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On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete.
I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained.
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im sure eg gave him warnings, stupid of him to continue his immature bm when his job and salary are on the line.
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On May 11 2013 03:26 SCST wrote:
Lol @ Idra fan's projecting their angst and emotional instability on Demuslim, one of the nicest guys in the entire community.
No doubt jealously is playing some part in this, as Demuslim regularly gets more than double the stream-views that's Idra has been, well before and after Idra went "emo" and started to quit all games versus all players he could not beat on the ladder.
Really enjoyable waking up to see this thread still going strong with the crazies. Lol!
IdrA having less viewers than DeMuslim is a very very recent thing.
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On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained.
Do you want SC2 to become a part of trashy celebrity culture like everything else the fucking media dwells on? Really? We don't have the luxury to do that because we are still working our way into mainstream culture.
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On May 11 2013 03:29 EleanorRIgby wrote:
im sure eg gave him warnings, stupid of him to continue his immature bm when his job and salary are on the line.
He hated his job so...?
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On May 11 2013 03:26 SCST wrote:
Lol @ Idra fan's projecting their angst and emotional instability on Demuslim, one of the nicest guys in the entire community.
No doubt jealously is playing some part in this, as Demuslim regularly gets more than double the stream-views that's Idra has been, well before and after Idra went "emo" and started to quit all games versus all players he could not beat on the ladder.
Really enjoyable waking up to see this thread still going strong with the crazies. Lol!
well demuslim started streamsniping him and playing on his mind. idra just wanted demu to fuck off.
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Can I be perma-banned please. IdrA was SC2 for me 
User was temp banned for this post.
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On May 11 2013 03:26 Noro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:23 knucklez wrote:On May 11 2013 03:15 Noro wrote:On May 11 2013 03:11 jinorazi wrote:
i have a honest question;
people say "eg would be irrelevant if it wasnt for idra"
EGTL is the first foreign team in proleague. A FOREIGN TEAM IN PROLEAGUE. (which too bad idra didnt get to play)
that is biggest news i've ever related to eg or liquid.
2nd news: jaedong in eg.
but no, idra is the shit huh? I agree, I really don't even know many people who have used EG and Idra in the same sentence except to talk about his results lately. When you say EG, i think about Stephano, Thorzain and the really good Korean pick ups that are fighting it out in Proleauge. I also think about Demu getting 10k+ viewers on stream pretty regularily. Tbh, to me Idra hasn't been a relevant part of EG for some time now. wtf r u smoking? Thanks for that powerful response. I must've forgotten about how irrelevant people like Jaedong are and about all those really sick tournament results from Idra. /Sarcasm Literally all Idra has done for a while now is rage quit tourney games, bm the community, and sit at home and lose on ladder. That sounds relevant to you?
in other words idra provided the same kind of entertainment that people loved and encouraged him to do. there's a reason why idra doubles jaedong's stream numbers and it's because people value entertainment more than skill in this industry.
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Sad for Idra. Good luck in the future.
This was bound to happen eventually. In the real world: No results + complete lack of professionalism = fired. Professional starcraft is still the real world.
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On May 11 2013 03:26 FrogOfWar wrote:Indeed. On the one hand, it is obviously a big topic that is worth talking about, on the other this is almost purely arguing and flaming for the sake of arguing and flaming. It doesn't go anywhere. The problem might be that if this was closed, the shitfest would continue in the fanclub thread or somewhere else it doesn't belong.
Also on the other hand, we are getting to see the small circus of irrational, butt-clenching, keyboard-smashing crazy Idra fans come out of the wood-work in droves trying to justify / excuse his behavior.
And it does have some great entertainment value. It's interesting to see who they'll blame next. First it's Alex Garfield for being a "horrible" business owner, then it's the "Idra troll's" fault, now it's "Demuslims fault".
It's almost like a grieving process for these people - they will have eventually have to come to terms with the fact that Idra has something wrong with him, and that Idra is the source of Idra's problems.
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Good riddance. I can't believe that EG kept him around for this long other than for the fact that he was a popular streamer. He's toxic and bad for the community. He will probably retire now and I think the scene will be better for it.
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On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained.
Dude.. tiger, Tyson, kobe, vick have all accomplished a lot in their respective sports. but, idra, in sc2 (don't know about bw) has not done that well... and when you embarrass your company like that you will get fired. kudos to EG.
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I love all you people who are sad about this, Idra has been digging his own grave for YEARS, since bw. Hes been a little twat to numerous people, has NEVER had respect for anything. He hates us and he hates sc2. I hope he never comes back, see you @ dennys Idra.
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Seems like IdrA has hit rock bottom, I doubt he will be playing SC2 for much longer.
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On May 11 2013 03:08 Godwrath wrote:
This thread is reaching twitch levels of stupidity already.
if we're not careful we'll get to gsl vod comment level. those are heinous
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On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained.
haha yes, lets compare the greatests of their respective sports to.......idra.
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On May 11 2013 03:36 MilesCru wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 03:26 Wampaibist wrote:On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot. I can understand releasing him due to poor performance(i don't really follow sports so I dont know about his performance) but kicking him out due to behavior to me shows more of a weakness of the management of EG rather than idra because they could not control him. In classic sports to get kicked off a team or out of the sport for behaviour you have to do some terrible stuff - i.e Mike Tyson had to bite and ear off before they kicked him out of boxing, his rape beef even did nothing. Kobes rape beef also did not stop him, neighter did Vicks dog fighting involvement. Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
p.s despite all Tyson is still my fav athlete. I can't agree more. After Tiger woods incident he lost some sponsors but nike remained. Dude.. tiger, Tyson, kobe, vick have all accomplished a lot in their respective sports. but, idra, in sc2 (don't know about bw) has done that well... and when you embarrass your company like that you will get fired. kudos to EG.
IdrA is the most accomplished foreigner.
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On May 11 2013 03:19 timurStas wrote:
Hello,
What I dont get is why athletes/celebs can behave poorly in public/towards the community yet progamers cannot.
Not the case. He could for ten years.
Idra tells some people to fuck off and hes off the team. To me thats a little crazy.
You might wanna mention that this happened after years and years of incident after incident and his team trying to sort it out with him.
I recommend to everyone to watch yesterday's State of the Game. Incontrol was really devastated, IdrA is his friend and teammate. He likes him a lot, he regrets what happened a lot, and yet he managed to not deny, sugarcoat or trivialize IdrA's bad behavior. Why is it so hard for everybody around here to admit that somebody you like and respect misbehaved? Do you really need the world to be black and white?
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good, its about time hes been making your team look bad for years.
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