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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
May 11 2013 20:22 GMT
#4081
On May 12 2013 05:08 jahre wrote:
Not even kidding he should just go into commentating. Lot of good insight.


that's my thought as well
Venomsflame
Profile Joined February 2011
United States613 Posts
May 11 2013 20:22 GMT
#4082
On May 12 2013 05:21 Demonaz wrote:
Idra seems way more positive now on stream.


What are you all talking about he seems the same as he always does...
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 11 2013 20:23 GMT
#4083
Say whatever you want about Idra, hell I don't like the guy at all, but he is a really good commentator. I love listening to him commentating his games, really good analysis.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
May 11 2013 20:25 GMT
#4084
Best commentator in the biz. Better than anyone who currently does it full time.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
May 11 2013 20:25 GMT
#4085
I couldnt help but notice a interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.

Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
May 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#4086
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice a interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.



Why would anyone get mad over that ? Also in first 172 there were not that many who said so not sure about last 30 pages of this thread. Sure haters are "speaking their mind" but that doesn't disqualify them from being hypocrites with double-standards.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 20:29:54
May 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#4087
On May 12 2013 05:10 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 04:45 Demonaz wrote:
On May 12 2013 04:41 Psychobabas wrote:
Idra streaming with 10k viewers lolz EG.


Just what I was thinking looking at the stream list. Idra just has such an incredible brand and following, must be inundated with offers or could prob get his own sponsors Grubby-style.

I think what he said was really out of line and EG were right to get rid, but still no denying Idra will not be hurt career wise by this. If anything strengthened, since the whole anti-establishment bad boy kinda image is what it is based on


Out of those viewers who is actually in there to watch him win? Who actually leaves adblock off to support him? His stream is 80% trolls and people there only to watch him fail game after game so they can make fun of him and troll him. Viewer numbers don't mean anything. EG might've lost some viewers but you can't have your teammate calling other teammates pieces of shit. His attitude is that of a 16 year old and people are seeing that for what it is. So who does that attract? Other people with the same attitude. That's not a good thing for a majority of them.



I watch IdrA, and I don't troll him.

I think most people that watch his stream are just fans of his play and analysis. The problem is that IdrA's personality attracts a small, but very vocal minority of knucklehead fans — people that want to troll him and EG, or people that are trolls themselves.

InControl said it best. IdrA is so popular that when he does say-or-do something fucked up, it has a much larger impact on the community and EG's image than any other player's opinion. Even if IdrA is 'famous', he's not mature or responsible enough to represent an entire team/business.

MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 11 2013 20:28 GMT
#4088
Yeah he should just be a caster. He's great at casting, he won't play so won't get frustrated, so he won't throw random death threats at random people, then his life will be better. Then he'll become a better player perhaps too :D
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
May 11 2013 20:31 GMT
#4089
He could be a pro and also cast some. He's one of the best casters in the world because he's so cerebral and actually soothing to listen to while casting - and understands the game very well. The thing is, he can basically do whatever he wants especially after all of this. I sometimes wonder if he was asking for them to pull the plug on his deal with them. Some people just really don't want to mess with having a boss.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
May 11 2013 20:37 GMT
#4090
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice aN interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.


They're also speaking their mind at people who speak their mind at the guy who speaks his mind and the fans who also speak their mind.

Duh.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
May 11 2013 20:39 GMT
#4091
On May 12 2013 05:37 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice aN interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.


They're also speaking their mind at people who speak their mind at the guy who speaks his mind and the fans who also speak their mind.

Duh.


ROFL......
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Simsons2
Profile Joined March 2013
Latvia73 Posts
May 11 2013 20:43 GMT
#4092
On May 12 2013 05:37 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice aN interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.


They're also speaking their mind at people who speak their mind at the guy who speaks his mind and the fans who also speak their mind.

Duh.


Thats one hell of a mindfuck.
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
May 11 2013 20:43 GMT
#4093
On May 12 2013 05:31 Maloreon wrote:
He could be a pro and also cast some. He's one of the best casters in the world because he's so cerebral and actually soothing to listen to while casting - and understands the game very well. The thing is, he can basically do whatever he wants especially after all of this. I sometimes wonder if he was asking for them to pull the plug on his deal with them. Some people just really don't want to mess with having a boss.


Hate to break it to ya but he's going to have a boss anywhere he goes. If he commentates it will be tournament owner and if he joins a team it will be the team owner. Finally if he gets a personal sponsor, they will be his boss. No one gives away money without strings attached.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12166 Posts
May 11 2013 20:45 GMT
#4094
On May 12 2013 05:28 MrCon wrote:
Yeah he should just be a caster. He's great at casting, he won't play so won't get frustrated, so he won't throw random death threats at random people, then his life will be better. Then he'll become a better player perhaps too :D


To keep that level of knowledge and analysis needed to be the best caster you have to play. Play a lot.

Watch Nal Ra Old Boy (links to translated videos available on TL). He comments in that about how much more he saw as a commentator after trying to go pro again.

You can be a good caster while being a mediocre or bad player. You can't be the best without being a very good player.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 20:46:51
May 11 2013 20:45 GMT
#4095
He doesn't need a sponsor anyway, he can live on his stream numbers as long as he can make drama so people watch him. Or he could play poker, but I'd guess he would be the guy who'd cry about people playing bad but taking his money :D
"But he never stop raising, it's not fair :" :D

On May 12 2013 05:45 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 05:28 MrCon wrote:
Yeah he should just be a caster. He's great at casting, he won't play so won't get frustrated, so he won't throw random death threats at random people, then his life will be better. Then he'll become a better player perhaps too :D


To keep that level of knowledge and analysis needed to be the best caster you have to play. Play a lot.

Watch Nal Ra Old Boy (links to translated videos available on TL). He comments in that about how much more he saw as a commentator after trying to go pro again.

You can be a good caster while being a mediocre or bad player. You can't be the best without being a very good player.

Yeah that make sense.
Morlock
Profile Joined May 2013
68 Posts
May 11 2013 20:47 GMT
#4096
Judging by his stream...already the kid's attitude is on the up and up.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 11 2013 20:50 GMT
#4097
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice a interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.



The people? more like an entire community. He reminds me of Homer Simpson, being just all nuts, yet everything seems to go his way regardless. Idra kicked out of EG, no problem. He doesn't win for shit, still somehow fan favorite, regardless if he loses or not. He just doesn't give a fuck, and is loved either way.
If Grubby loses, people get pissed at his poor play, clearly unimpressed, if Idra loses, people laugh and have a good time. You cant tell me Idra isn't in a pretty sweet spot
laegoose
Profile Joined June 2010
Russian Federation325 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-11 20:50:36
May 11 2013 20:50 GMT
#4098
MrCon, with his disgust to all-ins IdrA won't be able to beat any decent field in poker.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
May 11 2013 20:57 GMT
#4099
On May 12 2013 05:50 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 05:25 Fjodorov wrote:
I couldnt help but notice a interesting fact. The people who praise idra for being a person who "speaks his mind" are often the same people who get mad when people in this thread speaks their mind about idra.



The people? more like an entire community. He reminds me of Homer Simpson, being just all nuts, yet everything seems to go his way regardless. Idra kicked out of EG, no problem. He doesn't win for shit, still somehow fan favorite, regardless if he loses or not. He just doesn't give a fuck, and is loved either way.
If Grubby loses, people get pissed at his poor play, clearly unimpressed, if Idra loses, people laugh and have a good time. You cant tell me Idra isn't in a pretty sweet spot


problem is when people use "people" to describe two different groups of people who aren't even the same people

see what i did there, people?

ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
May 11 2013 21:00 GMT
#4100
To the people saying IdrA's stream is [arbitrary percentage above 75%] trolls, you can't actually believe that. Greg currently has over 9000 viewers, and you will not convince me that 7000+ of them are just trolls. Open the chat and start counting the trolls, I dare you. There's at most a few hundred trolls in there, and the rest are there to watch him play. Granted some of the people there to watch him play are the same people who slow down to look at a car accident, but to say that his stream is 80% trolls is simply a ludicrous notion.
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