:17 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
I guess we have to just wait for the MLG Spring championship. I feel the foreigner korean point transfer graph is gonna get bend hard upwards :D.

WCS season finals as well I guess.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 17 2013 16:59 GMT
#56
On May 17 2013 05:54 edwahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 05:37 Greenei wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.


11th best player in the world??? Filter aligulac for HoTS, vs Koreans only for Lucifron and stare at a completely underwhelming 48% game wins. There a lot more than 11 GSL/Proleague players who have a higher win rate than that against even stronger opponents...

In the interest of aligulac, I say the community votes for a criminally overrated/underrated player each, and host a BO9 showmatch. I would say Lucifron vs Zest - rating 1935 (best against P in the world) vs 1129

Even if Zest loses 5-3, there'd be a points transfer from Luci->Zest


Recent results are much more important then some 3 year old statistics. And Luci has a ridiculus winrate in the last 20 games or so. I definately think that he has Code S quality at the moment.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
edwahn
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand121 Posts
May 17 2013 23:09 GMT
#57
On May 18 2013 01:59 Greenei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 05:54 edwahn wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:37 Greenei wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.


11th best player in the world??? Filter aligulac for HoTS, vs Koreans only for Lucifron and stare at a completely underwhelming 48% game wins. There a lot more than 11 GSL/Proleague players who have a higher win rate than that against even stronger opponents...

In the interest of aligulac, I say the community votes for a criminally overrated/underrated player each, and host a BO9 showmatch. I would say Lucifron vs Zest - rating 1935 (best against P in the world) vs 1129

Even if Zest loses 5-3, there'd be a points transfer from Luci->Zest


Recent results are much more important then some 3 year old statistics. And Luci has a ridiculus winrate in the last 20 games or so. I definately think that he has Code S quality at the moment.


Yep, I agree him being code S quality, but just not top 11 code S
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
May 18 2013 09:33 GMT
#58
On May 18 2013 08:09 edwahn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 01:59 Greenei wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:54 edwahn wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:37 Greenei wrote:
On May 17 2013 05:03 j4vz wrote:
Ive never seen anything good from Lucifron, even if he took out mvp 2-0 today..

I mean I feel like he is way overrated, everytime i watch him, im not impressed


He is surely a little overrated in this list. But even if you mix the foreigner and korean pool mathematically, you can't really kick him out of the top20. I have him at rank 11 for example.


11th best player in the world??? Filter aligulac for HoTS, vs Koreans only for Lucifron and stare at a completely underwhelming 48% game wins. There a lot more than 11 GSL/Proleague players who have a higher win rate than that against even stronger opponents...

In the interest of aligulac, I say the community votes for a criminally overrated/underrated player each, and host a BO9 showmatch. I would say Lucifron vs Zest - rating 1935 (best against P in the world) vs 1129

Even if Zest loses 5-3, there'd be a points transfer from Luci->Zest


Recent results are much more important then some 3 year old statistics. And Luci has a ridiculus winrate in the last 20 games or so. I definately think that he has Code S quality at the moment.


Yep, I agree him being code S quality, but just not top 11 code S

If he gets to WCS season finals and gets spanked, he'll drop in points. If not, then I guess he belongs where he is
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
kckkryptonite
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1126 Posts
May 18 2013 09:56 GMT
#59
Wow, when Lucifron is over Flash and Parting the ratings can't be very credible.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
May 18 2013 10:13 GMT
#60
On May 18 2013 18:56 kckkryptonite wrote:
Wow, when Lucifron is over Flash and Parting the ratings can't be very credible.


Wow when a poster has no idea what they're talking about their message can't be very credible.
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