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What's in the future for EG?

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33347 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-07 08:37:47
May 16 2013 04:07 GMT
#1
Dedicated to my dear friend Michal Blicharz.

IdrA's gone. Stephano will be gone as well. So, what's in the future for Team Evil Geniuses?

Well, they're going to have a lot of money come August. IdrA's contract is already off the books, minus some rent payments, and Stephano has announced his retirement for August 15th (assuming he signed a one-year contract, his contract ends around then anyway).

In additional, they'll probably save some money on HuK in one way or another. HuK's EG signing was announced on August 17th of 2011, and he re-signed with EG in August of 2012, which tells us he has a 1 year contract. While we don't know if EG intends to let him walk or re-sign him at a lower rate (considering his form over the last year, a reduction seems inevitable), but in any case it's not hard to assume he'll be taking up less of their money this August.

So, why is August important? Avid Brood War fans will probably have guessed by now: KeSPA contracts end and free agency begins in August-September, at the end of the Proleague season. That's right, EG could make a run at another marquee KeSPA player.

KeSPA has always been super secretive about contracts, and any information we know about contract amounts and lengths is typically from Korean news articles stating unspecific sources.

The most lucrative potential target is SKT's (P)PartinG. OSEN reported (English translation) that his current contract with SKT is only until September, the end of the Proleague season. OSEN reports a salary of around $65,000 for the nine months, which should be easy for EG to cover with money coming off the books.

Besides PartinG, the only player who has both the skill and marketing value to be worth a large salary for EG is probably KT's (T)Flash. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem too likely that he'll be free any time soon. The last time he was supposedly going to be a "free agent," it was revealed that KT Rolster already gave him an extension the previous year, in anticipation of free agency. At his current pace, it's hard to see KT Rolster ever letting him out of their grasp.

Still, we don't know who will be available come August, and who will be considered the best, or most entertaining player in the world. There are two WCS Season left until then, and a LOT can happen in that time.

The real question here is whether or not KeSPA will let one of their marquee guys leave. The Association did loan out Jaedong to EG last November (Korean media refers to it as a loan, though EG doesn't seem to care about disputing this discrepancy) but that was all part of a larger plan to bring in EG-TL into the Proleague, appeal to a western audience, and get some salary relief for their internally funded 8th Team.

The Jaedong free agency debacle of 2009 taught us that KeSPA is more than willing to implement arbitrary rules to make sure top teams keep their top stars when it suits them. The rules did change to be more reasonable as a result of the Jaedong controversy, but don't think for a second that the idea of an ace level player leaving wouldn't make them come up with enough red tape to package an elephant.

While there's slim pickings in terms of star power, EG will definitely have the funds to pick up skillful, solid StarCraft II players should they decide they want to continue in Proleague (with or without TL). Revival, aLive, and Oz are bandaids, and they're showing nowhere near the skill of players you want to rely on as your core. But if it's cheap, pure talent they want, EG might as well pick off players on ESF teams instead of going after KeSPA free agents.

Speaking of eSF, there's them and foreign players to think about outside KeSPA. But that's a year round opportunity as opposed to having a particular season. After the PuMa fiasco in 2011, EG's approach toward picking up eSF players seems to have become more cautious, due to fear of harming their relationship with various Korean entities (GomTV is the chair of eSF, after all). But in the end, one can only make so much of an argument about EG being the "bad guy" if they are offering talented players the money they deserve.

As of now, it seems like (Z)Life is the only player they'd need that IdrA/Stephano/HuK/whatever money to acquire. Rumors are that Red Bull is very keen on keeping their logo on their little superstar, so it may take quite the bid to pry him away. Of the foreigners, (Z)DIMAGA is the only notable, teamless player who stands out, and perhaps he could become EG's next target depending on his performance at WCS Europe. It's hard to speculate too much about the foreign scene, considering Evil Geniuses already has Suppy and NaNiwa (on their Alliance brand), and we'll have to wait and see who receives acclaim at WCS EU/AM.

On a final note, there are a lot of other considerations for EG as well. The Alliance brand needs expanding, they need to think about what do with Jaedong in November, and they need to think about whether or not they have the stomach for another season of Proleague. Not only that, but they sponsor players in multiple other games as well, and the cash could be redistributed in that direction. But in any case, they are losing two of their biggest StarCraft II stars, and they have the need and the money to replace them.


TL;DR: Flip a coin. Heads: EG.PartinG.RC. Tails: EG.Life.RC. Lucfron loses regardless of result.
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ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
May 16 2013 04:11 GMT
#2
i'd vomit if Life joined eg
BestFriends
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
May 16 2013 04:12 GMT
#3
My only fear is that eg will move away from sc2 foreign scene leaving all the sc2 money in proleague koreans.
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holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#4
What about someone like (T)INnoVation?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#5
I think a lot also depends on the performance of their LoL and DOTA2 teams. If they do well at TI3 and the second half of LCS/Season 3 finals they will definitely command a far larger salary.
13JackaL
Profile Joined March 2011
United States577 Posts
May 16 2013 04:15 GMT
#6
I doubt they would move too far from the foreign scene. Some of their most lovable players are foreigners, and they are typically easier to advertise with.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
May 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#7
Marineking has a lot of twitter followers, just saying... :p
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
May 16 2013 04:19 GMT
#8
On May 16 2013 13:15 holy_war wrote:
What about someone like (T)INnoVation?

why do you want him to never win anything, ever?
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Kommatiazo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States579 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 04:21:08
May 16 2013 04:19 GMT
#9
I am really looking forward to how the EG tale develops this year. A lot of interesting plot twists so far with players leaving and mysterious second divisions popping up.

Great article Wax. I feel like there's more potential for EG to pick up Kespa players than you let on though.

I don't think they'd shy away from shopping around for some "core" level players that maybe think they're worth more than they're getting and might do with a bit of western team exposure. Besides, if I was a player on a Kespa team, fighting to become the Ace of my team under players like Roro, Flash, Innovation, Rain, Parting, etc., etc., landing a contract that really isn't even that generous but puts me on EG sounds like a great way to have a spectacular breakout. Opportunities outside of Korea would be far more available, fanbases would expand, (assuming EG stays in PL) it might also be a great opportunity to become this season's punching bag of a team's new hotshot Ace ready to save the day and win the hearts of all the fangirls.

I want them to sign at least 4 new players this year. Under Alliance or EG. And they HAVE to stay in Proleague. Right?
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 04:22:52
May 16 2013 04:20 GMT
#10
NSH & Prime players could be viable options for EG to look into depending on what happens to the teams(seeing as they are probably the 2 weakest teams financially)
I really do hope they stay in Proleague.
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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 04:23:28
May 16 2013 04:20 GMT
#11
In terms of getting a good skill to money ratio, I would think some of the Woongjin players should be looked at. They are dominating proleague and have two GSL semi finalists.

Also, SKT have too many protoss players so perhaps Best would be available.
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
May 16 2013 04:23 GMT
#12
I think it comes down to whether or not they plan to continue to participate in proleague. If they stay for another season with proleague then they have to pick up a few solid Koreans, if they drop proleague then they simply just have to find a marketable foreigner. My guess is that they stop doing proleague and pick 1 or 2 people that did very well in WCS AM/EU.
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
May 16 2013 04:24 GMT
#13
EG buys Team 8
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
May 16 2013 04:26 GMT
#14
I find it ridiculous that only PartinG and Flash are named for KeSPA.

What about RorO, Hydra, ZerO, sOs, INnoVation, Soulkey, free, Flying, Argo, Trap, Cure, Rain, FanTaSy, Zest, Stats...
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bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 16 2013 04:27 GMT
#15
If they were looking for cheap talent, a lot of ESF players would only be too happy to actually have some more stable incoming. Prime and NSHS players would be super easy to poach, which is pretty sad for both tiny teams.

In addition, any team with money is probably keeping a close eye on the new WCS leagues with all these new kids coming through. Cheap acquisitions with potential can be both risky and profitable.

That said, it'll depend on their overall strategy. They could intend to sure up their SPL team late in the overall league, or they could replace foreign stars with foreign stars. I imagine Stephano and Idra held decent chunks of salary, I wouldn't be surprised if they replace those two with 1 biggun + 4 lower levels.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12385 Posts
May 16 2013 04:28 GMT
#16
I think dimaga agent already has said something exciting is in place for dimaga, but somehow I doubt it's eg.
To be honest, I feel like eg isn't gonna pick up another foreigner, there hasn't been another really solid uprising foreigner recently imo
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 04:30:23
May 16 2013 04:28 GMT
#17
They'll buy one of the Woongjin Stars players. EG.sOs, Flying, or Soulkey. Wasn't Woongjin having some sponsorship issues before the season started? It could be difficult to keep too many high level players on one team. I could even see EG buying out a contract if possible. Would be hard for Woongjin to pass up the money.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 16 2013 04:30 GMT
#18
How much is EG paying you to start a big discussion about them Waxangel?
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 04:37:33
May 16 2013 04:33 GMT
#19
On May 16 2013 13:28 Shellshock1122 wrote:
They'll buy one of the Woongjin Stars players. EG.sOs, Flying, or Soulkey. Wasn't Woongjin having some sponsorship issues before the season started? It could be difficult to keep too many high level players on one team. I could even see EG buying out a contract if possible. Would be hard for Woongjin to pass up the money.


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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
May 16 2013 04:35 GMT
#20
Wouldn't be surprised if they picked of (Z)Goswser
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